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Obama Is Not a Socialist
The American Sentinel ^ | 11/03/2008 | TBascom

Posted on 11/03/2008 3:44:03 PM PST by TBascom

Since there is so much right-wing blog assertion that Obama has socialist friends, associates, philosophies, and attitudes, I thought I’d take a look at the evidence and claims.

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1 posted on 11/03/2008 3:44:03 PM PST by TBascom
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To: TBascom
Yes he is.

So there.

2 posted on 11/03/2008 3:45:04 PM PST by edpc
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To: TBascom

Oh that’s good. I hope folks don’t knee jerk to the title and take time to read it.


3 posted on 11/03/2008 3:45:41 PM PST by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: TBascom

And Hitler wasn’t a fascist.


4 posted on 11/03/2008 3:48:56 PM PST by NoobRep
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To: TBascom

He’s not only a socialist, but an asshat as well.


5 posted on 11/03/2008 3:49:40 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: TBascom

We were just calling him a socialist to be kind.

But since you’ve corrected us, we’ll call him what he is: an authoritarian Marxist.


6 posted on 11/03/2008 3:50:05 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (You MUST see this website: http://www.neverfindout.org/)
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To: TBascom
OK, I agree. Obama is not a socialist, he is a soft Communist.

Only ‘soft’ because he hasn't got his internal security force, err make that Gestapo, organized yet. The final solution to all the socialist ideals, the bayonet and the gulag.

Socialism doesn't fail, it just runs out of other people's money to give away. Or more precisely, why work when the pies are free.

7 posted on 11/03/2008 3:50:09 PM PST by Tarpon (Barack Obama will ban all the guns he has the votes for ...)
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To: TBascom

Yes he is. Socialist/marxist/black liberationalist/scum/thug/racebaiter/liar/chicago politician/did i say liar?


8 posted on 11/03/2008 3:52:26 PM PST by libbylu
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To: mnehrling
Oh that’s good. I hope folks don’t knee jerk to the title and take time to read it.

Correctamundo. Article is actually about 28 proofs that he is a socialist.

9 posted on 11/03/2008 3:52:36 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Welcome PUMAs!)
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To: mnehrling

“Oh that’s good. I hope folks don’t knee jerk to the title and take time to read it”

So, did you see if Gov. Palin was holding this article when she said “Sen. Obama is not a Socialist”.


10 posted on 11/03/2008 3:53:28 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: TBascom
Obama Is Not a Socialist

We calls 'em like we sees 'em!

11 posted on 11/03/2008 3:53:47 PM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Leninist would be a closer description. Marxism is the path he is headed (we throw that term out a lot), but Leninist would be the practical description of what he is.


12 posted on 11/03/2008 3:54:17 PM PST by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: Peter Horry
I have no idea what you are talking about so here is Obama with a pancake on his head.


13 posted on 11/03/2008 3:55:48 PM PST by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: TBascom

I recommend everyone bend over backwards and kiss your rear end goodbye for tomorrow we enter Obamaland and the United Soviet States of America.

I guess we should have guessed that it was a fool’s errand to pretend we would have freedom forever. It has to be earned and we, as a nation, just decided to march into the ovens.


14 posted on 11/03/2008 3:58:58 PM PST by RichardW
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To: beethovenfan
Just like my tagline states: Obama is a dude posing as another dude, who is impersonating another dude!
15 posted on 11/03/2008 4:02:33 PM PST by Recon by Fire (Obama is a dude posing as another dude, who is impersonating another dude!)
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To: mnehrling

This actually looks more like Barack Obama with a hole in his head. If this is the case instead, then it would prove that Barack Obama has an “open mind” about both thoughts and issues!


16 posted on 11/03/2008 4:03:18 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: TBascom
Obama Is Not a Socialist

You're right....he's purt near a National Socialist.

17 posted on 11/03/2008 4:04:14 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: TBascom
He's a Communist who while mild mannered himself, just as Pol Pot was a mild mannered professor, he also set up a Maoist based Communist-Extremist death apparatus and surrounded himself with killers who did the dirty work slaughtering millions for crimes as innocuous as wearing a pair of glasses.

Looks can be very deceiving.

Anyone who doesn't see all the patterns of a Marxist regime coming together simply doesn't have the knowledge to do so.

The revolutionary is a dedicated man. He has no interests of his own, no affairs, no feelings, no attachments, no belongings, not even a name. Everything in him is absorbed by a single exclusive interest, a single thought, a single passion—the revolution. — Sergei Nechayev, Catechism of the Revolutionist.
18 posted on 11/03/2008 4:04:54 PM PST by FTL
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To: TBascom; SAJ; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; BOBTHENAILER; Marine_Uncle; blam; SunkenCiv; ..

