Posted on 10/12/2008 7:17:24 AM PDT by ODDITHER
I do not put anything past Obama. He has some of the brightest communist minds behind his campaign and the rest of his supporters have imbibed in the organic juice with the union label.
What is to stop Nancy P from bringing congress back for an emergency session to vote on the stimulus package and making part of the bill an ammendment to Immigration Act making the last changes retroactive? Could this happen?
Wouldn't this make both issues of being natural born mute? I keep thinking that even the Dems aren't so arrogant to support a man that at the very least is a naturalized citizen and at the very most an illegal alien.
What are the laws on the books regarding Fraudulantly registering the birth of a child?
Since the perpetrator is dead - couldn't a judge rule that it wasn't the fault of the child that the mother fraudulantly registered his birth and lied about where he was born.
How do people whose children were born at home prove that they were born in the US?
Wouldn't this kind of come under the same thing as say, Marriages performed by a Judge who is found to have faked his qualifications and is removed from the bench. It doesn't negate the marriages that he performed does it?
Under the constitution when an expat reclaims his citizenship aren't they reclaiming the orginal citizenship? By taking the oath don't they revert back to their original citizenship?
What happens to children that are born in the US to a natural born mother and a Saudi and the father takes the children and goes back home. If she gets her children back have they lost their citizenship? Do they now become naturalized citizens?
Wasn’t that question answered over a hundred years ago?
I am sick of people using examples of America’s worst moments to judge our country. Would you want someone to judge your life based on your worth four or five worst moments? No. You Judge based on the positive acts against their worst.
Yes our Gov’t did round up Japanese people durring WWII. Bad things happen durring war. We were fighting a brutal enemy and HAD TO WIN. Lincoln suspended certain civil rights during the civil war was this just as wrong? Most governments in history have done things considered immoral.
Did these governments do these things to WIN the war and STOP horrible atrocities or try to use brutal atrocities to enslave people? I argue it was far worse to lose our war against Japan and Germany than our infringemnent of civil rights. Fighting aginst brutal dictatorships is worthwhile.
Protecting civil rights and losing this war would have been catastrophic. If we had lost the defeat would end ALL your civil rights including your right to live. We should be very cautious in allowing the infringment of civil liberties by gov’t.
Our rights are to protect against tyranny and oppression. These rights are best used to fight to preserve life and liberty. So being locked up unjustly to defeat the axis powers and loss of EVERY FREEDOM is sadly a unfortunate cost of war. Do the Soldiers complain about the fact they give up some rights to be in the military?
It is worth it to temporarily lose their freedoms to protect the freedom of all our citizens. We used internment to protect our citizens and ability to fight Germany and Japan. The people weren’t killed just detained.
Allowing a madman to continue to systematicly murder entire races would have been a far worse injustice. History should judge the USA on its achievments not a series of moments we aren’t proud of.
Our country has brought freedom to far more people than it ever enslaved or killed. The USA does contributes far more money and aid to humanitarian causes than most. Finally without the USA the UN than supposedly brings peace wouldn’t exist.
Check into crimes perpatrated on citizens under the guise of peace by UN soldiers.
DO YOU TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT?
NOT MANY DO!!
No I am always wary of a large government with too much authority. The way in which they can deprive you of your rigths goes beyond silencing speech.
The IRS can take away your home or lively hood for a missed tax deduction. The DEA can seize your property and money by declaring it drug profits.
They don’t even have to have a court order or proof of how much was supposedly made. If you are caught with a certain ammount of a drug they can take everything you own.
So I don’t trust government. This is why I believe a small gov’t with fewer agencies and powers, and less taxes. The less power given over to government gives less oppertunity for abuse. No system is perfect and can prevent abuse of power.
Any Government can be tyranical if it’s leader has the oppertunity to abuse power with no srutiny. I would never trust a politician or party either will be tempted to misuse powers of an office. Humans enjoy great power even if we know we can’t handle the responsiblity. I trust our Constitution and it’s wisdom.
The founders never said this will prevent any abuse of power. They knew this can’t be prevented. They did create a form of governent to allow speration of powers along with checks and balances to prevent abuses.
They also allowed each branch of the gov’t to be able to overide another to prevent tyranny by any one branch. These and the ability to correct or amend our laws allows us to correct mistakes and prevent others. SO I trust our Constitution.
When the system works properly abuses are exposed. This is why I fear an Obama administration. He would have no checks and balances to his authority. In addition to a media unwilling to do tell the public anything about the man.
Putting a man whose past is unknown into this position is dangerous. Even if he didn’t intend to abuse his powers, I’m afraid he will give in to temptation in order to fix an “unjust” system.
Abusing power to fix past abuses is not an answer. Even the best of men will be tempted by unchecked power.
I don't think so. You don't get a pass just for dying. Obama has already been named a citizen though, because he has a passport, so I don't know what would happen if his original qualification were false.
Wouldn't this kind of come under the same thing as say, Marriages performed by a Judge who is found to have faked his qualifications and is removed from the bench. It doesn't negate the marriages that he performed does it?
Not a legal beagle but I think it does. Certainly it would be grounds for throwing his rulings in court cases out. Murders would be freed and who knows what all. The marriages would not be invalid from the religious point of view but from the state point of view.
Under the constitution when an expat reclaims his citizenship aren't they reclaiming the orginal citizenship? By taking the oath don't they revert back to their original citizenship?
Why would an expat lose his citizenship?
What happens to children that are born in the US to a natural born mother and a Saudi and the father takes the children and goes back home. If she gets her children back have they lost their citizenship? Do they now become naturalized citizens?
They would not have lose their American citizenship. Remember "Not WIthout My Daughter," that tale of the woman who was kidnapped along with her little girl in Iran by her Iranian husband?
It’s sounds like you and I are on the same page. Freegards!
Sorry, but I don’t see the brave men and women in uniform blindly following orders from freedom-hating leftist overlords to fire on friends and family. There would be massive military revolts before that happened. Ya gotta have faith....
Are you also preparing for a McCain win and the resulting mass amnesty and increase in socialism?
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