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Survey: 8 in 10 businesses now using Macs
Computerworld ^ | 06/26/2008 | By Gregg Keizer

Posted on 06/27/2008 10:37:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker

Enterprises love the Mac's reliability, rely on virtualization, reports Yankee Group

June 26, 2008 (Computerworld) Nearly 80% of businesses have Macs in-house, nearly double the percentage that said they had users running Mac OS X two years ago, a research firm said today.

"Then, we were talking about onesies and twosies," said Laura DiDio, a research fellow at Yankee Group Research Inc. who conducted a survey of more than 700 senior IT administrators and C-level executives. "Now the number of actual users is very significant. A number of the businesses said that they had 50 or 100 or even several thousand Macs deployed."

In early 2006, when DiDio last polled corporate IT professionals on Mac deployment, 47% said that they had Apple Inc. hardware in their environments.

DiDio was impressed with the growth of Macs in business, considering that Apple Inc. has put little to no official effort into that part of the market. "This isn't a tidal wave, but it's certainly a sustained trend," she said. "Apple has a beachhead in business. Where it once had just 1-to-2% market share in corporate, now they're up to 8-to-10%," DiDio added.

Twenty-one percent of the firms surveyed reported that they had deployed more than 50 Macs. "This isn't Mickey Mouse; it's not just onesies and twosies anymore," DiDio said. "Apple's graduated into the big league."

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1 posted on 06/27/2008 10:37:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Eight out of ten businesses deploying Macs—PinG!


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2 posted on 06/27/2008 10:39:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

No way. No serious business uses a Mac. Those businesses must all be run by hippies.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 10:48:25 PM PDT by Scourge of God (McCain? Mickey Mouse? Decisions, decisions.)
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To: Swordmaker

And how much of this shift could be attributed to the Windos Vista fiasco? The older Windows XP actually was somewhat more reliable.

There ARE other operating systems, you know. It is just that the Apple and Mac OS are totally integrated, and the Windows system is grafted onto a sometimes shaky substrate PC architecture.


4 posted on 06/27/2008 10:54:00 PM PDT by alloysteel (A taxpayer voting for Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Swordmaker

So what. This article is misleading. 80 percent of businesses have Mac somewhere in house and they portray it as if 80 percent are dedicated to Macs. I know we have some Macs in house...somewhere. But we dont use them for serious work and I have yet to see a PC104 stack with a Mac OS on it. Most of the time it’s Linux or in a rare case a Windows embedded system.


5 posted on 06/27/2008 10:58:10 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: alloysteel

I know out here organizations that perceive a Linux roll out to require too much technical savvy are looking seriously at Apple, perceiving it to be far and away better from a security perspective. Most of these folks are using a mix of MS products and none have plans to even consider Vista. Whatever windows7 is supposed to be next year, it had better be spectacular or else MS may find themselves with competition again....imho


6 posted on 06/27/2008 11:01:26 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: DonaldC
I know out here organizations that perceive a Linux roll out to require too much technical savvy are looking seriously at Apple, perceiving it to be far and away better from a security perspective.
You just said that... Good stuff.
7 posted on 06/27/2008 11:08:13 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

/s


8 posted on 06/27/2008 11:08:57 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Scourge of God
No way. No serious business uses a Mac. Those businesses must all be run by hippies.

I saw it coming years ago. In the usual Democrat way, Apple infiltrated the schools and conditioned kids from youth to depend on them. It is no wonder that when these Apple students reach working age they influence business to aquire systems they are most comfortible with.

9 posted on 06/27/2008 11:09:26 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: alloysteel
And how much of this shift could be attributed to the Windos Vista fiasco?

I imagine that most businesses have not transitioned to Vista yet. The mega-telecommunications corporation that I work for has not.

10 posted on 06/27/2008 11:13:48 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Swordmaker
I've already switched to mac at work (5 years now). In that time, I used 2 macs and neither one had the OS crash even once (both running 24x7 for years, only interrupted by one long power outage, two office moves, and a HDD failure). No problems installing software, RARE spontaneous closing of programs, and I have been able to use mac programs to open all work-related files from my windows computer (including all MS office files).

