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Sir Paul McCartney: I politicised the Beatles
The Guardian UK ^ | Monday 15 December 2008 10.36 GMT | Sean Michaels

Posted on 12/16/2008 10:37:20 AM PST by weegee

He's already painted himself as the most avant garde Beatle, now in what seems like another attempt to rewrite history, Sir Paul McCartney claims he was responsible for radicalising their their political views

In a statement that forces us to read Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da as a commentary on American neo-colonialism, Sir Paul has said that it is he who turned the Beatles on to politics, introducing John, Paul and Ringo to the evils of the Vietnam war.

Whereas John Lennon is widely considered the "political one", penning songs like Revolution and Give Peace a Chance, sweet Sir Paul is now presenting an alternative history. In a forthcoming interview with Prospect magazine, McCartney claims to have been the catalyst for the group's anti-war position.

"...someone said to me: 'Bertrand Russell is living not far from here in Chelsea, why don't you go and see him?'" McCartney said. Russell, then in his 90s, was a prominent philosopher and activist. "So I just took a taxi down there and knocked on the door."

"He was fabulous. He told me about the Vietnam war – most of us didn't know about it, it wasn't yet in the papers – and also that it was a very bad war."

That, McCartney explained, was enough. Filled with idealism, conviction and, er, a smattering of current events, "I remember going back to the studio either that evening or the next day and telling the guys, particularly John, about this meeting and saying what a bad war this was...."

While it's John Lennon who has retained the reputation for rabble-rousing, "I politicised the Beatles," McCartney insisted. And now he has passed the "megaphone" to a new generation of political artists, he said. People like Bono...

Somewhere in England, Paul McCartney is squeaking: "Me too!"

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: bealtemania; beatles; glib; hollywoodreds; howobnoxious; mccartney; obladont; paulmccartney; sirpaul; thebeatles
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1 posted on 12/16/2008 10:37:22 AM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Another article here:

Sir Paul McCartney: I was the anti-war Beatle. (The Times (UK) December 14, 2008 Maurice Chittenden)

2 posted on 12/16/2008 10:38:43 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; Brian Allen; cgk; ...

Rock and Roll Pingko.


3 posted on 12/16/2008 10:39:05 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: weegee

Taking credit for John Lennon’s work again?


4 posted on 12/16/2008 10:39:22 AM PST by mnehring
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To: weegee

He’s senile.


5 posted on 12/16/2008 10:41:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: weegee

Oh, I see. John Lennon the Commie had nothing to do with politcising the Beatles. Uh, huh. Right.


6 posted on 12/16/2008 10:41:38 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: weegee

Typical liberals...always living in the past and in the world of ought to be, because the reality of now, which they helped to create, is unpalatable.


7 posted on 12/16/2008 10:45:55 AM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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To: weegee

Well, if you can’t believe Bill Clinton’s favorite Beatle, who can you believe?


8 posted on 12/16/2008 10:46:48 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: trisham

Paul is a pothead with no appreciation for those who fight evil. He lives above the problems of society. As a ki-nigget, he lives in the dark....a night instead of a knight.

Sorry sirpaul, evil needs to be fought, not surrendered to.


9 posted on 12/16/2008 10:46:48 AM PST by Loud Mime ("Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato)
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To: weegee

This is what a lifetime of vegetarianism does to the brain.
“One leg short of a trophy wife”.


10 posted on 12/16/2008 10:46:57 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: weegee
"He told me about the Vietnam war – most of us didn't know about it, it wasn't yet in the papers – and also that it was a very bad war."

Thats deep, man.

11 posted on 12/16/2008 10:48:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: weegee

Who cares? The Beatles suck! I’m not a baby boom weenie so I don’t care.


12 posted on 12/16/2008 10:50:41 AM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: weegee

You would have been a lot better off Paul, if someone would have told you about GOD!


13 posted on 12/16/2008 10:52:22 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: skeeter

Exactly - I share your admiration for Sir Paul’s incisive powers of inductive and deductive reasoning.


14 posted on 12/16/2008 10:53:05 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Loud Mime
You're right, I'd forgotten about his past drug use. I'm sure all the drugs he did haven't helped his brain to function.

