Is that Pinocchio or a TV company executive?
Posted on 01/01/2009 5:30:47 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave
Washington, D.C. (December 30, 2008) -- On July 31, 2008, Dish Network issued a press release saying it planned to expand its high-def lineup to 150 channels by year's end. On November 1, 2007, Verizon released a press statement saying it would have 150 HD channels by the end of 2008.
And several times this year, DIRECTV issued press releases saying it would have the capacity to deliver up to 150 national HD channels before the year was over.
So now that the year is over (minus about a day or so), did these top TV providers keep their promises?
Answer: No.
Is that Pinocchio or a TV company executive?
Dish Network offers more than 100 high-def channels, but the satcaster is far short of the magic 150 mark. (And if you don't count some PPV channels, the numbers look even less impressive.) Verizon provides slightly more than 100 HD channels in several markets, but not 150. And DIRECTV says it now has 130 HD channels, although that number is inflated with PPV and other questionable "channels."
(Of course, you can argue that DIRECTV should get a pass here because it said it would have the "capacity" to deliver 150 HD channels; not that it would definitely offer 150 HD channels. Yes, there is a difference.)
Asked today by e-mail why Dish Network fell short, a company spokesman ducked the question by issuing the following statement:
"We had a great year: DISH Network more than doubled its national HD offerings, rolled out the first HD-only programming packages through TurboHD at affordable pricing, had two successful satellite launches, expanded our local HD channel markets and became the first pay-TV provider to offer movies in 1080p," the spokesman said.
Asked again by e-mail to comment specifically on why Dish did not offer 150 HD channels, as promised, the spokesman said he had no further comment.
Verizon FiOS Vice President Terry Denson was asked last July by Multichannel News if his company was standing by its commitment to offer 150 HD channels in 2008.
"A lot has been made of actual channel counts but we don’t obsess over channel counts," Denson said.
Except, of course, when the company wanted to issue a press release saying that it would have 150 HD channels. Then, apparently, Verizon did obsess over channel counts.
Verizon and the satcasters are not the only TV providers to have played fast and loose with channel counts in 2008. For instance, Comcast last February said a "typical" local Comcast system would carry between 50 and 60 HDTV channels by year's end. While the cable operator has recently expanded its high-def lineup in several markets (Chicago subs have more than 80 HD channels now), many Comcast markets are still under the 50 mark.
So, why did the TV providers overpromise? (To put it nicely; lying would be another way to put it.)
In what has become a highly competitive industry, the TV providers are afraid of appearing to offer fewer HD channels than their rivals. High-def viewers want more channels and they will seek out the companies that provide them.
So instead of talking about how many channels they had in July, which happened to be fewer than DIRECTV, Dish Network talked about how many channels it would have by year's end. Likewise, Comcast and Verizon made their HD channel boasts when DIRECTV was rapidly expanding its high-def lineup in early 2008 and late 2007 respectively.
For them, it was easier (and more convenient) to say how many channels they would have -- and then hope that no one would look too closely when they didn't actually produce them.
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Laurencia digs the new monitor and aquarium screensaver.
With the lousy programs that are on, somebody actually worries that they don’t have High Definition?
Speaking of lying, I took a serious look at a 32” Samsung only to find that the case measures a bit over 32” and the wide screen version (which makes people look “stretched” (and fat) measures 27.5”. When it’s adjusted to “normal”, it’s under 24”. What’s the backstory?
I’m happy so long as Teh Intarweb is crystal clear.
Still no HDTV in this household and no real interest in getting it. We visited my wife’s sister & husband over XMAS as usual who are now a 3 HDTV household. Frankly, I don’t see anything warranting the additional cost. My 32” flat screen is only 3 years old. When we bought it, HDTV’s were very expensive. Sure, the prices have dropped, but why should I replace a 3 year old TV? Not gonna happen...
Just when I'm getting comfortable saying "The Internets", The Cool People change it to "Teh Intarweb". I can't keep up.
Cheer up. If I'm using it, it's no longer cool.
Earlier this year, I dropped DirecTV and got cable. Best move I’ve made in years. The cable company has a bunch of HD channels, most of which they also have as an SD channel elsewhere ‘on the dial’, so to speak. I have SD TVs, no HDTVs.
