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You Can Still Get a Mortgage--It Just May Not Be Easy, or Cheap
http://www.cnbc.com/id/20388273 ^ | 8-24-07 | Jim Kingsland

Posted on 08/24/2007 11:11:03 AM PDT by Hydroshock

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To: Hydroshock

It’s back to the way it should be.

We have a young couple in our church. He’s a mortgage broker, and he got himself one of the fancy loans. He just lost his house, and now has horrible credit. He’s married with 1 child and another on the way, and he’s living at his parent’s house.

He’s still in shock that he lost his home.

The older couples in our church just think he made a risky decision. We also think that he needs to change jobs and get something that does not work off of commision.

We live in California, and we have a large home for the area. A lot of people think we must have a huge mortgage.

There’s a big difference also between having a 500K mortgage with 0 equity in a home, and no savings.

We have a 500K mortage with almost a million in equity, and we also have lots of savings. Our home already dropped in value, and we could handle the swing. If something happens to my husband’s job, then we have savings to handle home payments for awhile.

I think a lot of young homebuyers in California thought they would buy their house, and it would appreciate very quickly. People that have lived in the area long enough know that you have to be able to ride out waves where homes don’t appreciate fast. Our first home didn’t go up in value for the first 5 years (then it skyrocketed). We made sure that we had enough money to handle that situation.


21 posted on 08/24/2007 11:34:23 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: cinives

Common sense is a beautiful thing.


22 posted on 08/24/2007 11:35:08 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine; TopoGigio

Some Demos are already talking about the Government coming in to this and helping homeowners. I would be against Government throwing money to individuals, but perhaps there is a way for the FED to assist on a more indirect level?


23 posted on 08/24/2007 11:43:12 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: RockinRight

Back in 1981 when I lived in Simi Valley, Ca. and it had been growing for years my neighbor was still building his second spec house after getting his contractor’s license three years earlier.

He made the equivalent of a year’s wages on the first house and quit an assembly line job at GM in Van Nuys with his wife quitting soon after to raise a family; by June, 1981, the house was nearing completion and his second daughter was crawling around all over his paperwork and plans.

Come November, the house was finished and on the market and he was trying to sell, he had a surprising number of prospective buyers, especially considering that the house was listed for $375,000 and surrounded by newer homes that were appraised at only $175-200 thousand.

The banks were all in a hunkered down mode and financing wa more than hard to come by. Three times a deal fell through because of buyers giving up on qualifying and his own note was due on the spec house, his own house and just about everything he was able to borrow on to get to that point.

When the bank called in his loan, the interest rate was 18.75%; he, his wife and their two children packed up and said goodbye to their house of ten years that he so wanted to save.

They landed on their feet in Fremont and both went back to work for GM at the plant to build Corollas and Geo Prizms, wiser but sadder.

When we get to that point again, wake me up and we’ll both scream.


24 posted on 08/24/2007 11:43:26 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: RockinRight

