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Young, Gay and Murdered
Newsweek ^ | 7-20-08 | Andrew Murr and Jennifer Ordoņez

Posted on 07/20/2008 9:25:44 PM PDT by Marie2

At 15, Lawrence King was small—5 feet 1 inch—but very hard to miss. In January, he started to show up for class at Oxnard, Calif.'s E. O. Green Junior High School decked out in women's accessories. On some days, he would slick up his curly hair in a Prince-like bouffant. Sometimes he'd paint his fingernails hot pink and dab glitter or white foundation on his cheeks. "He wore makeup better than I did," says Marissa Moreno, 13, one of his classmates. He bought a pair of stilettos at Target, and he couldn't have been prouder if he had on a varsity football jersey. He thought nothing of chasing the boys around the school in them, teetering as he ran.

But on the morning of Feb. 12, Larry left his glitter and his heels at home. He came to school dressed like any other boy: tennis shoes, baggy pants, a loose sweater over a collared shirt. He seemed unhappy about something. He hadn't slept much the night before, and he told one school employee that he threw up his breakfast that morning, which he sometimes did because he obsessed over his weight. But this was different. One student noticed that as Larry walked across the quad, he kept looking back nervously over his shoulder before he slipped into his first-period English class. The teacher, Dawn Boldrin, told the students to collect their belongings, and then marched them to a nearby computer lab, so they could type out their papers on World War II. Larry found a seat in the middle of the room. Behind him, Brandon McInerney pulled up a chair.

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Contrary to stereotype, I am desperately sorry for this kid. He was failed all the way through. Anyone acting in the sexually and psychologically freakish way that he was should have been receiving serious intervention.

I can't believe the kids at school were expected to tolerate his sexual harassment, either.

Another victim of the gay agenda, IMO. Once the adults are thoroughly taken in, we move on to the children, I guess.

1 posted on 07/20/2008 9:25:45 PM PDT by Marie2
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To: Marie2
One study found that the average age when kids self-identify as gay has tumbled to 13.4

Wow! They got it down to a decimal point. That is some real dedicated studying there, studiers.

2 posted on 07/20/2008 9:35:49 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: Marie2

A tragedy, but I can understand how the young, immature shooter might be provoked if he was hit on by the sexually confused boy.

The homosexual boy should have been disciplined or prosecuted for sexual harassment.


3 posted on 07/20/2008 9:38:31 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Marie2
Sorry. There are lots of things we despise that in a free society we have to, at most politely ignore. Obnoxious white cap wearing Jock-straps annoyed me in high school, but I just told them to (expletive) off and ignored them.

The kid was obviously starved for attention, like so many other kids his age. This does NOT mean that he should be killed just because some mouth breather hated his lifestyle.

4 posted on 07/20/2008 9:39:48 PM PDT by Clemenza ("You know, it's one thing about intellectuals. They prove that you can be absolutely brilliant and h)
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To: SeaHawkFan
The homosexual boy should have been disciplined or prosecuted for sexual harassment.

If he merely flirted, then nothing should have been done. If it was part of an aggressive pattern of harassment, then yes, he should have been disciplined.

The "macho" punk who shot him deserves a pineapple up his a-s. If the kid was truly aggressive, a fist to the head would have been sufficient. Methinks someone was uncomfortable with his own sexuality.

5 posted on 07/20/2008 9:43:06 PM PDT by Clemenza ("You know, it's one thing about intellectuals. They prove that you can be absolutely brilliant and h)
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To: Marie2
One teacher was very protective of Larry, his English teacher, Mrs. Boldrin. To help Larry feel better about moving to Casa Pacifica, she brought Larry a present: a green evening dress that once belonged to her own daughter. Before school started, Larry ran to the bathroom to try it on. Then he showed it to some of his friends, telling them that he was going to wear it at graduation.

OMG Words fail me.
6 posted on 07/20/2008 9:43:42 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Clemenza

The kid was obviously starved for attention, like so many other kids his age. This does NOT mean that he should be killed just because some mouth breather hated his lifestyle.

