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When Good Lizards Go Bad: Komodo Dragons Take Violent Turn
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ^ | August 25, 2008 | YAROSLAV TROFIMOV

Posted on 08/25/2008 5:06:11 PM PDT by Pontiac

The intruder, a Komodo dragon, is the world's largest lizard, an ancient, fierce carnivore found only on a handful of remote islands in eastern Indonesia.

Reaching 10 feet in length, the dragons feed on buffaloes, deer and an occasional human. Just a year ago, a boy about Syarif's age died in a dragon's jaws, his bones smashed against rocks to facilitate reptilian digestion.

These locals have long viewed the dragons as a reincarnation of fellow kinsfolk, to be treated with reverence.

But now, villagers say, the once-friendly dragons have turned into vicious man-eaters. And they blame policies drafted by American-funded environmentalists for this frightening turn of events.

For centuries, local tradition required feeding the dragons -- which live more than 50 years, can recognize individual humans and usually stick to fairly small areas.

Locals say they always left deer parts for the dragons after a hunt, and often tied goats to a post as sacrifice. Island taboos strictly prohibited hurting the giant reptiles, a possible reason why the dragons have survived in the Komodo area despite becoming extinct everywhere else.

Officials at the Nature Conservancy's Indonesian headquarters in Bali dismiss such widespread belief about a connection between the attacks and the ban on feeding the dragons as "superstition." The group and its Komodo subsidiary reject any responsibility for Mansur's death.

The boy "shouldn't have crouched like a prey species in a place where dragons live," says Marcus Matthews-Sawyer, tourism, marketing and communications director at Putri Naga Komodo. "You've got to be very careful about extrapolating and drawing any conclusions."

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: animalrights; environment
No this is not an article about Nancy Polosi. It is about western envoiromentalist wakos sticking their noses in where they don't belong and getting people killed.
1 posted on 08/25/2008 5:08:09 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Pontiac

You gotta read the whole thing. The level of eco-colonial arrogance and disregard for the safety of the local people on the part of these Nature Conservancy clowns is off the hook.

Their ancient custom is never to harm the dragons but if the current course of action holds that is almost certain to change.


2 posted on 08/25/2008 5:11:03 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Pontiac
No this is not an article about Nancy Polosi. It is about western envoiromentalist wakos sticking their noses in where they don't belong and getting people killed.

Didn't know there was a difference.

3 posted on 08/25/2008 5:12:15 PM PDT by Joiseydude
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To: Pontiac
The boy "shouldn't have crouched like a prey species in a place where dragons live," says Marcus Matthews-Sawyer

Yep, that's what I tell my kids ... don't crouch like a prey species in dragon habitat, especially if the dragons haven't had any goats or deer parts lately.

4 posted on 08/25/2008 5:15:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Obama: Can't kill the innocent fast enough, can't free the guilty soon enough!~ Diana in WI)
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To: Tax-chick

Really? That’s almost the exact opposite of what I tell my liberal neighbor with the hot-chick wife: “Betcha can’t crouch like a prey species in dragon habitat, Jeff!”


5 posted on 08/25/2008 5:18:54 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Pontiac

The boy “shouldn’t have crouched like a prey species in a place where dragons live,” says Marcus Matthews-Sawyer, tourism, marketing and communications director at Putri Naga Komodo. “You’ve got to be very careful about extrapolating and drawing any conclusions.”

Wait, isn’t that what you just did?
Liberals.

Oh they will probably declare the lizards an endangered animal, declare their area a wilderness zone, and move all the people out to public housing.


6 posted on 08/25/2008 5:19:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Pontiac

the Komodo Dragon is the leftist mascot.


7 posted on 08/25/2008 5:20:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (when you're bot, you're pwn3d)
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To: All

vump


8 posted on 08/25/2008 5:20:37 PM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Joiseydude
Didn't know there was a difference.

It is a subtle difference to be sure; but the Komodo is much more civilized.

Give them some credit.

9 posted on 08/25/2008 5:21:43 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: sinanju

For centuries, local tradition required feeding the dragons — which live more than 50 years, can recognize individual humans and usually stick to fairly small areas.

