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Posted on 08/07/2008 9:57:05 AM PDT by Domandred
Golfing for just the third time, 11-year-old Allan Saylor was whacking the ball around with a friend, not even keeping score. A hole-in-one? No big deal. The sixth-grader fired the ace Wednesday on the 150-yard, par-3 sixth hole at the neighboring Mandan Municipal Golf Course, using a driver borrowed from his buddy.
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"I didn't even know what a hole-in-one was," she said. "We're not golf people."
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Just wanted to post this and say SO NOT FAIR
That's what happens when you play with LUCK.
Tell me about it. I've been playing for more than 50 years and carry a single digit handicap. I play regularly with a group of about 16 other guys, all but one of whom have higher handicaps. I'm the only one without a hole-in-one. And don't think for a minute that I'm not reminded of it on a fairly regular basis.
Womens tee...
Driver on a 150 yd hole...
They made no mention of completing a full round...
Primary witness 11 year old friend...
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Not an ace.
Wow... the same thing almost happened to me... the VERY first time I ever played golf - when I was 12...
On my very first par 3 ever, I hit a shot that landed on the green, took two bounces, hit the pin and landed about 3 feet away...
I remember looking at my dad and saying “I thought you said that this game was hard”...
Of course, I never got close again.
I had to get in only about 3,762 rounds before I casually knocked off a hole-in-one. But who's counting?
> Not an ace.
Awwwww... be nice. It’s a kid, for pete’s sake. He’ll have bragging rights for the rest of his life. Maybe he’ll go on to do great things.
Give it to him. Be gracious, and try to forget how many times an ace has eluded you.
Hole in one, and goodonya kid!
Is too.
No hole-in-one yet, but my 6-year old son has a decent swing, and has beaten me on at least one par 3 hole at the executive 9 I take him to. And no-kidding, if there is golf on TV he prefers to watch it over cartoons. And when its over he grabs his clubs and wacks plastic balls all over the place in the back yard. He once even dug a hole in my lawn and stuck in a bucket for a cup. That did not make me happy. But, if he can go Pro some day and pay off Dad’s house ,I’ll forgive him.
The only hole in one I ever saw started off as a worm burner.
Read the article. Foursome in front of them witnessed it and told the club house before the kids got back.
If they didn’t play 18 its not an ace under USGA rules.
And this whole - come on it’s a kid give him a break - stuff...
Bullhockey - that’s the attitude that is ruining our society.
It is NOT jealousy on my part - he can score it a 1 on the card - fine - but propping up a kid for using a club unfit for the whole and letting him hit from the ladies tees is not teaching him golf and its not teaching him life.
And I take great pleasure in correcting your WHOLE to hole!
bah humbug to you
Not getting laid?
Poor kid will probably be chasing the dragon for the next 60 years.
Well just hunt him down and beat him with a stick. That's how you learn about life!
Or maybe he was just out having fun and doesn't need an uptight rules monger to teach him how to behave like an 11 year old.
So an ace played on 9 holes doesn't count? Wrong. USGA considers it a hole in one if played at least 9 holes.
You are assuming that they only played one hole, but in the article we find that it was at the sixth hole, meaning there were only 3 left till the ninth.
The people playing in front of them got back to the club house before the kids did. You saying those guys quit at the sixth hole as well?
Mandan Municipal Golf Course is only a 9 hole course, so by your 18 hole flawed thinking no holes in one on that course can ever be counted, unless the course is played twice around.
but propping up a kid for using a club unfit for the whole
Unfit for the hole? What the hell is this crap? Doesn't ever say that you must use a 5 iron for a 150 yard par 3. They were off the tee and the driver got the job done. If the kid can only get 150 yards out of a driver he uses the driver. Kid was using his equipment properly to his ability. Now if he had whacked the ball off the tee with a putter then you might have a valid point.
letting him hit from the ladies tees
Whatever. So women aren't allowed to count holes in one? The kid was 11, of course he's gonna use the ladies tee, or do you insist that in order to count an ace he has to swing from the pro level tee?
It is NOT jealousy on my part
Yea it is.
Can't believe I got sucked into this bickering over golf crap, but now that I got a long post may as well post it.
No, really it’s not jealousy. I haven’t been on a golf course in 2 years - I don’t live for golf.
Thank you for the clarification of the 9 hole rule - I admit my error.
Part of my comments were jut being a pain in the tail - stirring the pot, but I really do take issue with the fact that we make these things a big deal.