I dont think that it was the lifestyle, I think it was the harrassment.


7 posted on 07/20/2008 9:44:26 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING, NOT for the GOP, but INSTEAD, for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY!!)
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To: Perchant
Who knew Larry King was gay?

"Brandon fired at Larry a second time, tossed the gun on the ground and calmly walked through the classroom door."


8 posted on 07/20/2008 9:44:34 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Marie2
"Ventura County prosecutors charged a 14-year-old boy with the shooting death of a classmate..."

(Lawrence) "King, 15, was declared brain-dead and was expected to be taken off a ventilator late Thursday so organs could be removed for donation... King was shot in the head early Tuesday in a classroom full of students at E.O. Green Junior High School."

latimes.com

9 posted on 07/20/2008 9:48:13 PM PDT by Daaave ("Where it all ends I can't fathom my friends")
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To: Clemenza

Did you read the article? Nowhere does it mention that Brandon hated Larry’s “lifestyle”.


10 posted on 07/20/2008 9:48:54 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: ChocChipCookie
I agree. But shooting somebody for being annoying is NEVER JUSTIFIED, as tempting as it may be sometimes.

Larry was an annoying little twerp. If he crossed the line into aggressive harassment, then discipline was needed.

Methinks little Brandon was insecure and needed to prove his manhood. He won't be the first to go to the pokey for letting testosterone get in the way of reasoning (nor will he be the last).

12 posted on 07/20/2008 9:51:12 PM PDT by Clemenza ("You know, it's one thing about intellectuals. They prove that you can be absolutely brilliant and h)
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To: Clemenza
If he merely flirted, then nothing should have been done. If it was part of an aggressive pattern of harassment, then yes, he should have been disciplined.

Had you read the article, you would not have made this statement.

13 posted on 07/20/2008 9:54:13 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Marie2

After reading the article...being a distracting gay was the least of his problems.


14 posted on 07/20/2008 9:56:28 PM PDT by Coffee200am ("We should all be living in mud huts and riding bicycles to avoid killing the polar bears..."/s)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Yes, I went back and reviewed the article. His actions were like that of an aggressive panhandler and (as I said in my last post) he should have been disciplined. The kid who shot him, however, remains lower than an animal, IMHO.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 9:58:17 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Clemenza
I agree. But shooting somebody for being annoying is NEVER JUSTIFIED, as tempting as it may be sometimes.

It went far beyond annoying, and with the apparent approval of an assistant principal.

So, what would you charge him with. Involuntary manslaughter might be appropriate. Never going to get first or second degree murder in this situation.

16 posted on 07/20/2008 10:00:02 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Marie2

I think your analysis is right on the money.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 10:01:57 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Clemenza

If the homosexual boy had received some appropriate therapy, the shooter likely wouldn’t have shot him. The shooter is no more screwed up than the homosexual boy.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 10:02:15 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Marie2

This is such an incredibly sad story. Both these kids came from absolutely horrible homes. There were teachers who were truly concerned about the victim but,sadly,there were others only interested in using him to promote an agenda.


19 posted on 07/20/2008 10:06:28 PM PDT by Krankor (N)
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To: Clemenza

Id say he sounded more like an obessive stalker. Im not saying this young man deserved to die, however his actions justified a much stronger response from the administration. Supposing he had been straight and the object of his affection a female, would the adminstration have treated him the same way? Also, apparently the shooter came from a less than stellar enviroment as well.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 10:07:28 PM PDT by ScoutingDad (On My Honor..Timeless Values)
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To: Chickensoup
If you read the article, it seems the victim was the agressor.
21 posted on 07/20/2008 10:08:47 PM PDT by ScoutingDad (On My Honor..Timeless Values)
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To: Krankor

The only teachers who truly tried to help him were the ones who told him to wash off his makeup. The dyke vice-principal obviously egged him on, thus compounding his problems at school, which led to his murder. Of course she’ll blame it on “homophobic” teachers and students. Sad all the way around, but Ms. Epstein definitely had a hand in the way it ended. Very interesting that the day of his murder he came to school dressed as a boy.


