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Tropical Storm Bertha
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Posted on 07/03/2008 7:20:52 AM PDT by nwctwx



This will be official at 11am EDT. Was recently named TD2. Furthest east a storm has formed so early, replaces... Bertha of 1996.


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1 posted on 07/03/2008 7:20:53 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: NautiNurse

ping.


2 posted on 07/03/2008 7:21:28 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: All


Should be a fish storm.. sign of likely very active Cape Verde season.
3 posted on 07/03/2008 7:23:39 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

I’ve never heard the term “fish storm” before...


4 posted on 07/03/2008 7:26:18 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: nwctwx

Should be good enough to raise old prices about $5 a barrel today.


5 posted on 07/03/2008 7:27:37 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: theDentist

haha, perhaps a weather forum term. basically means it won’t affect many besides the fish.


6 posted on 07/03/2008 7:29:52 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx
"Was recently named TD2. Furthest east a storm has formed so early, replaces... Bertha of 1996."

Our first weather satellite was Vanguard 2 launched late in 1959. That would have been the first year we would have been able to detect a storm like this. We had one named storm in May and one in June last year. We are ahead of the curve this year.

7 posted on 07/03/2008 7:37:17 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: nwctwx

D’uhhhh! That makes sense now. Sholda realized that.


8 posted on 07/03/2008 7:40:48 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: nwctwx
Should be a fish storm.

Models seem to back that up, at the moment.

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9 posted on 07/03/2008 7:43:04 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: nwctwx

Where is the Bermuda High?


10 posted on 07/03/2008 7:49:29 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
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To: nwctwx

I’ve heard that water temps are fairly low this year. Since water temp is what feeds these storms its expected to be a slow/weak season. At least thats what they are telling us here in Florida.

Of course that wont make insurance or oil prices go down so we wont hear about it.


11 posted on 07/03/2008 7:51:29 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: nwctwx

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on July 03, 2008
...Second tropical storm of the 2008 Atlantic season forms in the
far eastern Atlantic near the Cape Verde Islands...
...Outer rainbands affecting the southern Cape Verde Islands...

interests in the southern Cape Verde Islands should monitor the
progress of Bertha.

For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.

At 1100 am EDT...1500z...the center of Tropical Storm Bertha was
located near latitude 13.3 north...longitude 24.7 west or about 190
miles...310 km...south-southwest of the Cape Verde Islands.

Bertha is moving toward the west-northwest near 14 mph...22 km/hr.
This general motion is expected to continue over the next couple of
days.
Maximum sustained winds are near 40 mph...65 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some gradual strengthening is forecast during the next day
or two.

Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 35 miles...55 km
from the center.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 1006 mb...29.71 inches.

While the center of Bertha will be moving away from the southern
Cape Verde Islands today...outer rainbands are expected to bring
locally heavy rainfall and gusty winds to portions of the Cape
Verde Islands during the next 24 hours.

Repeating the 1100 am EDT position...13.3 N...24.7 W. Movement
toward...west-northwest near 14 mph. Maximum sustained winds...40
mph. Minimum central pressure...1006 mb.

The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at
500 PM EDT.

$$
Forecaster Brown


12 posted on 07/03/2008 7:57:07 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: VeniVidiVici

Recently we’ve had a big ridge out in the western U.S., and that typically leads to a trough of low pressure somewhere in the east. Outside a brief buildup in early June we have not seen any real prolonged Bermuda or southeast ridge.

There are some indications that we start seeing more ridging in the east by mid-late month, but quite likely too late to help (if it could at all) move this system to close to the U.S.

Even in prime Cape Verde season storms that form this far east are difficult to get to the mainland U.S. It is probably at least a sign we are going to go deep into the alphabet this season though.


13 posted on 07/03/2008 8:00:21 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

Tropical Storm Bertha Discussion Number 2

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on July 03, 2008

this mornings visible satellite imagery show that the cloud pattern
has become better organized with two distinct spiraling bands
of deep convection. Dvorak intensity estimates from TAFB and SAB
are 35 kt....therefore the system has been upgraded to a tropical
storm...the second of the 2008 Atlantic season.
Recent microwave and visible satellite imagery suggest that the
center is a little farther north and west of the previous
estimates. Because of the relocation of the center...the initial
motion is a somewhat uncertain 285/12...a little faster than
before. Bertha is located to the south of a mid-level ridge over
the eastern Atlantic and model guidance is in fairly good agreement
on a continued west-northwestward track during the next 2-3 days.
Thereafter...the models suggest that Bertha will approach a
weakness in the subtropical ridge over the central Atlantic. The
GFS...HWRF...and GFDL models therefore show a northwestward turn
late in the forecast period. The new official forecast is a little
faster and north of the previous track and is close to a consensus
of the GFDL...GFS...HWRF...and ECMWF models.