Ok...pingaroo!


19 posted on 11/03/2008 4:05:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: TBascom

Good article. Thanks. Hopefully, people will take the time to read it.


20 posted on 11/03/2008 4:07:04 PM PST by kabar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well done- worth reading...but then again- preaching to the choir..


21 posted on 11/03/2008 4:10:05 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: TBascom

THIS IS THE ARTICLE

Since there is so much right-wing blog assertion that Obama has socialist friends, associates, philosophies, and attitudes, I thought I’d take a look at the evidence and claims.

1. Senator Barack Obama is a self-acknowledged student of Saul Alinsky, who was a self-professed communist - but Obama is not a Socialist.
2. Senator Obama practiced Alinsky’s version of community organizing, emphasizing organizing to take down local governments in the name of the “people” - but Obama is not a Socialist.
3. Senator Obama taught Alinsky’s version of community organizing theory, philosophy, and practice - but Obama is not a Socialist.
4. Senator Obama’s mentor, Saul Alinsky, advised in his “Rules for Radicals” that activists work within the Democratic system and use democracy’s openness to diverse ideas to install socialism from within the system - but Obama is not a Socialist.
5. Senator Obama worshipped for 20 years at Rev. Wright’s church. The church’s Black-centered activist ideology is based on the Marxist political ideology of James Cone - but Obama is not a Socialist.
6. Senator Obama listened to Rev. Wright’s sermons for 20 years; Wright’s theology is the Black Liberation Theology of James Cone; and Liberation Theology is based in Marxist interpretations of the Christian story - but Obama is not a Socialist.
7. Senator Obama records in his autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope,” that he became a Christian while listening to one of Rev. Wright’s provocative sermons in which anti-capitalism and pro-communitarianism are preached - but Obama is not a Socialist.
8. Senator Obama is a friend of Liberation Theology preacher, Father Flagher - but Obama is not a Socialist.
9. Senator Obama is a friend and associate of Rev. Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the socialist-leaning, anti-Semitic Nation of Islam - but Obama is not a Socialist.
10. Senator Obama served on several boards with admitted Socialist William Ayers, including one that redirected Annenberg Foundation funds (intended for programs to improve classroom education) to non-school community groups that promoted socialist principles - but Obama is not a Socialist.
11. Senator Obama began his Illinois Senate run at a fundraiser hosted by Bill Ayers in Ayers’ home - but Obama is not a Socialist.
12. Senator Obama hired a team of lawyers and partisan activists to find technicalities that would eliminate his Illinois Senate competitors before the election, so that he could run unopposed - a tactic common to the old USSR and China - but Obama is not a Socialist.
13. Senator Obama attended and spoke at a dinner honoring Palestinian-born, pro-Hamas (a self-described socialist, Islamist organization), anti-Semitic Professor Rashid Khalidi - but Obama is not a Socialist.
14. Senator Obama has voted, both at the state level and at the national level, for the most left-leaning bills and programs - but Obama is not a Socialist.
15. Senator Obama has refused to release his lecture notes or syllabi from when he taught law at Chicago University; he has refused to make his college thesis available; he has refused to provide his medical records; he has refused to clarify the question of his birth certificate; he has colluded to keep secret a video tape of the dinner for Khalidi - in other words, Obama has refused to disclose information that would challenge the public image he has been developing throughout the campaign, in ways reminiscent of Castro and Mao - but Obama is not a Socialist.
16. Senator Obama deployed a team of researchers, private investigators, and lawyers to Alaska in an effort to take out Governor Palin (as he did his Illinois political competition), rather than compete with her in the realm of ideas - but Obama is not a Socialist.
17. Senator Obama deployed a team of researchers, private investigators, and lawyers to find “dirt” on Joe the Plumber because the Senator did not like the question one of his potential constitutents asked him - as though he should be respected and not challenged, like an old Politboro member - but Obama is not a Socialist.
18. Senator Obama told Joe the Plumber that it is right to “spread the wealth around, ” by which he means it is right to take the wealth created by hardworking, risk-taking citizens to give to those who have not achieved as much - but Obama is not a Socialist.
19. Senator Obama has declared that it is “selfish” for people who have worked hard, paid their taxes, and achieved financial success to want to keep their earnings for themselves and their heirs - but Obama is not a Socialist.
20. Senator Obama has said that he will not allow Americans to continue to be “self-centered;” that he will require citizens to volunteer on behalf of others - but Obama is not a Socialist.
21. Senator Obama has declared that certain reporters, newspapers, and TV stations shall not have access to him, his running mate, or his campaign, as punishment for asking challenging questions, and as a warning to the Press at large that they are to maintain a fawning approach to his candidacy (and presumably his presidency, should he win) - but Obama is not a Socialist.
22. Senator Obama champions the “Fairness Doctrine” that seeks to assure that private enterprise radio stations meet government-mandated standards of “balanced reporting,” rather than respecting media’s historic role as an independent watchdog and critic of government and institutions - thereby preferring the media model of communist and totalitarian countries rather than the media model of our nation’s Founders - but Obama is not a Socialist.
23. Senator Obama has said he will tax the rich to give money to the poor. His defninition of “rich” has moved from $300,000 to $250,000 to $200,000 to $150,000 to $120,000 to $97,000 over the last couple weeks. And in the past he actually voted to increase taxes on people earning over $42,000 - but Obama is not a Socialist.
24. Senator Obama wants to give “tax rebates” to the 40% of the American taxpayer base that pays no taxes - but Obama is not a Socialist.
25. Senator Obama has declared that he will cause the coal industry to go bankrupt by charging coal plants huge sums for carbon offset credits, thus allowing government to control and dominate free enterprise - but Obama is not a Socialist.
26. Senator Obama has said that our electric bills need to be significantly higher; that our high gasoline costs were acceptable, except that they went up faster than he’d like; and that the U.S. must use less heat and get used to doing with more sweaters, as people do in Asia and Europe (where some countries, like Italy, do not permit people to heat their homes until October, regardless of the temperature) - but Obama is not a Socialist.
27. Senator Obama has said that the U.S. cannot depend only upon our military for our future national security, but we must have a “civilian force” as well-armed, as well-financed, and as well-trained as the army - which sounds like the extensive “civilian” party-loyal committees that controlled neighborhood life in the USSR, and still do in China and North Korea - but Obama is not a Socialist.
28. Senator Obama has promised ACORN - the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, that embraces the political ideology of Saul Alinsky; that has been charged with voter registration fraud in now-3 national elections; that employed Obama as both a trainer and a lawyer; that has endorsed Obama in violation of its IRS status as a non-political organization - Obama has promised ACORN that they will be strongly represented in his Presidential transition team, to help him identify his Administration’s immediate goals - but Obama is not a Socialist.

