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Wie takes quintuple bogey, fails to make cut in Reno
ESPN.com ^ | 08/01/2008 | By Staff

Posted on 08/01/2008 2:51:41 PM PDT by C19fan

Michelle Wie's eighth start in a PGA Tour event will not end in her first made cut. Wie shot a second-round 80 in the Legends Reno-Tahoe Open to finish at 9 over par through 36 holes. The cut will be at around even par by the time play ends Friday afternoon. Wie shot an opening-round 73, 1-over par. But a quintuple-bogey nine on the eighth hole (her 17th of the day) ended any hopes of Wie surviving to play the weekend at the par-72 Montreux Golf and Country Club.

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What a joke Miss Wie has become. Maybe she should actually win some tournaments on the LPGA before trying just to make the cut on a PGA event. The Anna Kournikova of golf.
1 posted on 08/01/2008 2:51:41 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Win some tournaments? She can’t even make the cut in LPGA tournaments. At this point she’s a sideshow. Not much different than if those events hired some bikini models to play between the pros to keep the crowd amused.


2 posted on 08/01/2008 2:55:50 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher

She’s the golfing version of Charlotte Church. Good for her age as a teen but not “all that” as an adult.


3 posted on 08/01/2008 2:57:39 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: C19fan
But a quintuple-bogey nine on the eighth hole (her 17th of the day)

Poorly written. I'm guessing she only got through 9 or so holes the 1st day, so she had played her second 9 and was back to the 8th hole for the second round.

But the clear meaning is that she had made 17 quintuple-bogies.

Which, btw, would be a normal golf outing for me.

4 posted on 08/01/2008 2:57:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

There are so many golfers on the first two days of tournaments such as this that half the field tees off on 1 and half the field tees off on 10.


5 posted on 08/01/2008 2:59:17 PM PDT by John W
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To: C19fan

I don’t like your Anna Kournikova comparison. At least Anna’s high-water mark was #8 in the world (in singles, higher in doubles).


6 posted on 08/01/2008 3:00:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: C19fan

She pulled out of the Women’s British Open just to pull this ridiculous stunt.


7 posted on 08/01/2008 3:02:28 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: C19fan; onedoug; cincinnati65; PISANO; IonImplantGuru; Rummyfan; Aussie Dasher; 4woodenboats; ...
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8 posted on 08/01/2008 3:04:12 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The front nine was her ‘back nine’. That’s the way the first 2 rounds are played. Half the field starts on the 1st tee; half on the tenth.


9 posted on 08/01/2008 3:06:52 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Truthsearcher
I'm a Michelle Wie fan. She's got a lovely set of Mizuno drivers. Perfectly weighted. And give her a break, she's just not managed well.


10 posted on 08/01/2008 3:09:47 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: CharlesWayneCT

But a quintuple-bogey nine on the eighth hole (her 17th of the day)

Poorly written


Nope......... Article clearly states she shot a 73 the first day.... The pros go off both tees, 1 & 9, morning and afternoon starts for the first two rounds. She started on the back today and thus the 8th hole on the front was her 17 hole played today.


11 posted on 08/01/2008 3:10:21 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: C19fan
What a joke Miss Wie has become. Maybe she should actually win some tournaments on the LPGA before trying just to make the cut on a PGA event. The Anna Kournikova of golf.

I think that Michelle Wie is mentally unequipped for the professional game. She has the shots, she just manages to find creative ways to fold when the pressure is on (forgetting to sign a scorecard?). I think her insistance on playing against the men is another pressure-avoidance mechanism in that the expectations for her are much lower.

I'm not sure Anna Kournikova ever had the tools to be an elite singles player, so that part of your analogy I might disagree with (ever so slightly).

12 posted on 08/01/2008 3:14:13 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“……she’s just not managed well.”

Mostly by her parents, from what my friends in Hawaii tell me.


13 posted on 08/01/2008 3:16:31 PM PDT by SixIron (Golf and liberal thinking- life's great frustrations)
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To: Truthsearcher

Good thing she has all that sponsor cash.


14 posted on 08/01/2008 3:20:11 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: 1rudeboy; C19fan

I don't like your Anna Kournikova comparison, either.

15 posted on 08/01/2008 3:25:57 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

WOW, nice picture ZE

It took me awhile to get up to her eyes.
She looks pretty good in that follow through ... whoa


16 posted on 08/01/2008 3:28:34 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude () ......Pelosi + Reed = $ 4.00 per gallon......()
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To: John W

OK. Still, I like the idea of 17 quintuple bogies....


17 posted on 08/01/2008 3:34:31 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: C19fan

I never liked her after her nasty lie about another golfer.


18 posted on 08/01/2008 3:37:05 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: deport

It doesn’t matter what it tells you elsewhere. The sentence quoted is poorly constructed: “Wie shot an opening-round 73, 1-over par. But a quintuple-bogey nine on the eighth hole (her 17th of the day) ended any hopes of Wie surviving to play the weekend at the par-72 Montreux Golf and Country Club.”.

By convention, the parenthetical applies to the “quintuple-bogey”, not the “eigth hole”. If they wanted to make it clear, they could have at least said “17th hole of the day”.

For example, in a story about someone picked up for drunk driving after stopping at several bars might say:
“He drank another beer when he stopped at the golden goose (his 8th of the evening).”

