Posted on 02/13/2008 6:53:28 PM PST by Engine82
No doubt Hillary is the weakest candidate on the democrat side. Assuming Texas and Ohio have open primaries and the GOP nomination has been clinched by McCain republican voters in Ohio and Texas should ask for a democrat ballot and mark Hillary's name.
Sending the two liberal democrats into a convention without a clear nominee is good for Republicans.
If you have a friend who lives in Ohio and Texas send them an email asking them to muddy the waters for the democrats by voting for Hillary.
But its so tempting to put her away NOW!
Even so, Ohio will go Obama.
But aren’t you afraid your hand would wither if you voted for her, however good your intentions were?
I believe that this is really stupid.
So says you. They should vote for Obama, so says me!
I don’t know that Obama would do much better in a general election either.
The polls are saying that Hillary Clinton has a wide margin in Ohio and Texas and she will win them for sure.
The stage is set and the concert will be much worse than the warm-up.
I’m betting Hillary wins both Texas and Ohio. Which will really throw the RATs into a tailspin. Most candidates in Hillary’s position would be looking for a way to win. Hillary is probably look for a way to cut Obama off at the knees.
Every time someone votes for hitlery an angel cries.
I'd bet my house, my first born, and my dog that she can't win the general election. I would make no such wager re: Obama.
I can’t pull the primary lever for McCain or Huckabee, and none of the others have a snowball’s chance in a Texas summer, so I’m voting the DEM ballot in the TX primary.
I’m leaning Obama.
He’s a goofy, incompetent, inexperienced socialist who will cause damage if he wins. But I think his damage can be modulated by the GOP opposition (hope there’s some still standing!)
On the other hand Hillary Clinton is PURE EVIL. And that’s saying nothing about that prancing jackass Bill having the run of the WH for four years — I don’t think my cardiovascular system could handle that. IMO she needs to be terminated (politically) ASAP, with extreme (political) prejudice.
I’m not about to play that asinine “who could McVain beat more easily” game. For one thing, it’s unknowable. I’m just going to focus on what I can contribute to put Hillary away (politically).
I haven’t been keeping up on that side, I just figured Ohio isn’t much different than any other depressed state Obama has won.
ditto, without all the gambling
“The polls are saying that Hillary Clinton has a wide margin in Ohio and Texas and she will win them for sure.”
Where she’ll go from ‘underdog’ to ‘comeback kid’.
You make a compelling argument, but what if the she-beast actually does make a comeback and actually does become president? How will you feel then? I say: kick while she’s down. Put a stake in her heart now.
In Texas over 50% of the democrat voters are Hispanics and as you know Hispanics are her best voting group.
He is winning the female vote from what I understand.
>> In Texas over 50% of the democrat voters are Hispanics and as you know Hispanics are her best voting group.
Really?
Please explain what happened in Virginia, then?
And that’s our most recent data point.
The Islamic terrorists have been saying all along that they want to put a Muslim into the White House, by the "population bomb" or the atom bomb. Supposedly, Obama is not a Musliam, but his name is "Barack Hussein Obama". It doesn't really matter whether he is a Muslim or not. If he wins, it'll appear to the terrorists that "one of theirs" is in the White House. It'll be a big psychological victory for the bad guys.
The way someone explained it is that the majority of Hispanics voters in Virginia are not from Mexican descent where as in California, Arizona, and Texas most Hispanics are from Mexican descent and they are the one voting for Hillary Clinton 2:1 if not more.
NO
But wouldn't that screw up the whole system?
>> Agree. If she doesn’t get the nomination, she can’t be President. The sooner she is gone, the better.
I don’t think that I can agree any more with that. I just want both of the Clintons to go away.
I’m with you.
Obama’s background, persona, charisma, stellar rise to power, etc., etc. hides the fact that he is a total fraud. I have no fear of his potential presidency. He will accomplish absolutely nothing and might even convince voters to put congress back in R control.
Meanwhile the thought of hitlery and slick back in the White House makes my flesh crawl.
The problem is that they stamp you voter ID card with the party primary you vote in. I could never have “Democrat” stamped on anything with my name on it.
EXACTLY.
This is a VERY bad idea. Not only is it dishonest, but it's too risky. She should not be ANYWHERE near the presidency. I truly believe that we have not seen the worst of the Clintons. They are complete criminals, with a long list of dead former colleagues or political opponents and with a conscience-less, megalomaniacal mind. As others have said, it's time to put a stake in the beast now! The Clintons need to go away, they are extremely bad news and cannot be allowed back in the White House. Don't help her get the nomination!!!
hell...Kerry almost won last time
I’m figuring a vote for Obama would be useful here in Texas.
1. Seeing Hillary admit she lost would be priceless.
2. Seeing Hillary try to steal the nomination would be priceless (you know she will)
3. Watching the aftermath would be priceless.
4. I could never touch a button that resulted in my voting for Hillary...my hand would wither and fall off.
5. It’s just right to never let her get on the ballot if I can help it.
Seriously, you have got this backward, in my opinion.
This is the time for everyone who can, to vote for Obama.
An Obama win in Texas and Ohio will finish off Hillary, and encourage other states to go with Obama.
If Hillary wins in Ohio and Texas, she becomes unstoppable, and will get the nomination. Then with the vote fraud the Dem machines in the inner cities are set to commit, coupled with the huge turnout the Dems have already engendered(no pun intended) in the primaries, plus the dirt the Dems will unleash on McCain from Hill, Bill, and the entire Clinton apparatus, spells a landslide against McCain.