Hundreds of years, Baaaaah, natives what do they know!


10 posted on 08/25/2008 5:22:02 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Flycatcher

PING!


11 posted on 08/25/2008 5:22:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: sinanju

> You gotta read the whole thing. The level of eco-colonial arrogance and disregard for the safety of the local people on the part of these Nature Conservancy clowns is off the hook.

Don’t you just love it how Pointy-Headed Intellectuals, once again, know what is best for everybody — even tho’ there is absolutely no reason on earth why they should?

Ask the Average Jue in the street “who knows more about Komodo Dragons: the Pointy-Headed Intellectual from the US, or the villager on Komodo Island who lives with the dragons and whose ancestors have lived there from the beginning of recorded time?” and 100% of the time you know the answer ain’t going to be “The Pointy-Headed Intellectual”.

So how is it that the Pointy-Headed Intellectuals get to run the show over on Komodo Island? Wouldn’t it be more fun to feed one or two of them to the dragons, and make their Pointy-Headed Intellectual friends watch what happens?

It would certainly be more instructional. I bet if they did that, the villagers would be back to feeding the dragons goats and deer in seconds flat.


12 posted on 08/25/2008 5:23:52 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: theDentist

It’s all just natural selection.


13 posted on 08/25/2008 5:24:47 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Obama: Can't kill the innocent fast enough, can't free the guilty soon enough!~ Diana in WI)
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To: Pontiac

” One of the most famous lizard attacks occurred half a world away in 2001, when a Komodo dragon kept by the Los Angeles Zoo tried to ingest the foot of Phil Bronstein, then editor of the San Francisco Chronicle and husband of actress Sharon Stone.”

To paraphrase Sharon - I guess that is just Karma, for being a San Francisco cafe-radical-leftist. Real life tries to take your foot off!


14 posted on 08/25/2008 5:26:03 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
"when a Komodo dragon kept by the Los Angeles Zoo tried to ingest the foot of Phil Bronstein"

That is the first thing that came to mind when I read the title :o)

15 posted on 08/25/2008 5:32:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: tet68
The boy “shouldn’t have crouched like a prey species in a place where dragons live,” says Marcus Matthews-Sawyer, tourism, marketing and communications director at Putri Naga Komodo.

This is just stupid on its surface.

For a Komodo or a salt water Croc there are only prey species. Anything they can clamp their jaws on is prey.

Anyone reading the article can easily discern that the Komodo is an ambush killer. It waits in cover until an animal or human comes with in striking range. The reptilian brain does not distinguish between man and animal.

What a reptilian will learn however is another carnivore which it can follow around and wait for an easy meal of leftovers.

This is exactly what the Komodo used to know when the villagers left deer offal for the dragons.

16 posted on 08/25/2008 5:33:28 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

Komodos don’t seem to get bacterial infections. Consequently, scientists are studying komodo dragons to hopefully find the new antibiotics.


17 posted on 08/25/2008 5:35:25 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Pontiac

18 posted on 08/25/2008 5:35:53 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Pontiac

There is no such thing as a ‘good’ Komodo Dragon (Monitor Lizard)


19 posted on 08/25/2008 5:36:33 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Ask the Average Jue in the street “who knows more about Komodo Dragons: the Pointy-Headed Intellectual from the US, or the villager on Komodo Island who lives with the dragons and whose ancestors have lived there from the beginning of recorded time?” and 100% of the time you know the answer ain’t going to be “The Pointy-Headed Intellectual”.

Good point there

Envirowackos used to always make a point that the American Indians lived in harmony with their environment and worked with nature not against it.

Funny once they gained power and influence all those people who live in harmony with nature are foolish, primitive and superstitious.

20 posted on 08/25/2008 5:39:21 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: valkyry1
There is no such thing as a ‘good’ Komodo Dragon (Monitor Lizard)

Don’t you mean there is no such thing as a “good” Nancy Polosi (Democrat Dragonis).

21 posted on 08/25/2008 5:43:54 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

heh heh ha ha, thats pretty good!


22 posted on 08/25/2008 5:51:36 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Pontiac

there have been a few isolated reports of the Australian version (Goana Lizard) sighted of 14 to 16 feet+ in length.