Since Obama is so clearly not a Socialist in his thoughts, his friendships and associations, or his attitudes toward those he wants to govern, consider carefully how you will vote.


22 posted on 11/03/2008 4:10:48 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: TBascom
Said it before and I'll say it again: Since Obama denies he is a socialist, then the question is, "What does Obama believe is the definition of a socialist?"

I thinks it's safe to say that if Obama had been asked that question there would be enough umm' and uhh's to put Teddy Kennedy to shame.

23 posted on 11/03/2008 4:11:11 PM PST by torchthemummy (Why Is The Educational Establishment Comfortable With Ayers' Unrepentent Radicalism (Terrorism)?)
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To: TBascom

No, he’s a Stalinist!


24 posted on 11/03/2008 4:15:40 PM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: FTL

**The revolutionary is a dedicated man. He has no interests of his own, no affairs, no feelings, no attachments, no belongings, not even a name. Everything in him is absorbed by a single exclusive interest, a single thought, a single passion—the revolution. — Sergei Nechayev, Catechism of the Revolutionist.**

That’s Obama to a T.

Good article.


25 posted on 11/03/2008 4:15:49 PM PST by bronxville
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To: TBascom
Very nice piece, reminiscent of that fine column by the late, great Michael Kelly, entitled, "I believe." And I almost missed it because I didn't want to click on another lame apologetic for Obama.

Next time, include a couple sentences as an introduction, so readers like me won't skip the article. Please.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Smoke and Mirrors," the Anderson Analysis

The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.

26 posted on 11/03/2008 4:15:56 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (My 8th book, just published. Visit here: www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: NoobRep
And Hitler wasn’t a fascist. He WAS a socialist.
27 posted on 11/03/2008 4:18:29 PM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: edpc
Obama Is Not a Socialist
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Obama is **not** a socialist. Obama is a hard core MARXIST, and so are his friends.

I recommend the article.

28 posted on 11/03/2008 4:21:15 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Just in case you haven't seen this:

OBAMA TELLS SAN FRANCISCO HE WILL INTENTIONALLY BANKRUPT THE COAL INDUSTRY!!!

29 posted on 11/03/2008 4:23:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: mnehrling

“I have no idea what you are talking about so here is Obama with a pancake on his head”

I thought I had seen where Gov. Palin had said Sen. Obama was not a Socialist, thought it might have been based on conclusions similar to those in the article, or perhaps her fingers were crossed. I though of a good molasses for that pancake but I won’t post it.


30 posted on 11/03/2008 4:24:48 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: mnehrling
Leninist
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You are absolutely correct. Marxism is used often to describe Obama. Leninist is the better term.