DATE , MORTGNA
04/1971, 7.31
05/1971, 7.43
06/1971, 7.53
07/1971, 7.60
08/1971, 7.70
09/1971, 7.69
10/1971, 7.63
11/1971, 7.55
12/1971, 7.48
01/1972, 7.44
02/1972, 7.33
03/1972, 7.30
04/1972, 7.29
05/1972, 7.37
06/1972, 7.37
07/1972, 7.40
08/1972, 7.40
09/1972, 7.42
10/1972, 7.42
11/1972, 7.43
12/1972, 7.44
01/1973, 7.44
02/1973, 7.44
03/1973, 7.46
04/1973, 7.54
05/1973, 7.65
06/1973, 7.73
07/1973, 8.05
08/1973, 8.50
09/1973, 8.82
10/1973, 8.77
11/1973, 8.58
12/1973, 8.54
01/1974, 8.54
02/1974, 8.46
03/1974, 8.41
04/1974, 8.58
05/1974, 8.97
06/1974, 9.09
07/1974, 9.28
08/1974, 9.59
09/1974, 9.96
10/1974, 9.98
11/1974, 9.79
12/1974, 9.62
01/1975, 9.43
02/1975, 9.11
03/1975, 8.90
04/1975, 8.82
05/1975, 8.91
06/1975, 8.89
07/1975, 8.89
08/1975, 8.94
09/1975, 9.13
10/1975, 9.22
11/1975, 9.15
12/1975, 9.10
01/1976, 9.02
02/1976, 8.81
03/1976, 8.76
04/1976, 8.73
05/1976, 8.77
06/1976, 8.85
07/1976, 8.93
08/1976, 9.00
09/1976, 8.98
10/1976, 8.93
11/1976, 8.81
12/1976, 8.79
01/1977, 8.72
02/1977, 8.67
03/1977, 8.69
04/1977, 8.75
05/1977, 8.82
06/1977, 8.86
07/1977, 8.94
08/1977, 8.94
09/1977, 8.90
10/1977, 8.91
11/1977, 8.92
12/1977, 8.96
01/1978, 9.02
02/1978, 9.16
03/1978, 9.20
04/1978, 9.36
05/1978, 9.58
06/1978, 9.71
07/1978, 9.74
08/1978, 9.78
09/1978, 9.76
10/1978, 9.86
11/1978, 10.11
12/1978, 10.35
01/1979, 10.39
02/1979, 10.41
03/1979, 10.43
04/1979, 10.50
05/1979, 10.69
06/1979, 11.04
07/1979, 11.09
08/1979, 11.09
09/1979, 11.30
10/1979, 11.64
11/1979, 12.83
12/1979, 12.90
01/1980, 12.88
02/1980, 13.04
03/1980, 15.28
04/1980, 16.33
05/1980, 14.26
06/1980, 12.71
07/1980, 12.19
08/1980, 12.56
09/1980, 13.20
10/1980, 13.79
11/1980, 14.21
12/1980, 14.79
01/1981, 14.90
02/1981, 15.13
03/1981, 15.40
04/1981, 15.58
05/1981, 16.40
06/1981, 16.70
07/1981, 16.83
08/1981, 17.29
09/1981, 18.16
10/1981, 18.45
11/1981, 17.83
12/1981, 16.92
01/1982, 17.40
02/1982, 17.60
03/1982, 17.16
04/1982, 16.89
05/1982, 16.68
06/1982, 16.70
07/1982, 16.82
08/1982, 16.27
09/1982, 15.43
10/1982, 14.61
11/1982, 13.83
12/1982, 13.62
01/1983, 13.25
02/1983, 13.04
03/1983, 12.80
04/1983, 12.78
05/1983, 12.63
06/1983, 12.87
07/1983, 13.42
08/1983, 13.81
09/1983, 13.73
10/1983, 13.54
11/1983, 13.44
12/1983, 13.42
01/1984, 13.37
02/1984, 13.23
03/1984, 13.39
04/1984, 13.65
05/1984, 13.94
06/1984, 14.42
07/1984, 14.67
08/1984, 14.47
09/1984, 14.35
10/1984, 14.13
11/1984, 13.64
12/1984, 13.18
01/1985, 13.08
02/1985, 12.92
03/1985, 13.17
04/1985, 13.20
05/1985, 12.91
06/1985, 12.22
07/1985, 12.03
08/1985, 12.19
09/1985, 12.19
10/1985, 12.14
11/1985, 11.78
12/1985, 11.26
01/1986, 10.88
02/1986, 10.71
03/1986, 10.08
04/1986, 9.94
05/1986, 10.14
06/1986, 10.68
07/1986, 10.51
08/1986, 10.20
09/1986, 10.01
10/1986, 9.97
11/1986, 9.70
12/1986, 9.31
01/1987, 9.20
02/1987, 9.08
03/1987, 9.04
04/1987, 9.83
05/1987, 10.60
06/1987, 10.54
07/1987, 10.28
08/1987, 10.33
09/1987, 10.89
10/1987, 11.26
11/1987, 10.65
12/1987, 10.65
01/1988, 10.43
02/1988, 9.89
03/1988, 9.93
04/1988, 10.20
05/1988, 10.46
06/1988, 10.46
07/1988, 10.43
08/1988, 10.60
09/1988, 10.48
10/1988, 10.30
11/1988, 10.27
12/1988, 10.61
01/1989, 10.73