It’s a kid who got lucky - it’s not an accomplishment. There is a difference. Don’t make it out to be something that it’s not. To me this is like telling someone who hit the lottery what a great investment plan they had...
Been there...
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The 'gallery' took a real long look at me as we walked up together. It was pretty funny. But not to my friend Steve.
Drive, approach, chip, and putt with the one club. Hell, he could hit a 60 degree sand iron 140 yards or more. The club used means nothing anymore, nor has it in a while.
Amateurs and recreational golfers are universally impressed with the length pro golfers can hit the ball. But, I have always maintained that the talent level is way more than length alone. I think that from 175 yards most pros could play any club in their bag depending on the shot demand.
In my very first high school golf match I was tied going to the last hole, a 165 yd par 3. I hit a nice 6 iron to the center of the green. My opponent took out a 3 wood. I figured I had the match won, as there is OB over the green. He proceeded to hit a bad popup shot that landed on the green and went in the hole.
That's your opinion, Mr. Sourgrapes. I had it planned that way, and I beat you fair and square.
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Clearly a violation of Rule 4-4(a) and therefore not an ace.
</grinch>
Congrats, kid! That Ace is the worst thing that could ever have happened to you, because now you're going to be hooked on golf for the rest of your natural life.
If it was borrowed from his buddy during the round, then it was a violation. If he borrowed it before play began and added it to his bag without carrying more than 14 clubs - no foul.
CCW reciprocity- caveman style. That's what caught my eye in this sentence. Very Second Ammendment-ish.
Imagine a fight breaking out on a fairway. I'd say the guy with the two iron has a good chance. The putter could come in handy close-up. As a groin hook. You could use your bag as a shield.
That right there means "not a hole-in-one". At least not an official one. It must happen during a round of at least 9 holes along with a witness. Non the less, it's always fun to hole out a shot even if it's on a practice range. I hope she gets hooked by the game. It's something she can enjoy well into her later years.
I have a golfing question. Often on golf broadcasts I hear an approach shot to the green being referred to as “pin high.” What does that mean, exactly? Thanks in advance.
Butch Cassidy: "First, me and Harvey got to get the rules straight"
Harvey Logan:"Rules??!?!!! In a knife fight??? NO RULES!!!!!"
Butch delivers a strategically placed kick.
Harvey drops to his knees.
Butch Cassidy: "Now that me and Harvey got the rules straight, somebody say one two three go."
The Sundance Kid: "One two three go."
Butch delivers a blow to the side of Haveys' head, rendering him unconscious.
News Carver: "I was routin' for ya all along, Butch."
Butch Cassidy: "Thanks, News. That's what sustained me in my time of trouble."
Aside from the "pin high" comment being made in reference to John Daly, here is my explanation:
If you consider the depth of the green from front (side closest to the tee or approach) to back (side farthest away from tee or approach), if the ball lands on a line with the "pin" or flagstick at roughly the same depth in the green as the "pin" or flagstick, that would be considered "pin high". The alternatives would be to landing "short" of (before) or "long" (after) the pin.
They say this is a game of inches, but I'm not nearly that precise, especially with the approach shots/irons.
I had to go and research this local gal.....always suspected she was full of it.
My best game happened when my crew was late to show, so I took the time to bounce a ball around my backyard- aiming at various trees to get a feel.
I killed about twenty minutes aiming at tree trunks like they were flagpoles. Really short stuff. What I noticed when we hit the course was that this 'newfound respect' for what the ball could do translated into some nice shots at just about any distance off the grass.
The short stuff taught my brain, which then taught my muscles, just how flighty this ball can be. My only worry was shanking one and taking out a window.
Think of it as sort of a 'chipping' green but what you get out of it is plenty of respect for what this little enginerring marvel can do with so little power. Our brains may be equipped to take a 'sample' and use some ancestral algorithm to direct it to the target. Like chucking a spear at a Mammoth from a goodly distance, while aiming for that spot just behind the shoulder.
"I'm not really golfing, I'm spear chucking."
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Actually, I don't mean to nitpick, but I think you may be slightly mistaken on this one part. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the kid could have technically played only seven holes and the "round" would have counted because seven holes is the minimum number of holes required to post a round in calculating a player's handicap. Not that it matters any, the kid still got the ace, but...
Excuse me Mister Grinch, but a hole in one is always luck... be it an 11 year old kid or Tiger Woods.
The more you play and the more consistent you are at hitting the green, the better your luck will be. But every one that drops is pure 'luck.'
I just wonder if they made the kid buy soda pops for the bar after his round. ;~))
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