I use windows XP at home. If vista is not seriously fixed soon, I'll just make the switch to mac at home as well, and dual boot the machine to run windows XP so I can still use all of my current codes and commercial software, but only purchase new software for the mac OS.

11 posted on 06/27/2008 11:14:45 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: DonaldC

Off sarcasm.


12 posted on 06/27/2008 11:16:11 PM PDT by allmost
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To: higgmeister
I imagine that most businesses have not transitioned to Vista yet. The mega-telecommunications corporation that I work for has not.

An awful lot of oil patch is running on Win XP, and there are even some Win 2000 and Win98SE machines out there still working away.

13 posted on 06/27/2008 11:37:02 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Scourge of God

Maybe 8 out of 10 subscribers to Mac World have a Mac. I doubt otherwise.


14 posted on 06/27/2008 11:41:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Swordmaker

I call BS. A toy for west coast metrosexuals. Steve Jobs must die...


15 posted on 06/27/2008 11:43:20 PM PDT by Clemenza (Friggin in the Riggin...Friggin in the Riggin)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I have 15 platforms alone stuck on 98SE that I get to babysit. The time and money will pay off this fall just to transfer to XP. (It's a test exec issue that some may not understand)

In the mean time the money is rolling in, but the mobo's are harder and harder to find.

16 posted on 06/27/2008 11:49:31 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
I'm running laptops, and the mobos have been doing great so far. One inverter board, two backlight bulbs, and I swap out hard drives based on an assumed MTBF of 2.5 years. I only lost the contents of one drive, and recovered the data from backups. It is a brutal environment (mobile lab on drilling locations), but most of the power fluctuations are dampened out by the power transformer and the battery serves as a decent backup source.

Fine dust and vibration (standing waves in your coffee cup) are the real killers where I work. I use a six pistol aluminum case from Sportsman's Guide for a transport case--just cut out the foam to fit the laptop--about $50 and works great.

I also use those $10 Walmart keyboards and go through one every 6 months or so, which saves the keyboard on the laptop.

Every environment/application is different, though.

17 posted on 06/28/2008 12:01:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I found a new source recently for my Mobo's but that need is coming to an end. Hopefully we will have transferred and debugged from 32 bit to 64 bit by fall.

Hard Drives are my biggest nemises and getting a machine ready after failure is a time problem. I recently bought a hard drive duplicator for 800 bucks and can hopefully get all the unique systems copied before they crash again.

Good luck to ya!

18 posted on 06/28/2008 12:09:28 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Cvengr
Maybe 8 out of 10 subscribers to Mac World have a Mac. I doubt otherwise.

""Then, we were talking about onesies and twosies," said Laura DiDio, a research fellow at Yankee Group Research Inc. who conducted a survey of more than 700 senior IT administrators and C-level executives. "Now the number of actual users is very significant. A number of the businesses said that they had 50 or 100 or even several thousand Macs deployed."

Looks as if it might be a valid statistical sample.

Here's one large business that knows superior capabilities and used a MacBook Pro for it's President's presentation:


Steve Balmer presentation to Microsoft Belgium

Note the computer on the desk running the presentation...

It could, possibly, be running Windows Vista... but I doubt it.

19 posted on 06/28/2008 12:13:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: eyedigress
Good luck to you as well!

I had to smile at "unique systems".

20 posted on 06/28/2008 12:14:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Swordmaker

My tagline says it all.


21 posted on 06/28/2008 12:17:18 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Ha Ha! 10+ just to handle it. :^)


22 posted on 06/28/2008 12:19:31 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Smokin' Joe

Are you out on the Gulf or something like that?


23 posted on 06/28/2008 12:24:38 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Swordmaker

8 of 10 fashion businesses use MACs.


24 posted on 06/28/2008 12:30:52 AM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: eyedigress

No, I work onshore, mostly in Montana and North Dakota lately.