02/1989, 10.65
03/1989, 11.03
04/1989, 11.05
05/1989, 10.77
06/1989, 10.20
07/1989, 9.88
08/1989, 9.99
09/1989, 10.13
10/1989, 9.95
11/1989, 9.77
12/1989, 9.74
01/1990, 9.90
02/1990, 10.20
03/1990, 10.27
04/1990, 10.37
05/1990, 10.48
06/1990, 10.16
07/1990, 10.04
08/1990, 10.10
09/1990, 10.18
10/1990, 10.18
11/1990, 10.01
12/1990, 9.67
01/1991, 9.64
02/1991, 9.37
03/1991, 9.50
04/1991, 9.49
05/1991, 9.47
06/1991, 9.62
07/1991, 9.57
08/1991, 9.24
09/1991, 9.01
10/1991, 8.86
11/1991, 8.71
12/1991, 8.50
01/1992, 8.43
02/1992, 8.76
03/1992, 8.94
04/1992, 8.85
05/1992, 8.67
06/1992, 8.51
07/1992, 8.13
08/1992, 7.98
09/1992, 7.92
10/1992, 8.09
11/1992, 8.31
12/1992, 8.22
01/1993, 8.02
02/1993, 7.68
03/1993, 7.50
04/1993, 7.47
05/1993, 7.47
06/1993, 7.42
07/1993, 7.21
08/1993, 7.11
09/1993, 6.92
10/1993, 6.83
11/1993, 7.16
12/1993, 7.17
01/1994, 7.06
02/1994, 7.15
03/1994, 7.68
04/1994, 8.32
05/1994, 8.60
06/1994, 8.40
07/1994, 8.61
08/1994, 8.51
09/1994, 8.64
10/1994, 8.93
11/1994, 9.17
12/1994, 9.20
01/1995, 9.15
02/1995, 8.83
03/1995, 8.46
04/1995, 8.32
05/1995, 7.96
06/1995, 7.57
07/1995, 7.61
08/1995, 7.86
09/1995, 7.64
10/1995, 7.48
11/1995, 7.38
12/1995, 7.20
01/1996, 7.03
02/1996, 7.08
03/1996, 7.62
04/1996, 7.93
05/1996, 8.07
06/1996, 8.32
07/1996, 8.24
08/1996, 8.00
09/1996, 8.23
10/1996, 7.92
11/1996, 7.62
12/1996, 7.60
01/1997, 7.82
02/1997, 7.65
03/1997, 7.90
04/1997, 8.14
05/1997, 7.94
06/1997, 7.69
07/1997, 7.50
08/1997, 7.48
09/1997, 7.43
10/1997, 7.29
11/1997, 7.21
12/1997, 7.10
01/1998, 6.99
02/1998, 7.04
03/1998, 7.13
04/1998, 7.14
05/1998, 7.14
06/1998, 7.00
07/1998, 6.95
08/1998, 6.92
09/1998, 6.72
10/1998, 6.71
11/1998, 6.87
12/1998, 6.72
01/1999, 6.79
02/1999, 6.81
03/1999, 7.04
04/1999, 6.92
05/1999, 7.15
06/1999, 7.55
07/1999, 7.63
08/1999, 7.94
09/1999, 7.82
10/1999, 7.85
11/1999, 7.74
12/1999, 7.91
01/2000, 8.21
02/2000, 8.32
03/2000, 8.24
04/2000, 8.15
05/2000, 8.52
06/2000, 8.29
07/2000, 8.15
08/2000, 8.03
09/2000, 7.91
10/2000, 7.80
11/2000, 7.75
12/2000, 7.38
01/2001, 7.03
02/2001, 7.05
03/2001, 6.95
04/2001, 7.08
05/2001, 7.15
06/2001, 7.16
07/2001, 7.13
08/2001, 6.95
09/2001, 6.82
10/2001, 6.62
11/2001, 6.66
12/2001, 7.07
01/2002, 7.00
02/2002, 6.89
03/2002, 7.01
04/2002, 6.99
05/2002, 6.81
06/2002, 6.65
07/2002, 6.49
08/2002, 6.29
09/2002, 6.09
10/2002, 6.11
11/2002, 6.07
12/2002, 6.05
01/2003, 5.92
02/2003, 5.84
03/2003, 5.75
04/2003, 5.81
05/2003, 5.48
06/2003, 5.23
07/2003, 5.63
08/2003, 6.26
09/2003, 6.15
10/2003, 5.95
11/2003, 5.93
12/2003, 5.88
01/2004, 5.74
02/2004, 5.64
03/2004, 5.45
04/2004, 5.83
05/2004, 6.27
06/2004, 6.29
07/2004, 6.06
08/2004, 5.87
09/2004, 5.75
10/2004, 5.72
11/2004, 5.73
12/2004, 5.75
01/2005, 5.71
02/2005, 5.63
03/2005, 5.93
04/2005, 5.86
05/2005, 5.72
06/2005, 5.58
07/2005, 5.70
08/2005, 5.82
09/2005, 5.77
10/2005, 6.07
11/2005, 6.33
12/2005, 6.27
01/2006, 6.15
02/2006, 6.25
03/2006, 6.32
04/2006, 6.51
05/2006, 6.60
06/2006, 6.68
07/2006, 6.76
08/2006, 6.52
09/2006, 6.40
10/2006, 6.36
11/2006, 6.24
12/2006, 6.14
01/2007, 6.22
02/2007, 6.29
03/2007, 6.16
04/2007, 6.18
05/2007, 6.26
06/2007, 6.66
07/2007, 6.70