Vertical wind shear is forecast to remain light during the next few
days...however...cooler waters along the forecast track should
limit intensification. SSTs along the track are expected to
increase after 48 hours which would favor some strengthening.
However...late in the forecast period southwesterly shear is
expected to increase which again should halt strengthening. The
SHIPS and lgem models predict Bertha to become a hurricane in 72 to
96 hours. However...the new intensity forecast will remain a
little more conservative which is closer to the GFDL and HWRF
solutions.

Outer rainbands associated with Bertha are expected to bring gusty
winds and locally heavy rainfall to portions of the southern Cape
Verde Islands during the next 24 hours.

Forecast positions and Max winds

initial 03/1500z 13.3n 24.7w 35 kt
12hr VT 04/0000z 13.8n 26.7w 40 kt
24hr VT 04/1200z 14.7n 29.4w 45 kt
36hr VT 05/0000z 15.6n 32.5w 45 kt
48hr VT 05/1200z 16.6n 35.8w 50 kt
72hr VT 06/1200z 18.5n 42.5w 55 kt
96hr VT 07/1200z 21.5n 48.5w 55 kt
120hr VT 08/1200z 25.0n 52.0w 55 kt

$$
forecaster Brown


14 posted on 07/03/2008 8:02:23 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

Is there a “we are all going to die” ping list?


15 posted on 07/03/2008 8:11:31 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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To: driftdiver
I’ve heard that water temps are fairly low this year. Since water temp is what feeds these storms its expected to be a slow/weak season. At least thats what they are telling us here in Florida.

Not true. water temps are generally above normal across the Tropical Atlantic; a bit below normal in the Carribean, and above normal in the Gulf of Mexico.

You can't go by the water temperatures at the immediate coast, as those will fluctuate wildly from week to week based on wind direction, etc.

16 posted on 07/03/2008 8:18:32 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: nwctwx; abb; abbi_normal_2; aberaussie; alancarp; Alas Babylon!; Alia; Alice in Wonderland; ...
Tropical Storm Bertha - She's waaaay out in the Atlantic. Have we missed the Caribbean early season, and jumped right into Cape Verde storms?


On/Off Hurricane List Mash Here-->

17 posted on 07/03/2008 8:25:24 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: nwctwx

The hot spot behind her could cause us some grief though.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 8:28:27 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: NautiNurse

Here’s to another massive hurricane season like the last two.


19 posted on 07/03/2008 8:32:26 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: SouthTexas

Cheers!


20 posted on 07/03/2008 8:35:33 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: nwctwx
Tropical Storm Bertha - She's waaaay out in the Atlantic. Have we missed the Caribbean early season, and jumped right into Cape Verde storms?

Oh great - just about my favorite storms /sarc Thanx for the ping.

21 posted on 07/03/2008 8:39:31 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Seinfeld was a show about nothing - so is Obama.)
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To: theDentist; nwctwx

I like “fish storms” they leavethose of us on the coast alone :)


22 posted on 07/03/2008 8:40:22 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my dad I'm a lobbyist, he thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: nwctwx

I missed something.

Who and what was storm “A”?

Was that the one that rushed through Honduras or somewhere and messed up some hairdos?


23 posted on 07/03/2008 8:50:49 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Arthur went into Belize as a small storm but caused flooding

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2008/ARTHUR.shtml?


24 posted on 07/03/2008 8:56:25 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx

Will PETA protest and demand we protect the fish from this storm?


25 posted on 07/03/2008 9:15:57 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: nwctwx

What’s the poop on Invest 93, just west of the Windward Islands?