22 posted on 07/20/2008 10:11:32 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Marie2

It only proves to me that many public school districts are out of control. Search all you like for individual right or wrong in this case, but it is all due to cultural chaos that is taking place in public schools.

Teachers and administrators have morphed into politicians, activists or lawyers. The superintendent, who blamed “the system” and the gay assistant principal are perfect examples.


23 posted on 07/20/2008 10:14:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Clemenza

The school all but gave Larry free reign according to the article. It was perfectly OK for him to do whatever he wanted without discipline. That was the source of the problem but a perfect reflection of the landscape: gays and minority groups have special rights even if they are engaging in bigotry and harassment to the point of taunting and near assault.

I’m not justifying the shooting at all, but the motivation? Who knows for sure. I don’t, you don’t. You push a troubled kid up to the wall and they will snap because in general they feel helpless that the system will do anything for them, all you can hope is that it won’t end up like this case did.

If it had been me I’d have warned the kid once to knock it off and then it’d be game on. He’d either gotten expelled or I’d have smacked him upside the head a couple of times. Life is a two way street, and you respect other people’s space.


24 posted on 07/20/2008 10:15:33 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: Marie2

I think you unpacked this whole mess rather well. It’s tragic on both sides. The school was likely afraid to discipline him and I think you will find that rather common throughout the US educational system when it comes to a minority or protected class. It is politically correct to the point of absurdity. I dare say, had he been wearing a cross it would have been considered a distraction, yet a boy wearing stiletto heels and chasing other boys around wasn’t.


25 posted on 07/20/2008 10:17:30 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Our Sun, The Hottiest Planet!)
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To: Clemenza
I hope the little pale faced

Where does the anti-whitey hostility come from?

26 posted on 07/20/2008 10:24:20 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: Clemenza
I hope the little pale faced punk gets gang raped

God help us all.

27 posted on 07/20/2008 10:26:31 PM PDT by grasshopper2
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To: Clemenza
I hope the little pale faced punk gets gang raped by Surenos at Vacaville

What a nasty, evil comment. Not sure what, exactly, to think of its' author.
28 posted on 07/20/2008 10:34:31 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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Not sure what, exactly, to think of its' author.

He's fantasizing it. That's as far as I can figure it out.

29 posted on 07/20/2008 10:41:35 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: Marie2

this is so sad. My gut tells me that these two boys may have been initimate and after the ‘act’, that was just to much for the straight boy to handle. That is why Larry dressed as a boy on the day he was murdered. It was probably his first time with a young man and he didn’t know how to handle it either. It wasn’t what was portrayed by television, media, and the society. How sad for both of them and all those who knew them.


30 posted on 07/20/2008 10:46:09 PM PDT by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Marie2

Oh god, here it comes.

Right wing nut cases .....homophobes....bigoted nation...and on and on and on.

I find it interesting that the Principal (who’s job is to keep the peace and quell problems) is passing the buck on to a society of guns that needs more social programs filled with more people who will pass the buck, etc.


31 posted on 07/20/2008 11:03:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Marie2

“One teacher was very protective of Larry, his English teacher, MRS. Boldrin. [CAPS mine] To help Larry feel better about moving to Casa Pacifica, she brought Larry a present: a green evening dress that once belonged to her own daughter.”

Let’s redefine ‘contributing to the delinquency of a minor,’ shall we?


32 posted on 07/20/2008 11:10:15 PM PDT by Ben Reyes (Exodus 21:22-25 --- it's a child, not a choice.)
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To: Free Vulcan

This whole matter is the school’s fault. The schools by pushing their “Day of Silence” and Gay-Straight Alliance clubs are encouraging children to “come out”. These are not student-driven events. The schools are forcing confrontations like these. Well, one of the kids just pushed back. Ms. Epstein should be fired and charged with corrupting a minor. A child’s sexuality is none of the State’s damned business! Both of these children were victims.


