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M*A*S*H note: 25 years later, a look back at series' record-breaking finale
Pop Matters ^ | 2/28/08 | Diane Werts

Posted on 02/28/2008 1:23:20 PM PST by Borges

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To: cva66snipe

It was great when Steele found a used throat depressor stick on the ground and complained about waste at the unit, and Henry had to tell him that you can’t re-sterilize wood. ;-)

Sad that Harry Morgan had so many legal problems in his later years, for beating his wife, IIRC? :-(


41 posted on 02/28/2008 5:16:20 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: x

MASH went into the crapper when Mike Farrell joined the cast.


42 posted on 02/28/2008 5:21:31 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: x

Harry Morgan is actually still alive. He’ll turn 93 in April.


43 posted on 02/28/2008 5:21:41 PM PST by Borges
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To: pillut48
Likely his age. Dementia perhaps? Some persons can get quite combative even maybe a TIA or something. He was about 81 at the time of arrest I think. Born in 1915 according to bio.
44 posted on 02/28/2008 5:26:14 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Borges
I watched at a "MASH Party" at the Off Union Saloon on Van Ness St at the corner of Union St in San Francisco, Cali. The regulars, I was one, brought in food and dressed in various costumes, quite a few naughty nurse outfits. (It was not a gay bar.)

I don't remember a darn thing about it....;)
45 posted on 02/28/2008 5:34:16 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: alwaysconservative

Oh, there are a million fantastic one liners.

A few from Burns come to mind...

“Go peddle your fish”

“There you are. There are your lounge lizards at war”

From Blake...

“Better bring in the brass monkeys tonight”


46 posted on 02/28/2008 5:55:45 PM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: Vision
It was the Clintostas that ruined the show... fm Wikipedia:

Not coincidentally, the change for her character came when Linda Bloodworth-Thomason joined the show's writing team.

47 posted on 02/28/2008 6:21:52 PM PST by skeeter
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To: GSWarrior

Bob Newhart I’ll go with - what a great show!


48 posted on 02/28/2008 6:31:07 PM PST by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: skeeter

Now THAT is depressing.


49 posted on 02/28/2008 7:07:24 PM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: Borges
It’s not hard to see why. When the M*A*S*H finale aired, most American homes had access to only three broadcast networks. Cable TV was in its infancy, limited to maybe two dozen channels such as CNN, ESPN, USA, TBS, HBO and MTV, with hardly any original entertainment shows. Such current biggies as Discovery, Comedy Central, FX, AMC and TNT didn’t exist.

A bit wrong. Some had cable going back to the 1950s. Not everyplace in America could get good reception off air. In the earliest days, neighbors had to even agree to the channel or else face poor reception. Jim Backus wrote about his experiences as a homeowner in the 1950s in his first autobiography.

In the 1960s drive-ins and theaters ran anti-"pay tv" promo clips before the movie.

By the late 1970s there were a number of pay movie channels (generally showing 2 movies in a night, alternating the play list through the month).HBO goes back to 1975 and was doing original comedy specials that far back.

There were generally 2 or 4 UHF channels per city as well as a PBS affiliate. If you lived near several mid-sized cities, you might even recieve (via cable or antenna) several NBCs, etc.

The earliest of dedicated channels that I saw (24 hour news, 24 hour sports, 24 hour music video, etc.) also included Nickelodeon (split with A&E at night) and a number of other offerings Upwards of 36 channels by my recall in the early 1980s.

But the idea of the Neilsen ratings is skewed. More viewers doesn't translate to "largest viewing audience".

Because more people are watching TV today than going to the movies, or listening to radio, or doing something else, the bigger audience doesn't really "count"?

Might as well ignore the money that King Kong or Gone With The Wind has made in re-release or home video or tv broadcasts and just tally the take in 1930s dimes to assure us that Golden Compass made "more money" than "supposed" Hollywood blockbusters of old.

50 posted on 02/28/2008 9:37:54 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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My wife watches this crap every night now.

It was OK 25 YEARS ago when nothing else was on, but watching Radar and Hawkeye now are definitely "been there, done that".

On the other hand, I could watch the "Beverly Hillbillies" or "Munsters" all day long.

I remember what I was doing when this came on, I was busy doing something unseemly and did not care that I missed it.

51 posted on 02/28/2008 9:51:11 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Vision
The Henry Blake years were the finest on TV IMO.

And after leaving M*A*S*H, McClean Stevenson never did another worthwhile thing in his career.

52 posted on 02/29/2008 6:59:59 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (God Bless George W. Bush)
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It was nice to know up front just who was an idiot, though ...

Kinda takes one to know one, doesn't it!

53 posted on 02/29/2008 8:13:21 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (God Bless George W. Bush)
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To: Borges

From the finale, I especially remember Winchester and the Chinese musicians.

Great quote from Winchester in some episode, about his unwillingness to do something: “I’d sooner share my toothbrush with a Democrat.”


54 posted on 02/29/2008 8:27:11 AM PST by Sloth (Senator He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, D - Illinois)
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To: x

I watched it as a kid.
But really, 11 years of that garbage was too much.
___________

And there is your issue. You were a kid, you didn’t get the humor. That, and you probably missed too many episodes of Mork and Mindy.


55 posted on 02/29/2008 9:49:54 AM PST by dmz
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To: pillut48
I got one of those shirts in high school and wore it until you could see through it...my IQ was measured at 149—so I’m an idiot because I liked M*A*S*H*?? >:-(

High school kids have gotten up to worse things over the years.

My comment was more about the shirt and advertising one's love for the show on one's torso than the show itself. Especially ten or eleven years on after it had gotten really stale.

I loved Monty Python when I was a kid, but if I see somebody doing the penguin sketch now, I cringe. However good it was, it lost something over the years.

Ditto when you see people who can't keep their love of some science fiction or fantasy films and shows under control. I won't say which. They're all fine things, but there's such a thing as going too far and not knowing when to let go.

I guess Robin Williams says a lot of funny things. But after a while it's hard to get past the fact that it's Robin Williams saying them and saying the same things over and over and over again.

For some of us, it's like that with Alan Alda and MASH in general. And when Robin or Alan gets really serious and earnest and starts tugging at the heart strings, that's the worst part.

56 posted on 02/29/2008 1:29:35 PM PST by x
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To: Borges
The filmography of the series is a continuum upon which one glides effortlessly from classic slapstick comedy to sanctimonious prosthyletic pap.

The series expressed an fascinating mathematical property: as Alan Alda's artistic control over the series approached one, self-righteousness approached infinity while the factors of sublety and enjoyability became vanishingly small.

The finale represented the zenith of Alda's destructive stewardship and a simultaneous nadir for comedy and good will; together, a veritable yin and yang of bad writing. This viewer was left banging his head and muttering Yes, yes, Alan. We get it. War is bad. Now shut the hell up.

Goodbye, farewell and amen.

Amen as in "Thank God it finally ended."

57 posted on 02/29/2008 1:42:34 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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