25 posted on 06/28/2008 12:33:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: CougarGA7
So what. This article is misleading. 80 percent of businesses have Mac somewhere in house and they portray it as if 80 percent are dedicated to Macs. I know we have some Macs in house...somewhere. But we dont use them for serious work and I have yet to see a PC104 stack with a Mac OS on it. Most of the time it’s Linux or in a rare case a Windows embedded system.

I did not see that either stated or implied in the article. The statement is, that, according to a survey of 700 IT and mid-level management people, 80% of enterprise level businesses had Macs in their companies compared to just 47% two years ago. Nowhere does the article state or imply that any of them "are dedicated to Macs.' in fact, it explicitly states the opposite.

Many of these businesses ARE indeed using their Macs for serious work. OSX Macs are, after all, fully certified UNIX™ computers.

26 posted on 06/28/2008 12:33:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I looked at your home-page after that post and understood much better. Excellent page BTW.


27 posted on 06/28/2008 12:39:28 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Clemenza

What did Steve Jobs ever do to you?


28 posted on 06/28/2008 12:50:26 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: eyedigress
Thanks, nothing fancy, just a few quotes I rounded up.

Looks like you may have done a wee bit of work in the boonies, too.

It can be a challenge to deliver information to people who work near sidewalks as if you were too, when you are far from where the pavement ends.

At least it isn't boring. (Altough sometimes, boredom is a nice change.)

29 posted on 06/28/2008 12:53:06 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: higgmeister

Please, outside of using Macs in elementary school I never saw another Mac in school until college. Even then it was only in the Journalism department. Every other place was PCs because those were plentiful and cheaper.

People are going to Macs for other reasons. I think you would have to search pretty hard for a Mac user who wasn’t capable on a Windows machine.


30 posted on 06/28/2008 12:53:54 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: higgmeister
I saw it coming years ago. In the usual Democrat way, Apple infiltrated the schools and conditioned kids from youth to depend on them. It is no wonder that when these Apple students reach working age they influence business to aquire systems they are most comfortible with.

So, Apple Computer Co.'s, machiavellian marketing plot of donating one Apple II to every school in California 30 years ago has only now come to fruition? It's really amazing how a mere 9000 Apple computers, given away in 1978, could sway so many companies 30 years later in 2008. My what foresight... what planning... what vision...

Uh, why didn't it work in the 1980s and 1990s, when those mind-washed kids had graduated from school and were now the driving force behind the computerization of the enterprise market and chose to standardize on Microsoft run PCs?

31 posted on 06/28/2008 12:57:24 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Mr. Blonde

He’s HALF SYRIAN! ;-)


32 posted on 06/28/2008 1:01:09 AM PDT by Clemenza (Friggin in the Riggin...Friggin in the Riggin)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I visited Great Falls in '79 and got a tour into the ground. 8 freakin' feet of snow outside but quite warm in the silo.

We have stations in your area (Minot) but I never asked for that one.

33 posted on 06/28/2008 1:01:30 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: NoLibZone
8 of 10 fashion businesses use MACs.

Assuming you are referring to Mac computers and not Media Access Controller, you are probably right... 8 of 10 fashion businesses use Macs along with 8 if 10 non-fashion businesses.

34 posted on 06/28/2008 1:12:18 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: eyedigress
I never got to go see inside one of the silos. I have seen 60 below (not counting the wind chill) about 80 miles west of there (Minot) though, and 8 feet of snow would have been nice and warm if it would just hold still...

It isn't so bad in the summer, between say the second week of June and the third week of August you almost never need a heavy coat or Mickey Mouse boots...

Good chatting, but I'm due for a nap.

35 posted on 06/28/2008 1:18:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Clemenza
He’s HALF SYRIAN! ;-)

So he is! His birth father abandoned his unwed birth mother (until years later when they got back together and married) and she gave him up for adoption as an infant.

He was raised by a working class, blue collar American family. So what does the nationality of his biological father have to do with your animus toward Steve Jobs?

36 posted on 06/28/2008 1:19:29 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Just trying to needle the Jobs-worshippers on this site. I have nothing personal against Steve or Woz.