33 posted on 07/20/2008 11:11:45 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Judges are not above the Constitution. Remove them when they violate it.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Sorry, but if this jackass could be provoked to murder for being hit on by a guy, he’s obviously too mentally unstable to last in society.

He would probably be the same jackass who wants to start a fight with someone who accidentally bumped into him on the street, or would be the same jerkoff who would take something innocuous and turn it into something extremely offensive to him and start a fight over it.


34 posted on 07/20/2008 11:58:03 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Marie2

We don’t hear about what Larry might have done to the shooter to provoke him.

Was grabbing the kid’s butt? Was he talking about how he and the shooter could be ‘an item’.

There is more to this story than an innocent gay boy being shot.


35 posted on 07/21/2008 2:28:14 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Marie2

36 posted on 07/21/2008 3:02:56 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Clemenza
This is one of the few rare cases in which I think that the most culpable is the school!

This does not mean that the shooter should not be prosecuted, he should. But the whole school failed both students, in fact they failed the whole student body. Everyone knew that Larry was far beyond a distraction, yet they allowed it to continue because they were afraid of the backlash. The assistant principal should be culpable. She not only condoned the bullying behavior of Larry, she seemed to encourage it.

If a child decides he is gay, I think the school must make sure he or she is "protected" from persecution, but in this case the persecuted became the bully, and that should never ever be accepted.

To me, this story is not as much about homosexuality, but instead about a distracting teen that found a way to be the center of attention, and no one stopped him. There is even question if Larry was actually gay, or if he just used the agenda to further his attention getting behavior.

This, in no way, means that Brandon (the shooter) should not be punished, he should be to the fullest extent of the law, but the school should be punished also. Both students were had troubled backgrounds, and both lives are now gone.

37 posted on 07/21/2008 4:09:17 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: Bon mots
Read the article, you will see that yes, Larry did hit on him, but I seriously hope you are not suggesting that if you are "hit" upon by a homosexual you have the right to kill him?

Larry should have been punished for his stalking like behavior, but Brandon (the shooter) had no justification what so ever to shoot him. Murder can never be justified.

38 posted on 07/21/2008 4:15:29 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: Clemenza

OMG, we’ve read stories about 6 yr. olds being charged with sexual harassment for hugging, middle schoolers being charged with sexual harassment for swatting girls on the rear end and yet this confused boy thought it was okay day in and day out harass the other boy.

This is a terrible story about adults being too frightened to deal with a volatile situation.

Kids need boundries, whether they are gay or not. Middle school is hard enough, it is an awkward time for all kids. I’m sorry but allowing Larry to act out the way he did was wrong. Do I think he deserved to be killed? No, but please this whole situation was out of control because of a political agenda.


39 posted on 07/21/2008 4:28:12 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Marie2
In January, he started to show up for class at Oxnard, Calif.'s E. O. Green Junior High School decked out in women's accessories. On some days, he would slick up his curly hair in a Prince-like bouffant. Sometimes he'd paint his fingernails hot pink and dab glitter or white foundation on his cheeks. "He wore makeup better than I did," says Marissa Moreno, 13, one of his classmates. He bought a pair of stilettos at Target, and he couldn't have been prouder if he had on a varsity football jersey. He thought nothing of chasing the boys around the school in them, teetering as he ran.

Firstly, nobody, nobody deserves to be hurt or killed for what they believe.

Secondly, if a straight person acted this way (i.e. an absolutely screaming, mincing, over-the- top queen) they would be accused of making fun of homosexuals, and would be "re-educated" in compulsive diversity training.

Thirdly, part of what killed this kid was a society so absolutely starstruck with "tolerance" as a virtue that it would let him get to this age without telling him "kid, nobody likes a freak and a moron and you are going to have to act like a normal human being, at least in public."

And fourthly, fifty years ago, his parents would have had him at a psychologist within two heartbeats of his first "teetering" outbreak, scared to death that they had produced a little homo, and the doctor would have counseled him and treated him in an effort to deal with his obvious (back then) psychological disorder.