Well, the broadcasters are broadcasting in HD format (either 1920 X 1080 or 1280 X 720) on those HD channels, but they’re broadcasting both HD and SD material. Depending on how you have your HDTV set up, the SD material might appear smaller on the display or stretched out.
But then there is the case of the broadcaster who is showing SD material on their HD channel, so it looks smaller if your HDTV is set up that way, but then along comes a commercial spot that is in HD. So, what you see is an HD formatted picture inside the SD formatted portion of the display.
I’m not sure that makes sense the way I wrote it, but it makes that HD formatted commercial look ‘right’, but much smaller than it should be.
Then again, I don’t have any HDTVs in my house either. I’m not going to buy any until the economy comes out of this tailspin. In fedgov keeps injecting itself and our tax money into the economy, that might be several years.
Ur lolspeak iz rahter gud.....nom nom nom.
For watching football there’s nothing like a large HDTV screen. We watch on a 67” Samsung DLP and it is an experience you can’t get in the stands even in the best seats. A 67” like ours is optimal from no more than 13’ away. Smaller sets like a 47” don’t cut it and with a tiny 32” screen it’s hardly worth it.
Also the food’s better at our house.
Then I'll be over during football season next year. Again, another reason why I have no need to get HDTV when I know a generous person like yourself... :)
Thing is, I only heard it for the first time yesterday, when my daughter corrected me after I used the expression, “The Internets” while trying to be cool.
Our cat would find itself punted across the back yard and over the fence if I caught it doing such a thing to my TV lol.
I hope it doesn’t have claws. :p
Of course our small children are my biggest worry, even with the TV on the wall. I don’t allow any toys that could even possibly be thrown to be in the room with the TV. Some day I just know I’ll get home from work and find them with a step ladder in front of the TV, and the panel will be beautifully colored with a combination of crayons and ink.
I have cable (Comcast) myself. I’ve never seen the need to go the satellite route. Anyway, I’m not sure how you can see what you see on HD channels. They don’t come up on my system. I get the sound, but the screen remains blank. Are you paying for an HD signal when you don’t have HDTV? Or did your cable company make a mistake?
Widescreen TVs (like "regular" 4x3 TVs), are measured diagonally. So, a 32" widescreen has a display size about 27.9" wide and 15.7" high. When watching a standard definition show in non-stretch mode, the picture would be about 15.7" high and 20.8" wide... about the size you'd get on a 26" 4x3 TV.
I think that the comparison of satellite to cable has to be made on a case by case local basis. We have had Dish (non-HD) for about 5 years now. Our broadband cable provider also has cable TV so I priced it again recently, as I do from time to time, and it was actually slightly more expensive than satellite with the configuration we have.
You would think since I get broadband from them, the cable provider could discount the cable enuf to make it attractive to add on, but they won’t, so we will stick with satellite. Plus in our area, SD satellite is widely accepted to have a slightly better picture than the local cable provider.
No, Cable One includes all but the movie channels, and a few select HD channels that are subscription only, in the package I have.
So, I have access to about 18 HD channels. When I get an HDTV, I won’t have to make any programming or hardware changes.
I’m guessing that after Feb 18, I’ll have access to more HD channels.
On my SDTV, the HD channels come in letterboxed.
This morning they changed it to “Bratwine Het.” Don’t try to learn that. It is scheduled to change at noon again.
Sort of like the deception from Cox Cable.
They advertise free HD programming. But what they fail to mention is that you have to have an HD converter, even with a HD TV set, and that converter rents for $5.95.
My local cable says I have to have digital programming, also, which adds another few more $$$ for a minimum of $11.95.
So their ‘free’ HD programming costs about $13.00 or so with tax.
I’m sure it is a case by case decision. And as with you, Comcast isn’t known for their discounting; at least over a long-haul relationship. They may give initial discounts to draw business, but those soon drop.
Okay, that explains it. With Comcast, I have to subscribe for HD reception (and maybe even exchange my box). At $5 it’s no big deal, but that’s the way it’s structured.
Still, HDTV is no lure for me. My 32” Sony gives excellent results. I’m quite content...
LOL.
Our cable provider where we live is Cox Communications.
I also recently dumped my landline we did have with Cox, in favor of a VOIP service (T-Mobile @ Home) I added on to our T-Mobile cell service for an additional $10 per month, which includes long distance. It works well.