37 posted on 06/28/2008 1:22:55 AM PDT by Clemenza (Friggin in the Riggin...Friggin in the Riggin)
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To: Clemenza
Just trying to needle the Jobs-worshippers on this site. I have nothing personal against Steve or Woz.

I am an admirer of Steve Jobs' accomplishments. I do not worship him. Nor, do I believe, do any other Freepers worship him. I disagree with some of his politics but I wholeheartedly agree with his business acumen and vision. I'd guess that most Apple users have no idea who he is.

38 posted on 06/28/2008 1:43:46 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: eyedigress
I have 15 platforms alone stuck on 98SE that I get to babysit. The time and money will pay off this fall just to transfer to XP. (It's a test exec issue that some may not understand)

In the mean time the money is rolling in, but the mobo's are harder and harder to find.

For what it's worth, if you don't need specific hardware that the apps expect to find, meaning that you're stuck with software that requires DOS or Win9x to run, I've had remarkable luck with VMWare. Plus, it's nice being able to run 6 or 7 of these batch processing systems on one piece of hardware.

Mark

39 posted on 06/28/2008 3:42:09 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: CougarGA7

You’re right of course....every business has one or two holdouts that MacNuts that have enought clout to flout the IT policy...doesn’t mean the rest of the organization swings that way...this ‘survey’ is BS even though I think MS is way over-rated.


40 posted on 06/28/2008 3:45:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

We have a few Macs in the office that people personally bought and use. Does that qualify us as a Mac company? I have a suspect that is how the numbers are so high.


41 posted on 06/28/2008 5:03:22 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Swordmaker

Hadn’t seen that. Funny.


42 posted on 06/28/2008 5:11:23 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom and individual liberty is for everyone, including the odd and weird people like you.)
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To: CougarGA7
This article is misleading.

It says 80 percent of business are using Macs. I did not take it to mean that 80 percent of businesses were only Mac.

And there is no reason to think the survey question has changed in two years so they are comparing apples to apples (pun works well) and it indicates a significant trend. Also, note the survey says that two years ago most business answering yes were like your shop with some Mac hidden away in the art department. Now, they are saying they are a visible and significant part of the infrastructure.

43 posted on 06/28/2008 6:31:45 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: higgmeister
Apple infiltrated the schools and conditioned kids from youth to depend on them.

That was an 80s thing. The kids today making the switch were almost all taught MSFT PC in their gub indoctrination centers.

44 posted on 06/28/2008 6:35:48 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Swordmaker

Our company has about 400 employees. The graphic design, web development, and printing staff have been using them since the early 90’s. The IT staff isn’t terribly pleased about them, but the Macs have proven that they can co-exist peacefully and productively beside their PC cousins, so we’re tolerated. Mac users had to do their own service and support for a long time, but it is something a muggle can do, since the Macs simply don’t break down with nearly the same frequency that PCs do.


45 posted on 06/28/2008 7:04:20 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Swordmaker

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE APPLE BEHIND THE PLACARD!!!

I AM THE GREAT...and...POWERFUL...er...Microsoft.

;-) :-D


46 posted on 06/28/2008 7:08:11 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Swordmaker

Possibly true, but we can’t trust the source. If she has a personal feeling on a subject you can basically forget any hope of honest reporting from her.


47 posted on 06/28/2008 8:30:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: higgmeister
I saw it coming years ago. In the usual Democrat way, Apple infiltrated the schools and conditioned kids from youth to depend on them.

Funny, Apple owned the schools in the years preceding the almost complete Microsoft dominance of the business world.

48 posted on 06/28/2008 9:12:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker

Wow. For somne reason this article really called out the fanatical windows bigots in droves.


49 posted on 06/28/2008 9:36:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: Scourge of God

I used to do field service computer work for Unisys and have been to hundreds of companies and offices.
I have never seen a Mac in any one of them.
That was for 10 years ending back in 2006.
Maybe 80% of those companies went out and bought Apple in the last 2 years but i really doubt it.


50 posted on 06/28/2008 10:14:29 AM PDT by mowowie
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