back in the 80's one of the first laptops had Windows on a chip, same with Lotus and a couple other programs too... real fast for the day
Posted on 08/16/2008 5:43:25 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
From the "who needs a pre-load when you're embedded" files:
Dude - if you're getting a Dell then you're getting Linux.
No you don't have to order one of those fancy Ubuntu pre-load deals. This is an embedded Linux that will be available on a whole bunch of new Dell Latitude laptops in a feature called Latitude ON. This is a feature that uses an embedded Linux to allow for instant on access to email, calendar and Internet.
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Anyways, it was a huge flop. This is unlikely to be, given that Linux based software is actually capable of instant on. MS just can't seem to get rid of the bloat. Plus, I'm sure this doesn't add much to the cost wheras MS stuff costs you arm plus dog.
The MSI Wind laptop comes preloaded with either Windows XP, or Linux. The Linux version is I think $100 cheaper than if it came with XP.
Though I’m just familiar with how XP feels.
back in the 80's one of the first laptops had Windows on a chip, same with Lotus and a couple other programs too... real fast for the day
pong
Ummmm, huh?
1. Laptop in the 80's? What brand/model?
2. Windows in the 80's? Windows 1.0? Unusable. It wasn't 2.0 until 1990 and that sucked swamp water too. Windows wasn't real until 3.1 around 1993.
3. Windows on a chip? Whose chip?
I don't get what you said at all....
I'm off a little. 2.0 was released in 1987. I started playing with it in 1990, so it was probably a later 2.x version.
And 3.1 was 1992, not 1993.
Nevertheless, I'm astonished that there was something called Windows on a chip in the 80's. Tell me more...
I’ve tasted Dell’s Linux support. In fact I’ve sampled their Windows Vista support, as well.
No thanks.
it was in one of the trade mags... instead of loading windows etc on a hard drive it had half a dozen chip sockets and one of chips had the whole windows os on it, same with Lotus. it was the ultimate copy protection scheme. the thing never took off though. it was supposed to be real fast cause it never had to look at the disk. i only saw the ad a couple times and that was, well, back in the 80's, but i want to say it was called the WinBook. the ad showed the the chip socket bay with the cover off and one of the chips said Lotus on it.
I finally managed to install Ubuntu (from the DVD included in the official book, which states it’s a CD), only took ten tries, four different CPUs, and (on the final machine) five reboots. S’cool.
Windows on a chip...
I seem to remember the same type of thing...a hardwired OS or chip that was to be virus proof, but could be somehow updated at a later date. Sounded like a great idea at the time but nothing came of it.
The old C64 had its OS built in too, but that was little more than Basic.
I can assure you that your experience installing Ubuntu is atypical.
Just out of curiosity, would you mind telling which 4 types of PCs you attempted the install on?
I’ve had that experience with other Linux distros.
I was hoping that the days of having to recompile the kernel were over, but I had to do that recently.
Really?? Why? What did you need to do that you needed to recompile the kernel?
Dude - I do it all the time. Just to make sure it's still possible. Linux is verifiable trust.
I wouldn’t know how to recompile it; the detailed instructions given didn’t match the downloaded desktop environment, on the one occasion I got the “live CD” to work, which was, uh, frustrating. The other times it gave me some kind of error about how the disk wasn’t available or some such lie. Anyway, I finally used a DVD-equipped CPU (a workplace discard, I think it was a Gateway) to start up and install. After the second to last reboot, the newly installed system went back to 640 mode on the 1280 capable monitor (which had worked during “live” use and during the installation). The included gizmo to set screen resolution only offered one option — 640. So I restarted it once more, and it started up in, and stayed in, 1280 mode.
Three Dells and a Gateway, I think. Maybe one was an Omnitech :’), but I doubt it.
Thanks HAL9000.
yup, and since it was it was on a chip, it didn't take up any memory either...
Not correct. There was a reason that the Commodore 64 powered up and displayed around 32k RAM free. The basic interpreter and kernel were copied from ROM into RAM at power up for execution (fetching instructions from RAM is much faster than ROM) and other parts of RAM were used for OS housekeeping, etc.
The bigger games/programs for the C64 would "kick" the basic interpreter out of RAM to get that space free which required restarting the machine when the program finished.
Oh I've done it a couple times myself, but I only did so to see how to do it. Its rare these days to find occasions that one needs to recompile the kernel.
and now, thankfully, memory problems are now mere memories...
Mac, Amiga and Atari ST all had the full OS on a ROM back then. I remember you could run Mac on the ST if you had the Mac ROMs in a cartridge (both were M68K systems, but the ST was clocked a bit higher).
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