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Has an alien comet infiltrated the solar system?
New Scientist ^ | 3 December 2008 | Stephen Battersby

Posted on 12/03/2008 9:41:38 AM PST by Fractal Trader

A comet orbiting our Sun may be an interloper from another star system.

Comet Machholz 1 isn't like other comets. David Schleicher of the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, measured the chemical makeup of 150 comets, and found that they all had similar levels of the chemical cyanogen (CN) except for Machholz 1, which has less than 1.5% of the normal level. Along with some other comets, it is also low on the molecules carbon2 and carbon3.

Schleicher suggests three possible explanations.

The simplest is that Machholz 1 could have formed in an extremely cold region of the solar system. The other comets depleted in carbon2 and carbon3 are thought to have formed in the chilly outer regions of the Kuiper belt far beyond Neptune, where the low temperatures mean that most carbon gets trapped in other molecules. "In really extreme cold, maybe the cyanogen goes away as well?" says Schleicher. Hurled out

A second possibility is suggested by the comet's peculiar orbit. Machholz 1 approaches very close to the Sun on its orbit, closer even than Mercury, so it is possible that repeated baking by the Sun's heat has removed most of its cyanogen.

But a more exciting idea is that Machholz 1 is an alien. "An extrasolar origin makes it easy to explain the composition - of course we'd expect everything to be different," Schleicher told New Scientist. "Here, three molecules with carbon are all depleted, so maybe carbon is depleted across the board? That sounds to me as if it came from somewhere else and is not just an oddball from our solar system."

Astronomers expect some comets to be hurled out of their stellar systems by the gravity of giant planets.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; comet; cometmachholz1; machholz1
Alien comets? Next you will hear that there are Klingons surrounding Uranus.
1 posted on 12/03/2008 9:41:38 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader
A comet orbiting our Sun may be an interloper from another star system.

Sure, why not? It's not like they have to worry about time or anything.
2 posted on 12/03/2008 9:43:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Alien Comets. Willing to do the planet blasting that other comets are willing to do.


3 posted on 12/03/2008 9:44:21 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Fractal Trader

We need to build a fence around the solar system to keep these illegal aliens out!


4 posted on 12/03/2008 9:44:40 AM PST by CrazyJoeDivola
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To: Fractal Trader

The return of Vger! Be afraid.


5 posted on 12/03/2008 9:44:57 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Rapture’s coming.


6 posted on 12/03/2008 9:45:04 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Fractal Trader

>Next you will hear that there are Klingons surrounding Uranus.

Dingleberry-pie anyone?


7 posted on 12/03/2008 9:45:26 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Alien Comets. Willing to do the planet blasting that other comets AREN’T willing to do.

Dangit, blew a punchline.


8 posted on 12/03/2008 9:46:32 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: SunkenCiv

Interested for GGG?


9 posted on 12/03/2008 9:46:53 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

I suppose our Congress will soon present legislation to grant galactic amnesty for alien comets.


10 posted on 12/03/2008 9:48:14 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I for one will NOT welcome our new Marxist overlords.)
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To: Fractal Trader

McCain will work with Obama to grant the comet amnesty.


11 posted on 12/03/2008 9:48:41 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (We are SO screwed.)
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To: Fractal Trader

we better send the space battleship yamato to defeat the comet empire


12 posted on 12/03/2008 9:50:47 AM PST by edzo4 (NoBama 2012)
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To: Fractal Trader
"That sounds to me as if it came from somewhere else and is not just an oddball from our solar system."

Finally....Obama's Birthplace Revealed!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

13 posted on 12/03/2008 9:53:04 AM PST by BossLady (Ok Everybody......Get Ready For ......'THE MOOD RING PRESIDENCY'......)
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To: BossLady

there was a thread about how someone is claiming that aliens are protecting OBama...something about you can see lights around him or something. I can’t remember the details. It also talked about how one of the former astronauts who walked on the moon believes in aliens.


14 posted on 12/03/2008 9:54:53 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Fractal Trader

Better than Klingons invading Uranus....