40 posted on 07/21/2008 4:42:32 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: Marie2

Sometimes a tragedy is just that.

A tragic life.

A tragic death.

Nothing more.


41 posted on 07/21/2008 4:46:10 AM PDT by RangerM (Barack Obama: CHANCE.....We Can't Afford To Take!)
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To: SeaHawkFan
I agree with you. What some people are forgetting is that kid that was being harassed was also most likely being given a hard time by his friends who were most likely busting his chops constantly because the little queer was obsessed with this kid.
So, he was probably completely miserable and at his wits end feeling as if he had no friends anymore. I'm not saying the shooting was justified at all but if he had beaten up little queenie, then he would have been charged with a hate crime anyway and still have ended up in the calaboose.
You can't win with the gay agenda types, no matter what you just end up bending over and taking it.
42 posted on 07/21/2008 4:55:23 AM PDT by Brainhose (No Fro In 08)
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To: ScoutingDad

I dont think that it was the lifestyle, I think it was the harrassment.

I agree. If the powers that be want to protect young homosexuals they will need to teach the adolescents not to hit on hetrosexual males. Just like we teach girls not to be sexually open to dangerous and deviant males.


43 posted on 07/21/2008 5:58:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING, NOT for the GOP, but INSTEAD, for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY!!)
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To: SeaHawkFan
The shooter is no more screwed up than the homosexual boy.

gonna have to major league disagree with you on this point. Larry, the gay kid, put a bullet in no one's head. Brandon did, which demonstrates exactly how screwed up he was. Putting a bullet in another's head is in now way warranted or justified by what went on here.

44 posted on 07/21/2008 7:31:31 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Chickensoup

I agree, too. If he was a straight guy who was harassing a girl, I don’t think the girl would have got into as much trouble for shooting him (however, if it was a girl harassing a guy who ended up shooting her, the guy would have still got in a lot of trouble, cause we’ve got double standards all around). I think that kids should just be taught ‘this is sexual harassment, it’s not acceptable, regardless of gender or orientation’ straight up, maybe in 4th or 5th grade, so when puberty kicks in, they know some boundaries.

And I don’t think it’s them hitting on straight guys that’s a problem, but repeatedly hitting on someone who’s not interested - gay guys generally have pretty good gaydar, but they even make mistakes sometimes, or the person in question hasn’t come out yet. For example, if another girl hit on me, my answer would be “No thanks, I’m straight”. One time to find out if the other party is or isn’t interested is OK, anything beyond that is uncalled for.


45 posted on 07/21/2008 8:52:51 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Marie2
Excuse me but as a teen with 2 homosexual friends, I have to say that - teens need to be accepted for what they are. My 2 friends HATES the way gays are when shown on TV or when you see those GAY PRIDE Parades.

Lawrence King is 180 degrees from my friends. They are dressed at school the way I am - CONSERVATIVLY - Jeans, polo shirts, sneakers - not the way Lawrence King dresses.

Brandon McInerney is a HOMOPHOBE. People like that need to be tolerent of others. Yes, my friends and I are conservatives - and I would love to tell Brandon the HOMOPHOBE what I think of him - AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM!!!

46 posted on 07/21/2008 9:00:34 AM PDT by RightWingTeen (Caution: homeschooled teen with a Brain that works - LIBERALS you can't control me!!)
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To: codercpc
Larry should have been punished for his stalking like behavior, but Brandon (the shooter) had no justification what so ever to shoot him. Murder can never be justified.

No but it can be explained.
He ended up in a place for troubled teens, and sexually harassing them with the most disgusting behavior can easily push them over the edge. It's not the first time a freak pushed someone over the edge with their sexual predation.

Teachers should have seen it coming... but if they couldn't stop the kid from poking holes in his room with a screwdriver, they probably couldn't stop him from grabbing butts and crotches either.

47 posted on 07/21/2008 9:05:46 AM PDT by Bon mots
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