If Hillary loses Texas and Ohio, the Dem party will turn on her, and we will be rid of her and her husband for good.
Hillary is not the weakest candidate on the Dem side, Obama is.
If Obama becomes the Dem nominee, there is a slight chance that McCain could expose his inexperience and force Obama into an embarrassing set of admissions that he has no experience, no core values, no ideas and no vision.
For the good of the country, Hillary has to be prevented from getting the nomination for President. Now is the time to unload on her, and expose her past deeds and to promote Obama to all of our Dem friends.
With Obama the R’s have a chance to win. With Hillary, we will lose big time, especially if she names Obama as her VP at the convention as a conciliatory measure.The sheeple will go nuts over that one.
The strategy for now, in the remainder of the primaries, is to promote Obama, and to expose Hillary and defeat her chances for the nomination.
After the nomination, work to expose Obama as the empty suit.
And vote for Republican Senate and Congressmen to counter Obama should he become President.
If you cannot vote for McCain, like me, we can at least work to contain the Empty Suit.
But for now, we need to help him become the nominee for the Dems, not Hillary.
That is true, but thanks to Dems there is a war going on between the Hispanics and African-Americans. The Ohio race will go Obama as the left has captured both demographics.
No, it’s really smart. Do it. Obama is worse than her.
You have to decide which primary you will vote in. I will stay in the R primary - to vote down ticket. We need state and national conservatives elected. I want to vote against my current state rep - dims crossed over last time to get him re-elected.
This will give the underdog more delegates, and we want them to go into that convention as close together in the delegate count as they possibly can be.
During the Iran Iraq war, Israel supposedly would give intelligence to the side that was losing. Same tactic here.
Hillary is easier to beat in the general. Lots of people already hate her. Not so with Obama.
Some of you say what if she wins the general? Well, if McCain couldn't beat Hillary, he definitely wouldn't have been able to be Obama. And Hillary would be better than Obama as President.
This is not because of any policy difference. They're pretty much the same. It's because Conservatives could and would stand up against Hillary much more than they'd stand up against Obama. Obama has a lot of sympathy right now for some unknown reason. All this "change" and "hope" stuff. Change what? Who the heck knowns. But trust me, Hillary would be much easier to oppose. She'd rally the right.
>> The way someone explained it is that the majority of Hispanics voters in Virginia are not from Mexican descent where as in California, Arizona, and Texas most Hispanics are from Mexican descent and they are the one voting for Hillary Clinton 2:1 if not more.
THE SCIENCE OF PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN POLITICS
1) Pundit makes hypothesis
2) “Experiment” (a.k.a. “election”) proves hypothesis wrong
— here we digress from REAL science —
3) Pundit SPINS results, grasping at straws to explain why hypothesis really WAS right even though the results contradicted the hypothesis
...hey, just like economics! Or MSNBC explaining why the market is down when it was up yesterday.
Crunching the data from my own observations, I obtain the following results:
2.3165% of “conventional wisdom” is accurate and the rest is pure unadulterated bovine excrement. I have not yet figured out which category any particular piece of C.W. falls into.
I’m gonna trust my gut, thanks.
>> The way someone explained it is that the majority of Hispanics voters in Virginia are not from Mexican descent where as in California, Arizona, and Texas most Hispanics are from Mexican descent and they are the one voting for Hillary Clinton 2:1 if not more.
THE SCIENCE OF PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN POLITICS
1) Pundit makes hypothesis
2) “Experiment” (a.k.a. “election”) proves hypothesis wrong
— here we digress from REAL science —
3) Pundit SPINS results, grasping at straws to explain why hypothesis really WAS right even though the results contradicted the hypothesis
...hey, just like economics! Or MSNBC explaining why the market is down when it was up yesterday.
Crunching the data from my own observations, I obtain the following results:
2.3165% of “conventional wisdom” is accurate and the rest is pure unadulterated bovine excrement. I have not yet figured out which category any particular piece of C.W. falls into.
I’m gonna trust my gut, thanks.
Never bet on Hillary never vote for any Clinton. Never never never never
FR had its roots (1995 or so) in an old Prodigy mailing list that was anti Clinton anti Whitewater scams. Lets not lose that.
Never vote Clinton never.
Vote Obama
I cannot vote, but you need to know this, if Hillary Clinton becomes President FR will be shut down, see David Schuster.
NO. It will be Harold Ford, Jr. He is also a "black who looks white." However, he does not carry the anti-Clinton baggage.
Free Republic will be shut down if Hillary Clinton is President and I am not joking. People should not take the risk of Hillary Clinton becoming President even if it is 1% chance.
This is so stupid it’s criminal. Anyone who wants freepers to save Hellary does not have our best interests at heart. Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. My doubts were just obliterated.
Sending the two liberal democrats into a convention without a clear nominee is good for Republicans.
If you have a friend who lives in Ohio and Texas send them an email asking them to muddy the waters for the democrats by voting for Hillary.
Why would you ask that of anyone to give their right to vote for all the other postions that are on the ballot?..... In other words you’d ask that a Republican voter in Texas not vote in the Senator race, Congressional race, State Judges, State senators/representatives, District attorneys, and other races......
I don’t think that is even a reasonable request even if you did likewise in Geogria when you voted. I’m sure Hillary was happy with your support but no thanks I’ll pass.
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