Along with this...
Posted on 12/13/2007 7:54:03 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD
Madonna, Leonard Cohen, the Dave Clark Five, the Ventures and John Mellencamp.
The inductees will be honored at a ceremony on March 10 at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York.
All those other inductees are fine — except for Madonna... UGH!
She should be in the putana hall of fame.
Rock and Roll “Hall of Fame” sells out.
My Italian grandmother said it the best: “Putana! Dishonesta! Disgraziata!”
And she was talking about Monica Lewinsky when she said that (my grandma ADORED Bill Clinton), but the same words can refer to The Material Girl...
Don't be so hard on them. When they built the R&R HoF, rock was a viable music genre. It's all but dead today, so the pool of inductees is shrinking yearly. I expect my teenage garage band will be inducted by 2030.
mellencamp - ugh.
Madonna should be there...she put the cone bra on the map.
If they’re going to put madonna in, I want Eddie Money in the hall of fame.
Best Duet Ever: Eddie Money & Ronnie Spector...
ugh, MEANWHILE THE hALL OF sHAME STILL BOYCOTTS fLEETWOOD mAC.
Yes, Ed is so underrated. He is a great rocker.
I loved his special guest appearance on “King of Queens” a few years back.
62 top 40 hits
Yeah, but didn't they just build it 12 or 13 years ago?
About time the Ventures got in! But Madonna.....ah well.....
Then she belongs in the Cone Bra Hall Of Fame
Yes, there’s always those 1980’s reunion tours with REO Speedwagon, Styx, Pat Benatar, etc.
Where in Maine do you live? I know the coastline well... I have friends in Falmouth and Topsham. I went to college in NH, at Plymouth State (back in the mid-80’s).
With the Coneheads.... “We’re from France”...
“One of these things, isn’t like the others… One of these things, isn’t the same...”
Lovely lewiston where it was in the teens this morning.
I know you’ll be getting a lot of snow & ice on Sunday afternoon (at least that’s what I saw on the Weather Channel)...
About Eddie Money — did he ever have a drug problem? He seemed “out of it” in a few instances...
Why do they call it the rock n roll hall of fame, when it is clearly the pop music hall of fame.
Madonna is not a rocker and neither is Leonard Cohen.
I guess there is no So Depressing I Want to Kill Myself Hall of Fame for Leonard Cohen. And no Expert at Self Promotion without Musicality hall of fame for Madonna.
Can someone please name one Rock and Roll song she ever wrote or sang?
Rock and Roll PING??!!!
You mean they occassionally put acts in on talent and not album sales?
It is Jann Wenner’s Grammy Approved Personal Grudge Hall of Singers.
It has nothing to do with Rock and Roll just as the corporate industry has always had a tin ear to rock.
Rock was dead in 1960 and in 1972 and 1989 and 1997 too.
Before the Beatles, The Ventures defined the sound of Japanese rock and still tour as a band in Japan (Nokie Edwards does not play many if any of the stateside Ventures shows).
What exactly qualifies as “Rock and Roll” these days? Because it seems like R&R now includes ANYTHING other than obviously classical music that was done after 1951.
If they want to do an “MTV Hall of Fame” then by all means Madonna belongs in there, but she not made any contributions to Rock and Roll.
Went to get my Christmas card stamps last week. I specifically requested The Madonna.
The postal worker laughed and said a young girl was there recently and asked for the Madonna stamp. She looked at it and said, “This isn’t Madonna.”
She thought it would be the singer.
The spirit of rock and roll is the same going back to the 1950s.
There is a lot of country-twanging hippie dippie BS and then corporate “classic rock” that dominated radio of the 1970s (post-Woodstock to the end of Carter). There was an underground movement of rock and roll that has served to inspire generations that followed. But the industry shunned them then and will continue to do so.
As the 1970s came to a close, rock critics picked bands like Elvis Costello & The Attractions as the face of “rock” (as David Lee Roth put it because Elvis Costello LOOKS like a rock critic).