31 posted on 11/03/2008 4:25:22 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: TBascom
He may be right about Obama, but stringing things like this together doesn't make his point:

29. Senator Obama ate a healthy breakfast of muesli and soy milk with a grapefruit and cottage cheese -- but Obama is not a socialist.

32 posted on 11/03/2008 4:26:21 PM PST by x
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To: TBascom

He’s right, He’s a Commie.


33 posted on 11/03/2008 4:27:29 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: TBascom

Don’t need to read no stinking article. I heard him say “spread the wealth.” I don’t need anymore data than that.


34 posted on 11/03/2008 4:28:07 PM PST by yazoo
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To: Peter Horry
So, did you see if Gov. Palin was holding this article when she said “Sen. Obama is not a Socialist”.

Nope, I didn't. Where is it located on the web, I'd like to see it...........

35 posted on 11/03/2008 4:29:55 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Spreading manure around helps growth. Spreading wealth around creates manure)
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To: TBascom
Senator Obama records in his autobiography, “The Audacity of Hope,” that he became a Christian while listening to one of Rev. Wright’s provocative sermons in which anti-capitalism and pro-communitarianism are preached

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know when or even whether Obama was baptized? So far as I know, without that he's not a Christian.

36 posted on 11/03/2008 4:34:53 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Peter Horry

I think I may have misunderstood your post as a /sarc that she wasn’t thinking of the direction of this article.


37 posted on 11/03/2008 4:43:55 PM PST by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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To: wintertime

I read it. It’s dead on. I just liked the title and posted a snarky response.


38 posted on 11/03/2008 4:47:21 PM PST by edpc
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Nope, I didn’t. Where is it located on the web, I’d like to see it”

It was on this forum, here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2124087/posts

This is kind of like the patriotism issue “I question his judgment not his patriotism”.


39 posted on 11/03/2008 4:54:39 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: JoeFromSidney
...does anyone know when or even whether Obama was baptized? So far as I know, without that he's not a Christian.

Accepting Christ as one's personal Savior makes one a Christian, baptized or not. Hitler was baptized, but I sincerely doubt that he was saved.

40 posted on 11/03/2008 4:56:56 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: TBascom
When I was in school, I was taught that socialists wanted the state to operate facilities like the phone service, postal service, etc. which were funded in some measure by taxpayer moneys; communists wanted to take over businesses that had been built by other people.

Since then, it seems that 'socialist' has been redefined to mean 'communist, but we can't really admit it'.

41 posted on 11/03/2008 5:05:27 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: TBascom

Hey asswipe: Welcome to Free Republic. Now, go away with this crap....


42 posted on 11/03/2008 5:05:48 PM PST by mmanager (It's amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager; TBascom
Hey asswipe: Welcome to Free Republic. Now, go away with this crap....

What you call "crap" is quite obviously something you HAVE NOT READ.

43 posted on 11/03/2008 5:10:43 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TBascom
Sign up date Oct. 23, 2008. Election tomorrow. Also, some of us have noticed a pronounced troll odor...

IBTZ

44 posted on 11/03/2008 5:13:20 PM PST by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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To: TBascom

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, ITS A DUCK!


45 posted on 11/03/2008 5:14:39 PM PST by bushwon
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To: wagglebee; TBascom

My apologies as I posted based on the title and after I posted I read the article. Again, I’m sorry for the post. I’m just getting a little testy coming around turn four.


46 posted on 11/03/2008 5:17:03 PM PST by mmanager (It's amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: mmanager; TBascom

No, big deal. I was a little skeptical at first, but after reading, it was one of the finest examples of hyperbole I’ve ever seen.


47 posted on 11/03/2008 5:18:53 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TBascom
Obama Is Not a Socialist

Well, just what is the current politically correct term for a communist, marxist, muslim terrorist sleeper-agent, crack-smoking, homo?

48 posted on 11/03/2008 5:29:07 PM PST by meadsjn (Socialists promote neighbors selling out their neighbors; Free Traitors promote just the opposite.)
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To: Peter Horry
So, did you see if Gov. Palin was holding this article when she said “Sen. Obama is not a Socialist”.

It was on this forum, here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2124087/posts

sorry PH but I still didn't see any evidence where Gov. Palin said Obama wasn't a Socialist........

Please direct me to the appropriate posting # on the proper thread........thanks

49 posted on 11/03/2008 5:29:55 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Spreading manure around helps growth. Spreading wealth around creates manure)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“sorry PH but I still didn’t see any evidence where Gov. Palin said Obama wasn’t a Socialist”

Let me try this again, if this doesn’t work search “Palin Socialist”

Palin declines to call Obama Socialist. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2124013/posts


50 posted on 11/03/2008 5:41:42 PM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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