You would know that the 8th was his 8th beer, NOT his 8th stop.


19 posted on 08/01/2008 3:39:34 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“Wie shot an opening-round 73, 1-over par.

But a quintuple-bogey nine on the eighth hole (her 17th of the day) ended any hopes of Wie surviving to play the weekend at the par-72 Montreux Golf and Country Club.”


Which one of the above is poorly constructed?...... Pretty straigth forward to me.


20 posted on 08/01/2008 3:48:21 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: C19fan
Flush... that's where ms. Wie's endorsment deals are heading.

Wie = joke.

She needs to make herself useful by getting on top of a table and singing karaoke &/or dancing.

21 posted on 08/01/2008 3:56:20 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Tallguy

22 posted on 08/01/2008 3:57:57 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: deport

“But a quintuple-bogey nine on the eighth hole (her 17th of the day)”

The 8th hole is a location. “Her 17th of the day” cannot refer to the “8th hole”, because she does not have ANY locations, much less 17 of them.

However, she did have a quintuple bogie, so it is clear that it was her 17th quintuple bogie of the day.

Now, you would also think that the “8th hole” might have been how many holes she had played, although a golfer would understand that it is a location. But of course, it wasn’t the 8th hole she played, it was the 17th.

They could have used “at the 8th hole” instead of “on the 8th hole” since “on the” is close to “on her” which would imply it was how many holes she had played.

Of course, the writer recognized this at some level, which is why they threw in the parenthetical statement to “clarify” things.

“But a quintuple-bogie nine at the 8th hole (her 17th hole of the day) ended any hopes” would have made it clear the 17th refered to how many holes she had played, and not how many quintuple-bogies she had had.

Note that most of us realize that you can’t shoot that many quintuple-bogies.

But if it had said “but a bogie on the 8th hole” (her 9th of the day)” would make most of us think she had had 9 bogies, which was why she ended up 9 over par.


23 posted on 08/01/2008 4:04:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
"She's got a lovely set of Mizuno drivers. Perfectly weighted."

Yes, I have to agree with your assessment. She cetainly has the assets to play.

24 posted on 08/01/2008 4:11:01 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Truthsearcher

I was a course marshal a couple times at the McDonald’s LPGA Championships and attened some other LPGA tournaments and I do agree that Wie is more of a side show than a golfer.

She does have a great swing and hits the ball way long but seems to lose it completely when she makes a bad shot – too inside her head and can’t seem to recover from it and I wasn’t impressed with her short game. She seems be very standoffish and to have a bad temper and didn’t interact much with or even acknowledge her fans or other players or even her own caddy. She impressed me as a rather snooty prima-donna.

Of course there was a huge gallery following her along with a big security contingent and hoards of press including a very large contingency of Asian photographers who were by and large very rude to us marshals and other fans and constantly had to be told to get back inside the ropes. And then there was her father who was a constant presence even in the practice rounds where he walked the course with her analyzing and critiquing her every move.

Annika Sorenstam also took a stab at playing with the men but that was long after many years of winning majors on the LPGA tour and a rigorous physical training program. She didn’t make the cut either but comported herself well IMO.


25 posted on 08/01/2008 4:57:24 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
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To: C19fan
Wie takes quintuple bogey, fails to make cut in Reno

Oh woe is Wie........

She is being pushed too hard by her handlers when they should just let her be a teenager.

At this rate she will be nothing but another burned out "I coulda been a contenda" by the time she is 24.....

26 posted on 08/01/2008 5:04:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: CharlesWayneCT

As I said I fully understood what they were saying.....


27 posted on 08/01/2008 5:35:26 PM PDT by deport ( ----Cue Spooky Music---)
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To: C19fan

Whatever happened to Sorenstam (sp) after she played in the men’s tournament?


28 posted on 08/01/2008 5:40:04 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

I don’t think she is playing because she wants to,someone is pushing her to .


29 posted on 08/01/2008 5:51:05 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: C19fan
Memo to Miss Wie: Forget about the PGA; you're not even good enough for the LPGA. Learn to sign your scorecard and win some women's events.
30 posted on 08/01/2008 9:32:24 PM PDT by quark
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To: StormEye
Lovely form, beautiful left wrist. Excellent balance in the turn.


31 posted on 08/02/2008 9:52:54 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Caramelgal
Here's Michelle at the 2008 US Women's Open getting along quite well with the gallery. This must have been one of her better days with the crowd.


32 posted on 08/02/2008 9:56:53 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Caramelgal
I agree - the sideshow is probably difficult for her to handle mentally, and that is largely due to her dad's management. The pre-mature prodigy that isn't. She might have the physical abilities, but this is a mental game as well, "played mainly on a 5 and 1/2 inch course", as Bobby Jones once said.

I spent the past weekend as a walking scorer for our local Nationwide Tour event. Over the course of 4 days, I walked with and scored for 10 different players. To a man, each one was a cordial gentleman, getting along well with fellow players, caddies, tour staff, and volunteers. At the end of each round, all of the players gave me an unsolicited signed ball or glove as well as their thanks for walking along and volunteering.

At that level, on any of the tours, everyone hits it long. Wie might even hit it as long as some of the men. Until she learns to grind, scramble, and (especially) putt as well as her peers, it won't matter. All of these things require at least as much mental ability as physical ability.

33 posted on 08/04/2008 11:08:41 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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