The Salome No One Knows

Biblical Archaeology Review ^ | Jul/Aug 2008 | unattributed

[SunkenCiv]

When people hear the name Salome, they immediately think of the infamous dancing girl of the Gospels... At her mother's urging, Salome asked for the head of Herod's most famous prisoner on a platter. Fearful of breaking his word before his guests, Herod granted Salome's request and ordered John the Baptist beheaded. In antiquity there was a considerably more famous Salome, however, who was revered for centuries. She was so admired that generations of mothers, Herodias apparently among them, named their daughters Salome in her honor. This Salome was the only woman ever to govern Judea as its sole ruler. She is even mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls: the sole woman, and one of only 18 people named in the scrolls... Although largely forgotten today, Salome Alexandra was likely the greatest Hasmonean ever to have sat upon the throne.

[SunkenCiv]

subtitle, "Long-time Ruler of a Prosperous and Peaceful Judea Mentioned in Dead Sea Scrolls".

[SunkenCiv]

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[Monkey Face]

So. Does that mean she was no Jezebel?

[SunkenCiv]

Maybe, but she did have red lips hair and fingernails.

[Monkey Face]

*sheesh*

So do I. Your point is...?

;o]

[SunkenCiv]

It was a Rod Stewart reference.

Rod Stewart is retiring from the musical scene, and plans to retire in Canada. He plans to keep busy with a classic rock-themed diner called the Every Picture Tells a Story Donut Shop.

The rimshots just write themselves sometimes...

[Monkey Face]

I just watched his biography, this morning. Doesn’t matter what he does...I’ll listen to his music!

[SunkenCiv]

:’)

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

...a Rod Stewart reference....(he) plans to retire in Canada... to keep busy with a classic rock-themed diner called the Every Picture Tells a Story Donut Shop

Considering that you posted the original, fascinating thread and then hijacked it with your leaven of humor--and recalling the lyrics of that song, I am compelled to reply:

GO YEAST, YOUNG MAN.

That will be the width and breadth of my comments, I'd write more but I falafel.




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[eyedigress]

I thought this was about that frog who couldn’t swim because he never tried.

[AnAmericanMother]

Thereby hangs a tale (thereby always hangs a tale):

When I had my first baby, the hospital was full up and overflowing, so I shared a room with an extremely learned lady who was getting her Ph.D. in Old Testament Theology from Emory University. Her dissertation was on the ancient queens of Judah. She told me about it, and I said "I see. Ah, yes. Uh-huh." in the right places. So I had actually heard of Salome before . . .

I thought she was going to expire when my obstetrician, who was a little feisty red-headed Irishman, came boiling down the hall (you could hear him coming two halls away), rushed in, high-fived me, passed a few kidding remarks to me about my labor and delivery, listened to my heart, thumped my chest, and rushed on his way. Her eyes were hanging out on her cheekbones. "Who WAS that?" "My OB. Isn't he GREAT?!?"

[Caramelgal]

Interesting. So perhaps Salome had a bit more depth to her than the biblical description of her as just being an ancient sleazy “pole” dancer?

[tubebender]

and I thought it was a food thread...

[count-your-change]

I think the donut story is half-baked and full of holes, he just got into it for the dough. Sorry, but I just couldn't sugarcoat it.

[Cincinna]

Thanks again, SunkenCiv, for one of your fascinating posts.

Salome has come down through the ages as Jezebel, the ultimate bad girl. Interesting to find out it was not an uncommon name, and one held by a great female leader of Judea.

[colorado tanker]

Still, her story isn’t gonna get me to go to the opera - unless she did the dance of the seven veils, too.

[punster]

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...a Rod Stewart reference....(he) plans to retire in Canada... to keep busy with a classic rock-themed diner called the Every Picture Tells a Story Donut Shop

Considering that you posted the original, fascinating thread and then hijacked it with your leaven of humor—and recalling the lyrics of that song, I am compelled to reply:

GO YEAST, YOUNG MAN.

That will be the width and breadth of my comments, I’d write more but I falafel.
*********

Now, for the hole truth. I am sure people will get a rise out of the allusion to the donut shop.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[dangus]

Why make this into a joke thread?? Just because Salome goes well with Cheese?

[SunkenCiv]

:’D

[SunkenCiv]

Different gal.

[SunkenCiv]

With that attitude, you’d be the first one with your head on a platter. ;’)

[SunkenCiv]

:’) My pleasure.

[Bigg Red]

:-)

[colorado tanker]

LOL!

[Jaded]

It was during the Hasmonean period that the Pharisees and Sadducees—both familiar to readers of the New Testament for their encounters with Jesus—became prominent religious parties. Both struggled for the hearts and minds of ordinary Judeans. Unfortunately, we do not have any document that we can definitively say was written by a Pharisee or a Sadducee of Salome Alexandra’s day. Scholars must rely upon later, often-inaccurate, sources to learn about them. According to the New Testament: “The Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, or angels, or spirit; but the Pharisees acknowledge all three” (Acts 23:8). Although Jesus called the ­Pharisees “hypocrites” (Matthew 12:13) and “a brood of vipers” (Matthew 23:23), these references are unfair. Because Jesus and the early Christians believed in resurrection, they viewed the Pharisees as their greatest rivals; for this reason, the New Testament accounts cannot always be trusted to present a fair and balanced portrayal of the Pharisees.

This is just too funny. Who'd thought BAR would have gone that far around the bend?