26 posted on 07/03/2008 10:08:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: WakeUpAndVote; NautiNurse
No “Die” ping list but ask to get on NautiNurse’s “Surfs Up” ping list. Can get a number of local views on the storms.
27 posted on 07/03/2008 10:08:55 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Keeping an eye on the Frying Pan Shoals Buoy)
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To: NautiNurse

Please add to surfs up ping list.

Thanks!


28 posted on 07/03/2008 10:19:01 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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To: NautiNurse

Doin’ The Bertha Bump (BUTT) Boogie,,,

Bump,Bump,Ba`Da,Da,Bump!!!...LOL;0)


29 posted on 07/03/2008 10:40:53 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: NautiNurse

Thx for the ping, Double N.


30 posted on 07/03/2008 11:24:15 AM PDT by abb (Organized Journalism: Marxist-style collectivism applied to information sharing)
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To: nwctwx

no, no, no .. I won’t stand for this. Obama will bring change and we won’t have storms any more.


31 posted on 07/03/2008 11:57:27 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: NautiNurse

Conditions generally aren’t that favorable in the central caribbean this time of year. Probably not much if any development with it, maybe if survives into the northwestern part it could do something.


32 posted on 07/03/2008 12:06:54 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: SouthTexas; NautiNurse

33 posted on 07/03/2008 12:36:45 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: NautiNurse

quack quack

You ya doing these days?


34 posted on 07/03/2008 2:17:44 PM PDT by don-o (Have you donated to FR? If not, why not?)
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To: NautiNurse

And what’s that thing in the W. GOM that won’t go away?


35 posted on 07/03/2008 2:27:19 PM PDT by txflake
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To: NautiNurse

Thank you for the ping!


36 posted on 07/03/2008 5:36:11 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: NautiNurse

I was thinkin’ about you when I saw the weather channel.


37 posted on 07/03/2008 5:44:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN (Delaware) & Karen (Fl) www.lifeforlauren.org & www.prayforkaren.com)
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To: nwctwx

‘bertha?’ real original name.


38 posted on 07/03/2008 6:53:36 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (So sue me.)
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To: NautiNurse
Happy 4th and thanks for the ping

let's hope this is not an interesting season

.

39 posted on 07/04/2008 3:47:15 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee; NautiNurse
And for some good news - buoy's in the western Atlantic and Caribbean sea stand ready to give us data this year.

Buoys 41041, 41040, 41043, 42059, 42058, 42057 and 42056 are in place, up and running.

40 posted on 07/04/2008 4:28:15 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Keeping an eye on the Frying Pan Shoals Buoy)
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To: Elle Bee
Back at you for a happy and fun-filled Independence Day!

Another boring hurricane season would be just fine with me.

41 posted on 07/04/2008 5:11:37 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: PeteB570

Excellent news. I hope they are up and running for a long, long time.


42 posted on 07/04/2008 5:12:57 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks for the ping.


43 posted on 07/04/2008 10:14:48 AM PDT by nuclady
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To: SouthTexas

Something is falling out of the sky around here. Some kind of wet stuff.


44 posted on 07/04/2008 7:41:14 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

We had a little this morning, but anything to dampen the rockets red glare would be a good thing. :)


45 posted on 07/04/2008 8:14:49 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: SouthTexas; NautiNurse
Great fire works here at Ft Bragg. Got started 30 minutes late but we were still back in the house by 2300.

Last plot of the critter was 16N 33.5 west.

Going to pass the first buoy a bit to the north.

Station 13008 Reggea is at 15N 38W and reporting 78.3 deg water.

46 posted on 07/04/2008 8:59:56 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Keeping an eye on the Frying Pan Shoals Buoy)
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To: PeteB570

Didn’t know we had buoys that far out.


47 posted on 07/04/2008 9:37:33 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: NautiNurse


Track continues to shift west a bit. If this is close, the U.S. may have to be on the lookout in a few days..
48 posted on 07/05/2008 9:09:51 AM PDT by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx; NautiNurse; cll

I recall Bertha in ‘96 (on July 8th, I believe, it hit the northeeastern part of Puerto Rico) — I remember that tidbit because I was working in DC as a Rums of Puerto Rico lobbyist, and the then-Secretary of Commerce for the island, Carlos Vivoni, appeared on CNN and other media discussing the storm.


49 posted on 07/05/2008 5:13:49 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

bump to find


50 posted on 07/05/2008 6:36:55 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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