Posted on 07/07/2008 6:41:21 AM PDT by Soliton
Never before has an antibiotic been tested this way. "In the history of antibiotic development, an antibiotic arrives on the scene, and sooner or later resistant bacteria emerge," Tomasz says. "We sought to test in advance which would win this particular chess game: the new drug, or the bacteria that now cause human deaths."
Ceftobiprole won. "It just knocked out the cells 100 percent,"
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...
Well now let’s force the pharmaceutical companies to sell it for a nickel a dose because they make “obscene profits” and “we have a right to health care” < /sarcasm> Sarcasm tag needed for the Obama supporters and those who pray for Teddy Kennedy on this forum.
Ohhhh but what about the poooor liddle bacterias?!? Don’t they have a right to exist in our eco-structure without being murdered by the genocidal scientists who think it’s ok to just wipe out bacteria without even ASKING them how they feel about it?
[ok, quit channeling enviromental-wacko-mystical-bug-hugging activist]
I’ve had MRSA, it sent me to the ER.
THANK YOU SCIENTISTS!!!!!
Saying a little prayer for the comfort of a dying man, whom you disagree with politically doesn’t make you a liberal. That you can’t seperate his policy from him just being a dying man makes me a little sad for you. I suppose you’ll be celebrating his death like libs did when Reagan died. Cheers to you.
I don’t understand how scientists can be so smart about things like this and so stupid about evolution and global warming. It’s a bit of a mystery.
Now, if doctors will just refrain from ever, ever prescribing any antibiotic, let alone this one that is effective against MRSA and the like, to willfully ignorant patients who insist upon an antibiotic for a virus, we’ll be getting somewhere. Additionally, doctors need to ensure that any correctly prescribed course of antibiotics is completed by following up and checking to see if the bacterial infection is indeed cleared up, rather than leaving bacteria that could form resistance to that particular antibiotic and possibly spread.
Bacteria have every bit as much right as us to live. Who are we to judge their culture?
Saying a little prayer for the comfort of a dying man
His policies aside, for his personal life that man will need all the prayers he can get and the best Gilli suit that money can buy to sneak through the Pearly Gates.
That logic is ... strained.
I would nominate this article as the most significant story of the current century.

Bacterium is cute.
I really hope that people like Kennedy who would deny me my ability to use my life savings (those savings that they haven't already plundered to pay for other peoples' children, health care, housing, etc.) to purchase health care in my old age get the absolute best of everything at my expense. Like you, I say a little prayer just hoping that he will continue to destroy my freedom and confiscate my hard earned wealth. I say this because like you I think that once a person gets sick, then an entire lifetime of evil doing is immediately washed away and his illnes transforms him into a paragon to be treasured or at least given the absolute best of health care at again my expense.
And then I'll sanctimoniously lecture anyone who sees Kennedy as an amoral evil libertine who is one of the principal drivers behind the destruction of freedom and the rise of statism in America reminding them that he is (probably) dying and now he should be pitied and how sad it is for them not to see him as a wonderful human being.
Live and let divide, I say.
Me too. this is great news
You have a sick sense of humanity to have a kindred soul with such a kind person and you comparison of Kennedy with Reagan is absolutely outrageous! Did you say your prayers for Pol Pot too?
Now if they could only find an effective agent against the fast-spreading RINOvirus....
What they need to do is come up with a Virus-cide that works.. So far bupkis..
Seconded. I would rank finding cures for viruses, a working quantum computer, instantaneous information transfer, and oh, say FTL travel (wishful thinking) to upset this title in the future.
Bacteria will eventually beat this one also, if medical practice doesn’t change. Not to mention the mischief that will be caused by wiping out all the gut flora.
Interesting times ahead.
They have.
The problem is that a virus isn't really "alive" to kill, it's just bits of DNA that "reprogram" living cells to reproduce itself. So, we're stuck with trying to block them from entering cells, or trying to block replication once they're in cells.
Sounds like something PETA would put out, doesn't it.
I've tried to avoid taking antibiotics unless absolutely necessary, because of this. I've had to eat live culture yogurt for weeks before, to get over the effects.
I just recovered from eight months of the runs after a dose of antibiotics. This is tricky stuff. There are apparently ways to repopulate your gut, but they aren’t considerd unless you are nearly dead.
If Super-antibiotics become common, we’ll need to rethink all this.
I’ll take a Gram of whatever you are having.
Not to mention the mischief that will be caused by wiping out all the gut flora.
Yea, I wonder exactly how broad this broad-spectrum antibiotic really is? Too broad, not too practical.
Maybe it does this in the lab, but I doubt it will hit this in the field.
That’s absolutely funny. Thanks for the morning chuckle.
So how did MRSA treat you?
I do a lot of grappling (Judo, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and submission wrestling) and picked it up off the mats.
I had a little pimple thing next to my knee that was nothing. A week later my entire leg was swollen and red and an ER doc was cutting a hole in my leg to drain it running an IV of antibiotics. It was not a fun experience at all.
I don't believe "its hopeless" is a good tactic.. Since nothing has been found to combat them.. thats what it seems your saying.. How do PLANTS deal with viruses?.. Surely SOME plant has outwitted them?..
I’m not saying that it’s hopeless. I’m just noting the particular challenge that creating an effective antiviral faces. It’s difficult to “kill” something that is not alive in any classical sense, until it coopts a cell in order to reproduce.
I thought I had gangrene, and had never heard of MRSA. I suppose that if I had waited any longer I would have ended up in a hospital.
A Blessing For Ted Kennedy:
May God bless and keep the Senator... far away from us!
It’s a cephalosporin and the bacteria will eventually get a handle on it as they have on others in its class. But for now...death to staph!
It is irresponsible for a doctor to prescribe an antibiotic without also prescribing a probiotic but they just won’t do it. I’ve had a couple of relatives near death because of doctors’ stupidity on this subject.
Does Intravenous Vit C cure MRSA, as well as lots of other infections? It very well may. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GFRD,GFRD:2007-22,GFRD:en&q=intravenous+Vit+C%2c+MRSA
Amen brother!
I know you don't, but that's okay. Science works. It always works. AGW and ID/creationism aren't science; they are religions. You seem like a thinking person. From now on instead of using science-based birth control, pray that pregnancy doesn't occur. Let us know how that works out for ya.
I don't think everybody gets it. It is a shift in paragigm. We were on the defensive; now we are on the attack. It's pre 9/11 vs. post 9/11. Take the initiative and kill 'em where they live.
You can't kill what isn't alive. We can destroy every virus we know, but you severely injure or kill the host. Believe in science and capitalism. They will find a way.
The article isn't about the drug, but a new preemptive approach. When the bacteria evolve, we will already have the weapon ready to destroy them. Ultimately they will disapeear from the earth. Yea science!
The plant strategy for dealing with disease is to cut off food and water to the effected area and let it die and grow around it. Not a viable strategy for an animal. That is like saying “My foot has a fungus” and the Dr. says “cut off your foot”.
I have given this quite a bit of thought.
If I understand virii correctly, they attach themselves to cells and then inject their DNA into the cells, which forces the cells to manufacture more of the virus.
If scientists could manufacture a "friendly" virus that would attach itself only to "evil" virii and inject their friendly DNA, then in theory evil virii could be wiped out.
Also, I know that virii can/will attach only to specific types of cells (or locations in the body), so it may be possible to manufacture friendly virii that seek out specific evil virii.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but if you aren't, I doubt it. and I doubt if it's desirable.
We are symbiotic with countless bacteria. A better approach in the long run would be to strengthen populations of harmless bacteria, ones that can keep the baddies in check.
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