Is he still using pot?

15 posted on 12/16/2008 10:54:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mnehrling
Taking credit for John Lennon’s work again?

Have to agree. Ringo was obviously the least political. But George was also from an alternative lifestyle.

I will add that "it must be nice to make silly statements, when the two other Beatles who would disagree are dead and buried."

16 posted on 12/16/2008 10:54:48 AM PST by staytrue (YES WE CAN, (everyone should get in the practice of saying it, it will soon be manditory))
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To: mnehrling

Remember recently he was trying to rearrange the credits on the Beatles work to read “by McCartney and Lennon”.


17 posted on 12/16/2008 10:58:28 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: staytrue

One of the advantages of living a long time is that you eventually get your say.


18 posted on 12/16/2008 10:58:29 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Tallguy

“One of the advantages of living a long time is that you eventually get your say.”

Even if it is a lie and foolish.....


19 posted on 12/16/2008 11:09:56 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: weegee
...Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da as a commentary on American neo-colonialism....

and here I always thought this song was just drug induced babble. But then again I grew up in the real world, not in the 60’s. so maybe I missed something groovy in the translation...man.

20 posted on 12/16/2008 11:10:52 AM PST by skully (The GOP don't need no "Uncle Colins")
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To: weegee

I’m back in the U.S.S.R. hey
You don’t know how lucky you are boy
Back in the U.S.S.R.


21 posted on 12/16/2008 11:13:15 AM PST by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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To: MrLee

Yep!


22 posted on 12/16/2008 11:15:42 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: weegee

You never see Paulie going on and on saying, “I wrote Silly Love Songs!”


23 posted on 12/16/2008 11:16:51 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Grace = unmerited favor; Mercy = punishment withheld)
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To: weegee

Well, they did not start out as lefties. I believe it was McCartney who wrote “Taxman”.


24 posted on 12/16/2008 11:17:09 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: weegee
The stupid groupie wives from privileged backgrounds is who politicized the Beetles!


25 posted on 12/16/2008 11:19:29 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: neocon1984

“Taxman” would be one of the relatively rare George Harrison songs to be recorded by the band.


26 posted on 12/16/2008 11:20:30 AM PST by mak5
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To: neocon1984

George Harrison


27 posted on 12/16/2008 11:21:14 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: trisham

Mega pot head who gottaken to the cleaners by a crazy gimp. George was a saint. A really good man. George was treated badly by Paul and John because they would only write together. I recall the final studio sessions with yoko sitting next to John in the studio.

My guess is it was not as bad as being in Pink Floyd with libtard and bully Roger Waters. Rick Wright in Floyd was a founder and gentle soul like George. Waters treated Rick badly.


28 posted on 12/16/2008 11:22:21 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: weegee

Tried listing to some of the Beatles the other day. Sir Paul wrote the most mind numbing insipid and banal songs in their archive. Only Georges songs really survive the test of time...


29 posted on 12/16/2008 11:23:36 AM PST by skikvt (Palin 2012)
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To: Tallguy

Actually all he did was call Yoko and talk to her about changing the credit names on one song which was YESTERDAY written by McCartney. He was and is very professional and respectful of his and John’s song writing work. Of course Yoko said no.


30 posted on 12/16/2008 11:27:47 AM PST by domani
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To: neocon1984

Actually it was George Harrison. McCartney did do the great lead guitar work on the song though.


31 posted on 12/16/2008 11:27:47 AM PST by domani
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To: weegee

You’re right It was Harrison who wrote it. McCartney did do the fine lead work on that particular song though which I always thought was interesting.


32 posted on 12/16/2008 11:27:47 AM PST by domani
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To: mak5

Harrison best single songwriter in the band. Lennon and McCartney when they by themselves pretty much sucked.


33 posted on 12/16/2008 11:28:38 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: neocon1984

The movie “Help!” was an excercise to leave England and dodge taxes for awhile.


34 posted on 12/16/2008 11:35:17 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: MahatmaGandu

“Oh, I see. John Lennon the Commie had nothing to do with politcising the Beatles. Uh, huh. Right.”