15 posted on 12/03/2008 9:55:51 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Fractal Trader
Comet Machholz 1 isn't like other comets. David Schleicher of the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, measured the chemical makeup of 150 comets, and found that they all had similar levels of the chemical cyanogen (CN) except for Machholz 1, which has less than 1.5% of the normal level.

While interesting, 150 measured comets isn't much of a baseline to establish "normal".

16 posted on 12/03/2008 9:57:01 AM PST by RJL
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To: RummyChick
And here you thought I was kidding..... :o

((FYI - the lights around Obama are sirens....;))

17 posted on 12/03/2008 9:57:16 AM PST by BossLady (Ok Everybody......Get Ready For ......'THE MOOD RING PRESIDENCY'......)
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To: Fractal Trader
View of Comet as seen from Hubble:


18 posted on 12/03/2008 10:03:58 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: OB1kNOb
I suppose our Congress will soon present bailout legislation...
19 posted on 12/03/2008 10:04:02 AM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: NonValueAdded; All
The return of Vger! Be afraid.

Trust me, folks, if you don't get the reference... consider yourselves lucky. :)

The heart of V'Ger
The center contained the oldest part of V'Ger – Voyager VI, an unmanned space probe launched by NASA in the late-1990s. The entire vessel surrounding the Voyager probe was built by an unknown race of machine entities in order to help it complete what the latter interpreted to be its primary programming: "learn all that is learnable," and return that knowledge to its creator. During its journey, the probe came to think of itself as V'Ger after the only remaining legible letters from its original name, and amassed knowledge to such a degree as to become self-aware.

Source: Memory Alpha
20 posted on 12/03/2008 10:06:32 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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To: Fractal Trader
... repeated baking by the Sun's heat has removed most of its cyanogen.

Aaaagh! ... Is this what we can expect with Global Warming?! Loss of cyanogen! We're Doooooomed!

21 posted on 12/03/2008 10:08:41 AM PST by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Fractal Trader
RAMA, is that you?

If true, it is just because it is taking a job that American comets refuse to do.

22 posted on 12/03/2008 10:08:48 AM PST by 50sDad (-/\/\/\- Obama's coming; be a Resistor!)
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To: Fractal Trader
Alien comets? Next you will hear that there are Klingons surrounding Uranus.

Be careful firing those paper torpedoes then. One miss and you could wind up squealing like a Deliverance actor.

23 posted on 12/03/2008 10:12:02 AM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Too bad for Heaven's Gate.... Their ride is finally here.

24 posted on 12/03/2008 10:53:29 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (ACORN is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Fractal Trader

We are all going to die.


25 posted on 12/03/2008 11:01:48 AM PST by LiberConservative
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To: BossLady

Obama’s birth-place revealed ...

Good one!


26 posted on 12/03/2008 11:37:16 AM PST by Cloverfarm (Children are a blessing ...)
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To: Fractal Trader

Isn’t the correct term undocumented migrant celestial body? How long before Ted Kennedy and John McCain co-author a bill to grant the comet a path to citizenship of our solar system?


27 posted on 12/03/2008 2:03:51 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Secret Agent Man
Better than Klingons invading Uranus....

Wouldn't that depend on the klingon in question?

28 posted on 12/03/2008 2:10:18 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Fractal Trader
for Catastrophism, maybe GGG, but I've got to dash, so will figure it out later. :') Thanks!

Machholz site:freerepublic.com
Google

29 posted on 12/03/2008 2:20:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: VRWCmember

Being a straight guy, no.


30 posted on 12/03/2008 3:46:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; BenLurkin; ...
Thanks Fractal Trader.
 
Catastrophism
 
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31 posted on 12/04/2008 9:32:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: RummyChick
But aliens are REAL. I have proof.

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32 posted on 12/04/2008 6:40:34 PM PST by bigheadfred (FREE Evan Vela)
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David Schleicher of the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona, measured the chemical makeup of 150 comets, and found that they all had similar levels of the chemical cyanogen (CN) except for Machholz 1, which has less than 1.5% of the normal level. Along with some other comets, it is also low on the molecules carbon2 and carbon3.

33 posted on 12/05/2008 4:45:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: Fractal Trader

No, that’s politically incorrect! The right term is “undocumented comet”.


34 posted on 12/05/2008 5:00:42 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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