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Thiamine 'reverses kidney damage'
BBC ^ | Dec. 29, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 12/29/2008 4:34:29 AM PST by decimon

Doses of vitamin B1 (thiamine) can reverse early kidney disease in people with type 2 diabetes, research shows.

The team from Warwick University tested the effect of vitamin B1, which is found in meat, yeast and grain, on 40 patients from Pakistan.

The treatment stopped the loss of a key protein in the urine, the journal Diabetologia reports.

Charity Diabetes UK called the results "very promising" - but said it was too early for any firm conclusions.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: diabetes; health; kidneydisease; kidneys; nutrition; pakistan; paulthornalley; supplements; thiamine; vitaminb1; vitamins; warwickuniversity

1 posted on 12/29/2008 4:34:29 AM PST by decimon
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To: zip

PING


2 posted on 12/29/2008 4:36:58 AM PST by BOBWADE
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To: decimon

Very interesting. I wonder if it would prevent/reverse kidney damage from causes other than diabetes, and if it would work with cats.


3 posted on 12/29/2008 4:42:22 AM PST by Tax-chick (You exist, okay? YOU EXIST! Now stop talking to me!)
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To: Tax-chick
I wonder if it would prevent/reverse kidney damage from causes other than diabetes...

I wondered the same. In any case, it shouldn't hurt to take your multi-vitamin pill.

4 posted on 12/29/2008 4:49:19 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon; Coleus; neverdem; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Interesting.


5 posted on 12/29/2008 8:38:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv; DixieOklahoma; reuben barruchstein; theprophetyellszambolamboromo; Alusch; ...

sc, thanks for the ping


6 posted on 12/29/2008 8:31:43 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas)
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To: decimon; neverdem

i will add kewords; who controls the diabetes ping list?


7 posted on 12/29/2008 8:34:48 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas)
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To: Coleus; austinmark; FreedomCalls; IslandJeff; JRochelle; MarMema; Txsleuth; Newtoidaho; ...
i will add kewords; who controls the diabetes ping list?

FReepmail me if you want on or off the diabetes ping list.

8 posted on 12/29/2008 8:59:18 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
thanks, for the ping!
9 posted on 12/29/2008 9:06:53 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: Understated

ping


10 posted on 12/29/2008 9:37:52 PM PST by DeLaine (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Jefferson)
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To: decimon

Another Freeper told me about a drug/supplement called “Benfotiamine” which is a fat-soluble analog of Thiamine, which is water soluble - and therefore is excreted in the urine, so its blood level cannot generally be raised.

I had seen a neurologist about neuropathy (numbness) in both feet, possibly a result of borderline diabetes, and one of the first things he tested was B1 and B6 levels. B6 was a little high because I was taking a B6 supplement that was several times the MDR, but B1 was borderline. So I started taking Benfotiamine, and when I returned to the neurologist a couple of months later my B1 level was about 50% higher. Unfortunately, my neuropathy was about the same.

However, I did learn that benfotiamine DOES RAISE B1 LEVEL in the blood, and did not cause me any problems on as much as 3 capsules per day. I still take 1 daily, to insure that I have at least an adequate level.


11 posted on 12/29/2008 9:51:37 PM PST by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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To: MainFrame65

You could try using sulbutiamine (Fat soluble B1).
It works in a different way than Benfotiamine, crossed the Blood-Brain Barrier too.


12 posted on 12/30/2008 2:48:57 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: MainFrame65

Also, you could try this guy’s diet.

He thinks wheat is bad for you, and coconut oil is good.
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/

I just started, seen a little improvement.


13 posted on 12/30/2008 2:56:42 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: MainFrame65

I’ve read that the B vitamins should be taken as a complex, as it occurs in whole food, and not individually. Could be.


14 posted on 12/30/2008 3:28:31 AM PST by decimon
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To: MetaThought

I have been off wheat for about 4 months in a last ditch effort to rectify hypothyroidism. My TSH did not improve, but some of the mental fog and several extra pounds disappeared. (I should say there were only 4 pounds to lose, to be fair). I slipped during Christmas dinner and had some graham cracker crust. It’s a hard diet to maintain.


15 posted on 12/30/2008 4:00:15 AM PST by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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To: decimon

Good news!


16 posted on 12/30/2008 7:14:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 12/30/2008 7:14:42 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: momincombatboots

Don’t worry about slipping up.

Eating less gluten is an improvement too. :)


18 posted on 01/01/2009 8:36:22 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: momincombatboots

“I have been off wheat for about 4 months in a last ditch effort to rectify hypothyroidism.”

Have you tried iodine supplementation?


19 posted on 01/01/2009 10:46:58 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII; momincombatboots

Just make sure you don’t have Hashimoto’s first.


20 posted on 01/01/2009 12:02:23 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: DeLaine

There are rumors about, that a kiss is as good or possibly even better than vitamins. Also just heard of current divorce case where soon to be ex wants his kidney back that he donated to soon to be ex spouse. However as an alternative he’ll take $1,500,000.00. I do believe the kidney should be returned herewith, but only after I have been given the opportunity to tamper with it.


21 posted on 01/08/2009 7:06:01 AM PST by Understated (Power of love)
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To: Understated

The rumors are true, come to me for therapy and healing. :*


22 posted on 01/08/2009 10:31:52 AM PST by DeLaine (Power of love indeed. :))
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To: MainFrame65
Another Freeper told me about a drug/supplement called “Benfotiamine” which is a fat-soluble analog of Thiamine, which is water soluble -

I use 150mg per day and it reduces my
neuropathy (numbness) in both feet

23 posted on 01/08/2009 10:43:38 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt

I hope that it continues to improve your situation. I continue to take 1 capsule daily, instead of the three I took for several months. My neuropathy has not improved, but I do have occasional episodes of generalized tingling and discomfort that I believe I misinterpreted as actual sensation.

The blood level test done by my neurologist when I was taking 3 a day did show an abnormally high thiamine level, versus a very slightly low level before, so I continue with the daily dose. I have lost 30 pounds, and I walk 3+ miles (on a treadmill, 4+ mph, incline 10) almost every day. I used to be a runner, but neuropathy interferes with my balance so I use the treadmill and hang on to the bar.

But now I am 69, borderline diabetic, hypertensive, hypercholemic, arthritic, and suffering from both GERD and diverticulosis.


24 posted on 01/08/2009 9:05:22 PM PST by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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