But John was a kind of heroin haze politics. “Give Peace a Chance” and “Imagine” are sensible opinion pieces when you just stuck a needle in your arm.


35 posted on 12/16/2008 11:35:55 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: domani

Paul McCartney turned down Yoko in the 1960s and she’s never let him live it down.


36 posted on 12/16/2008 11:36:01 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: weegee
Russell was not firing on all cylinders mentally by then either, being heavily under the influence of Ralph Schoenman, an anti-war activist who later became the director of the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation.

None of the Beatles were educated men, to be charitable - musical geniuses but political toddlers. If McCartney wants to take credit for politicizing a not particularly political music group, so be it. I'd be more interested to learn who really turned them all onto LSD. That, IMHO, was a lot more infulential than politics.

37 posted on 12/16/2008 11:36:39 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Frantzie

Ringo Starr was treated even worse than George. Ringo left the band during The Beatles/White Album. Imagine not getting to contribute more songs on the record because they wanted to put on Revolution 9 and threatened to put on Mary Jane Had A Pain.


38 posted on 12/16/2008 11:38:20 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Billthedrill

“Dr. Roberts”. Reportedly a dentist they knew.


39 posted on 12/16/2008 11:38:56 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Frantzie

McCartney was the only successful Beatle after the break-up. George nor John never came close to writing as many hits or selling as many records. Don’t get me wrong they were both great writers they just couldn’t keep up with Paul.


40 posted on 12/16/2008 11:39:43 AM PST by domani
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To: neocon1984
Quote: "Well, they did not start out as lefties. I believe it was McCartney who wrote “Taxman”." I think George Harrison wrote "Taxman". Whichever Beatle wrote it, it is a shining example of Liberal-Leftist hypocrisy. "Money, get back. Im all right jack keep your hands off of my stack. Money, its a hit. Dont give me that do goody good bullshit. Im in the high-fidelity first class traveling set And I think I need a lear jet. Money, its a crime. Share it fairly but dont take a slice of my pie." "Money" - Pink Floyd
41 posted on 12/16/2008 11:40:26 AM PST by kamaaina (I didn't leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me.)
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To: domani
McCartney was the only successful Beatle after the break-up. George nor John never came close to writing as many hits or selling as many records.

Yeah, but neither would have stooped so low as to actually record, not only one, but two duets with Michael Jackson.

42 posted on 12/16/2008 11:42:15 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: Reagan79

“Who cares? The Beatles suck! I’m not a baby boom weenie so I don’t care.”

Well I am a Baby-boomer, and I was never that impressed with their music either. Although they had a few good songs, they had tons of terrible, annoying songs, and I think Pete Townshend of The Who was a vastly better songwriter than any of the Beatles.


43 posted on 12/16/2008 11:43:39 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: weegee

Agreed. My guess is Ringo and George had no party. Rick Wright in pink floyd got the same treatment and Gilmour had no love for Waters either. Dave Davies was not too thrilled with Ray either.


44 posted on 12/16/2008 11:45:17 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: skeeter
"Thats deep, man."

Whoa.....like...yeah (cough...cough)...NOW we... like.. find out that Paul was 'The Heavy Beatle'?


45 posted on 12/16/2008 11:47:20 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: weegee

Ringo treated badly? Gimme a break. The other three brought him into the band. He would be a real nowhere man without them. All bands have their troubles but Paul and Ringo are still great friends today.


46 posted on 12/16/2008 11:56:25 AM PST by domani
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To: dfwgator

Yeah I guess he should have stayed home and stuck needles in his arms like John and became a junkie then we could really respect him Huh?


47 posted on 12/16/2008 11:56:25 AM PST by domani
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To: weegee

Why don’t any of these old geezer rockers from the ‘60’s know when to just retire & shut up? Who cares what he says?


48 posted on 12/16/2008 11:57:43 AM PST by Smittie
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To: skikvt

Agreed. I think George’s tunes were among the best.


49 posted on 12/16/2008 11:59:25 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: domani

I don’t recall making any comments concerning writing credits. You might want to re-direct your response.


50 posted on 12/16/2008 12:01:57 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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