It was simple to set-up. I just plugged our existing set of cordless phonesets (which are placed throughout the house) into the router T-Mo provided and nothing in practical usage changed ... except of course, the price. We save something over $20 per month by the change, depending on what our long distance bill might have been with the cable landline.
We also put our entire T-Mo bill in my wife’s name so we get an additional 12% discount off the total, corporate discount, due to the hospital where she works. Cox isn’t offering any corporate discount, I might add. I wish T-Mobile would offer broadband internet!
Sharper, cleaner, and with a lot less mosquito noise.
With DirecTV, when I watched golf, the course looked more like green oceans than grass. With Cable One, when I watch golf on one of the HD channels, it IS grass. I'd estimate the improvement is 47,687% better.
The flesh on people's faces no longer shifts around. Eyeballs stay where they are. Programming is watchable again.
I did have to pull some clever legal maneuvers against DirecTV to keep from having to pay an early termination fee. <SPIT>. Well, not really clever. I merely had to research the laws WRT contracts in my State, and I discovered that DTV had made a huge error which means they are not legally entitled to the fee. YMMV.
Dang! I wanna watch foosball in yousirs house.
Only problemo is that my team is the Cowboys who has Porky Pig for a coach, Randy Dandy for a QB and a Cockroach for an Owner
When can I come by? I will bring dip. You get the chips
Awww!
I would have to go with Dish Network. According to their site they have 51 channels. Then they count RSN and PPV, quite a joke.
Is it possible to embarass the cable and sat providers into advertising their non-PPV HD channel count?
CUT AND PASTED FROM: http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/159614-new-hd-dish-2009-a.html (Question is when?)
HD National Channels Currently Planned to Launch in the Future! – One of DISH Network’s main strategies is to continue improving our HD channel offerings. Here is a list of HD national channels we currently plan on launching in 2009!
BET – The television network providing programming highlighting African-American culture.
Comedy Central – The all-comedy network.
CMT – The video network for young country fans, playing non-stop contemporary country hits 24 hours a day.
Crime & Investigation – Network dedicated to crime, investigation and mystery.
Fashion TV – The 24/7 fashion, beauty and style TV station.
FX – Offers a growing roster of award-winning original series and box-office hits.
MTV – America’s premier music video and entertainment network for young adults.
Nickelodeon – Offers the highest quality and top-rated kids programming in a variety of genres appealing to kids of all ages.
SHOTO – Offers double the entertainment power of Showtime.
Showtime Extreme – Dedicated to all action, all the time.
Showtime (West) HD – Showtime in high definition provides the ultimate in home theater entertainment.
SPEED – The 24-hour network that is devoted to the sport of NASCAR.
Spike TV – Addresses the modern mans lifestyle interests.
VH1 – Where today’s upscale viewers stay connected to the music and music culture they love.
Remember when cable came out advertised as no ad tv? That was one of it’s biggest selling points.
“WRT contracts”? Short explanation? Thanks in advance! ;-)
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We’re subjected to Comcast here for cable. Both Dish and Direct are available, a neighbor has one of them, but I’ve not gotten the bug. Comcast has outages at times, but I know from the neighbor that it’s not as frequent as he experiences. I think much of his problem is trees in the area. At least he mouths off about it (as well as other stuff). Me, I’m happy. I just wish we had carte blanche with our lineups. There’s a bunch of crap I’d drop and a couple I’d add. But only a couple.
We dropped our landline two years ago and went solely with cell phones. Our son and the wife’s sister and her husband have also gone that route. I’ve never looked back. I’m saving about $100/month. Happy guy...
I dropped the landline in Dec. It was $25/ month just to sit there. Any long distance call added $5 to the bill by the time they added all their extra fees.
I found a pay-as-you-go cellular for $100/year with 600 minutes of usage (I don’t make that many calls). I also found MagicJack, which allows me to make long distance calls. It only costs $20 per year. The combo of MagicJack and cellular give me more options and cost 2/3 less than the phone company’s $300/year landline.
The phone companies are losing hefty revenue over their landline coverage. I’ll mention the fact we only have cell coverage and perhaps half the people I talk to say the same thing. We don’t do a lot of long distance, and the majority of cell calls is between my wife and myself. So we don’t have to have mega minutes coverage. And we’ve never gone beyond our minutes. Works for me...
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