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Soy Linked to Lower Sperm Count (Tree-hugging vegan libs won't reproduce - Good thing ! )
AOL ^ | 7/27/08 | Reuters' Staff

Posted on 07/27/2008 5:40:42 AM PDT by xtinct

Eating a half serving a day of soy-based foods could be enough to significantly lower a man's sperm count, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.

The study is the largest in humans to look at the relationship between semen quality and a plant form of the female sex hormone estrogen known as phytoestrogen, which is plentiful in soy-rich foods.

"What we found was men that consume the highest amounts of soy foods in this study had a lower sperm concentration compared to those who did not consume soy foods," said Dr. Jorge Chavarro of the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, whose study appears in the journal Human Reproduction.

"It was a relatively large difference," Chavarro said in a telephone interview.

Chavarro said studies in animals have linked high consumption of plant-derived estrogens known as isoflavones with infertility, but so far there has been little evidence of their effect in humans. "We wanted to know if it would affect sperm production and could serve as a marker for the effects on the reproductive system," Chavarro said.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: reproduction; soy
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Tree-hugging vegan libs won't reproduce - Good thing !
1 posted on 07/27/2008 5:40:43 AM PDT by xtinct
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I am a bit skeptical. Soy is a major staple of the Japanese diet and they have no sperm count problems. I told my wife about this, who is Japanese, and she seemed a bit skeptical as well. Perhaps there are other parts of their diet that counteract the effect.


2 posted on 07/27/2008 5:48:19 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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Soy is a major staple of the Japanese diet and they have no sperm count problems.

To verify that statement, a study would have to been done on significant numbers of Japanese men eating a traditional Japanese diet, comparing their sperm count to a comparable group of Japanese men eating a diet without soy.

Anyway, although this is an interesting fact, Japan's (and Europe's) death-spiral birthrate is due to deliberate sterility, not low sperm counts.

3 posted on 07/27/2008 5:56:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Support your local reptile vet!)
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To: xtinct

It only takes one. A bbc article I read on the same story said a reduction of 41 percent.


4 posted on 07/27/2008 5:58:07 AM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: rob777
I am a bit skeptical. Soy is a major staple of the Japanese diet

There is a difference, the Japanese typically take their soy in soy sauce and tofu. In both cases the soy is fermented. Here we use it as a protein filler in Atkins chocolate bars and thousands of other ways that the Japanese do not.
5 posted on 07/27/2008 6:11:48 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: xtinct

I wonder if this study was funded by the dairy industry? I drink a glass of vanilla soy milk every night and have made three babies in the past three years, one-year old twins and one on the way! My wife induced me to go mostly veggie and have lost twenty-five pounds. Maybe my sperm count is down but I make up for it (if you know what I mean) thanks to my better health!


6 posted on 07/27/2008 6:14:40 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: xtinct

U.S. researchers= meat ind ad.


7 posted on 07/27/2008 6:22:04 AM PDT by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: rob777

China too. They eat a LOT of soy and there is no sign they are having trouble making kids.


8 posted on 07/27/2008 6:27:01 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: rob777

seafood, and seaweed, ?


9 posted on 07/27/2008 6:31:30 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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Tree-hugging vegan libs won't reproduce - Good thing !

Doesn't seem to have affected the billions of Asians who eat tofu every day.

10 posted on 07/27/2008 6:54:19 AM PDT by mngran2
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I used to work with married guys at the airport who believed if one stood in front to the plane’s radar during testing, it would lower their sperm count. They tried to get the treatment done every week, before their days off.....


11 posted on 07/27/2008 7:08:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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“I am a bit skeptical.”

And you offer perfect evidence as to why you should be.

These “doctors” tend to get their conclusions backwards.

Soy doesn’t cause the low sperm count.

Men with low sperm counts choose to consume soy.


12 posted on 07/27/2008 7:09:34 AM PDT by ryan71 (Boring, normal, mainstream, white guy)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Soy sauce == fermented
Tofu == not fermented


13 posted on 07/27/2008 7:13:10 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: rob777

When soybeans are used in a fermented food such as soy sauce or miso, then it is very good for you. When soybeans are used in any other way that doesn’t remove the phytates from the bean, then it is bad. And sperm count is only one of the many bad effects of eating non-fermented soy.


14 posted on 07/27/2008 7:14:34 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: ryan71

I just sprayed my tea all over the table. I can’t stop chuckling....

I apologize in advance. I will be stealing this response and using it every chance I get. It is brilliant.

I’m still chuckling....


15 posted on 07/27/2008 7:15:58 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: rob777; mngran2; ryan71; Dr. Sivana; Tax-chick

Check out this other work about the dangers of soy:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/ploy.html


16 posted on 07/27/2008 7:20:17 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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Very informative. DP goes through phases of drinking soy milk, but I’m sure I’d be expecting post-haste if I relied upon lower sperm counts. (*aspira*)


17 posted on 07/27/2008 7:32:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. Support your local reptile vet!)
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To: krb

Considering the source of that “report”, no thanks.


18 posted on 07/27/2008 7:38:18 AM PDT by mngran2
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To: mngran2

You should argue the facts, not the man. The dangers of soy have been documented for decades by many different sources, and you would serve yourself well to get as educated as you can in order to make wise choices for your family.

Soybeans are pushed hard by agribusiness as a magic food, not because of the nutrition, but because of how easy they are to grow and how durable and transportable are the foods you can make out of them. This is, of course, the same crowd that pushes high-fructose corn syrup as the sweetener to cure all that ails us!


19 posted on 07/27/2008 7:49:18 AM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: rob777
I am a bit skeptical. Soy is a major staple of the Japanese diet and they have no sperm count problems. I told my wife about this, who is Japanese, and she seemed a bit skeptical as well. Perhaps there are other parts of their diet that counteract the effect.

I've heard it said that the Japanese and Chinese don't actually consume Soy as-is, but they ferment it. Fermenting might neutralise the oestrogen-like compounds.

Maybe the rest of the world swallowed the whole thing with a poor translation, and will suffer for it.

20 posted on 07/27/2008 8:44:19 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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