23 posted on 08/25/2008 6:00:16 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Straight Vermonter; Diana in Wisconsin
Komodos don’t seem to get bacterial infections.

And that's what's so amazing about these giant lizards. They're not venomous, but they might as well be. Their mouths are so saturated with bacteria that when they bite a deer or a goat, they simply let go and wait. In a matter of days, or even hours sometimes, the prey animal will die of gross bacterial infection of the wound.

The villagers are at risk too. Every TV show I've watched about Komodo dragons always shows a few villagers who managed to get bitten. They're invariably amputees now (but they're quite happy to only lose a limb, rather than their life).

Almost better to be bitten by a cobra.

24 posted on 08/25/2008 6:06:14 PM PDT by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: PGR88
” One of the most famous lizard attacks occurred half a world away in 2001, when a Komodo dragon kept by the Los Angeles Zoo tried to ingest the foot of Phil Bronstein, then editor of the San Francisco Chronicle and husband of actress Sharon Stone.”

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/06/11/MN204069.DTL&hw=komodo+dragon&sn=001&sc=1000
“Prior to the incident, Bronstein was wearing white tennis shoes. But because the dragon is fed white rats, the zoo keeper suggested he remove the shoes so the animal did not mistake them for its next meal.”

Looks like Phil knew better than the zoo keeper. :)

25 posted on 08/25/2008 6:08:36 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: PGR88
.”One of the most famous lizard attacks occurred half a world away in 2001, when a Komodo dragon kept by the Los Angeles Zoo tried to ingest the foot of Phil Bronstein, then editor of the San Francisco Chronicle and husband of actress Sharon Stone.”
I rem that, he was wear white socks/shoes while the zoo was inactive (feeding time?); the dragon, thought early "Dinnertime....*chomp* *chomp* *chomp*...Hmmm...Liberal."

....GOOD LIZARD....

26 posted on 08/25/2008 6:31:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (If you aren't "advancing" your arguments,your losing "the battle of Ideas"...libs,hates the facts 8^)
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To: valkyry1
there have been a few isolated reports of the Australian version (Goana Lizard) sighted of 14 to 16 feet+ in length.

Those babies ought to give the lengendary Saltys a run for their money.

27 posted on 08/25/2008 6:31:53 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac

http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/australian_giant_lizard_mainpage.html


28 posted on 08/25/2008 6:36:36 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Pontiac

Put locals on one island, and environmentalists on another. See who survives.


29 posted on 08/25/2008 6:45:03 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Put locals on one island, and environmentalists on another. See who survives.

I t would be an interesting experiment.

Would you like to collaborate on a grant proposal with me.

It shouldn’t be a problem; environmentalist aren’t an endangered species.

30 posted on 08/25/2008 7:02:50 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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And they blame policies drafted by American-funded environmentalists for this frightening turn of events.

Wait until they figure out the whole global warming scam...that's when the shit will hit the fan. The liberals think we're hated now, that's nothing compared to what's inevitably coming...

31 posted on 08/25/2008 9:22:23 PM PDT by csense
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It is about western envoiromentalist wakos sticking their noses in where they don't belong and getting people killed.

Gee, I never heard of that happening before... Until Rachel WhatsHerName and the enviros got DDT completely banned, some headway was being made against malaria. Today, because western nations will place sanctions on any country that uses DDT in even limited areas, more than 1,000,000 people a year die of malaria. Their response? Send mosquito netting so people don't get bitten at night while asleep. But what about the other 18 or so hours in the day?

Well, at least those millions of people who've died of a horrible, preventable disease, all died for a good cause, right?

Mark

32 posted on 08/26/2008 5:11:57 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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Well, at least those millions of people who've died of a horrible, preventable disease, all died for a good cause, right?

Of course it was a good cause; fewer humans on the planet. After all the enviro whackos are Malthusians. We filthy humans are over populating the planet and using up all the resources.

33 posted on 08/26/2008 6:53:16 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: IncPen

Ping

read full article.
Once again trample what works ,in favor of what is unscientifically correct


34 posted on 08/26/2008 1:10:09 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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