Every year at SXSW there is a critically acclaimed “buzz” band that never pans out.
The smarter acts have realized that there is no win to signing over their songs to a major label, being on the hook to the them for millions of dollars, and 10 years of non-negotiable contracts. They can successfully record, tour, and even place songs outside of the majors.
Many of the glossy press publications are part of the same entrenched media. Did Tiger Beat ever write about Jimi Hendrix or the Velvet Underground?
It took the Ramones 30 years and breaking up in an ugly split to get noticed. Joe Strummer had to die to get acknowledged by the Grammys. Iggy & the Stooges still get slighted. The breakthrough of Indie “grunge” acts in a media dominated world of speed metal, heavy metal, neo-jam bands, and rap-rock hybrids was a fluke. There was real rock among some of the independent labels’ rosters but again the street level offerings were a bit more limited. And those that got through were still shown the door when they next block of teeny boppers came down the pike. They were fed a steady media diet of poster idols like Justin Timerberlake and Britney Spears.
They did the same thing in the 1950s when JLL, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and Elvis were shown the door in exchange for “safe” artists like Tab Hunter, Fabian, Frankie Avalon, Ricky Nelson, and Sal Mineo. And that “kid junk” rock and roll was met with utter disgust from the (Red) folk singer movement and jazz snobs. The folkie crowd never has accepted Bob Dylan’s love of rock and roll old and new.
I wonder why Al Gore has not been inducted yet.
Unreal. Can you imagine?
If the USPS recently announced that they will have Frank Sinatra’s stamp soon, how on Earth could they have Madonna Ciccone’s before his?
I happen to think that Madonna is terrific as a pop-music singer, but what she does is not rock ‘n roll. About the only good thing I can say about Leonard Cohen’s music is that, way back in the day, it was useful “mood music” if you know what I mean ...
I love Eddie Money. I saw him at Summerfest about 10 years ago; he was great.
I couldn't see him very well because there were so many people, but heard him just fine. In all my years going to Summerfest I don't recall seeing so many people watching a concert at the Miller Stage.
He definitely should've been at the Marcus Amphitheater on the grounds which seats 23,000 and he would've easily sold out that night had he played there instead.
What’s more is you are supposed to be dead before you get a stamp in America (but some have gotten recognized for “things” they did and gotten their pictures on stamps).
It was all used to get the more “dangerous” acts out of the limelight.
And there were even smaller acts that did get radio airplay.
What’s more, quite a few of them have been located and have lucrative careers touring the world.
There is a rockabilly hall of fame and probably some other “halls”.
Jann Wenner’s thing is bogus even if they have some nice artifacts. Same with the Experience Music Pavillion in Seattle and many of the Hard Rock Cafes around the world.
You can probably learn more about “rock and roll” by dropping in on Manitoba’s bar in Manhattan and talking to Handsome Dick, he has tons of stories.
Ronald Reagan should be considered a “positive” force in music because he riled up the hippies in California as governor and later riled up the hardcore kids in the 1980s. He appeared on more album covers than any other figure of the day.
Meanwhile what’d Al Gore do? He united Frank Zappa, John Denver, and Dee Snider to combine forces and tell Al what a jerk he was when he tried to use government power to censor music. And MTV sold out and endorsed his presidential campaign.
I was just kidding....he’s won everything else this year.
Clinton/Gore will get it. They opened the White House to Bono, MTV, etc.
The Left has always been irked by seeing that photo of Elvis with Nixon and James Brown endorsing Richard Nixon.
The Beatles (who date back to 1958) couldn’t get signed until the early 1960s because MGM, Decca, et al told them that the guitar group sound was “out” and they had to record covers of non-rock standards like When The Saints Go Marching In, My Bonnie, and Besame Mucho. And they had to ditch the leather jacket bad boy look for matching suits.
There was a conscious decision to castrate the music for the masses.
Huh?
What a travesty. Might as well include Hall & Oates, Air Supply and Barry Manilow while they are at it.
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