25 posted on 08/24/2007 11:45:38 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

Yea. Lower the rate.


26 posted on 08/24/2007 11:48:09 AM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by puffing his cigar and staring real hard)
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To: Hydroshock

“I hope you are right, I just wish teh return to sanity was sooner.”

....Amen!.....you know I started to feel uneasy about 10 years ago when they were building McMansions across the way from our farm....really huge places with 3&4 car garages...they were selling briskly, but then I started noticing that there were still bed sheets over the windows 6 months after the new owners moved in....in other words those people were so deeply in hock they couldn’t afford curtains....that’s when I began to get a quesy feeling in my gut....I told my wife “when that ship of fools goes down we’re liable to get sucked into the vortex”...and we did...two of our investments went down due to mortgage related issues.....could’ve been much worse....compared to some we’re lucky.


27 posted on 08/24/2007 11:50:09 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
but perhaps there is a way for the FED to assist on a more indirect level?

If the FED assists they'll have to raise our taxes to do it. Don't really like to pay for other peoples mistakes, it's enough that I have to pay for my own.

28 posted on 08/24/2007 11:56:53 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine

and rare ... unfortunately


29 posted on 08/24/2007 11:58:07 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Hydroshock
"If you have poor credit, cannot document income, or looking for 100% financing -- it's tough sledding," says McBride.

THIS IS GREAT NEWS SINCE IT WILL GO A LONG WAY TO RESTORING CONFIDENSE IN THE MORTGAGE PRODUCTS BEING BUNDLED AND SOLD IN THE MARKET PLACE.

Sub prime loans for people with credit scores of 600 or less? Forget it. The standards have been tightened to the point that sub prime mortgages, 20% of the mortgage market last year, are a thing of the past.

A great reason for people to clean up their credit and take advantage of the rewards of a 770-825 credit score.

Also gone are a variety of products ranging from "no-money-down loans" with low teaser rates to interest-only mortgages that increase the amount owed to the lender over time.

All in all really good news. As I said previously, this will go a long way to restoring the needed confidence in the markets.

30 posted on 08/24/2007 12:07:34 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: RockinRight
"Basically, if you qualify for 100%, then you don’t need it.""

Years ago when I worked in a bank we used to joke that the fastest way to get a loan from a bank is to prove to them you don't need it.

31 posted on 08/24/2007 12:11:03 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: luckystarmom

Sounds like he could use a gift. http://www.daveramsey.com/


32 posted on 08/24/2007 12:13:07 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Old Professer

Good job! A bit of perspective in a sea of ignorance.


33 posted on 08/24/2007 12:15:13 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: luckystarmom
The older couples in our church just think he made a risky decision. We also think that he needs to change jobs and get something that does not work off of commision.

The hard part there is he probably made 3 times as much money in the mortgage business as he would on any salary job - being left with a tough decision - ride out the wave, to ultimately make more money again, or take a lower paying salaried job that will ALWAYS be a lower paying job, and STILL lose the house.

34 posted on 08/24/2007 12:17:25 PM PDT by RockinRight (Fred Thompson once set fire to a crowd of liberals simply by puffing his cigar and staring real hard)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Govt. help would be good for everyone, including yourself. What happens when half a dozen people let their house go back to the bank in your neighborhood? The value of your house and everyone else's drops....big time. The govt. should work with Fannie mae and freddie mack, FHA, and loosen the guidelines so people can switch their arms to fixed.
35 posted on 08/24/2007 12:18:48 PM PDT by TopoGigio
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To: TopoGigio

I am just not sure how that would be implemented without throwing bucks at the problem. Would it take more $$$$ to Fannie Mae?


36 posted on 08/24/2007 12:31:29 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Eagles Talon IV
"Restoring confidence" in these mortgage products is a BAD THING. These are bad loans which never should have been made and would not have been made if people didn't think that they could cheat reality. If no one had confidence in these scams they would not have occurred.

These were "con" games which preyed on misplaced confidence.
37 posted on 08/24/2007 12:32:22 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Iwo Jima

I may have mis-read your post. If so, sorry.


38 posted on 08/24/2007 12:34:32 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Old Professer

But were suppose to believe that this is the first time this has happened and it is all Bush’s fault.


39 posted on 08/24/2007 12:36:50 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Yep...unfortunately. Who else can do it? You know Wall Street isn't going to step up. It would cost some serious bucks, however all they really need to do is refinance these “hung” people, with a fixed rate. When these ARM’s start to adjust, its not pretty. They jump up to 11, 12, 13+% very quickly. Peoples payments will be jumping hundreds of dollars every 6mo/1 year. If nothing is done to avoid that, then prepare for the worst.
40 posted on 08/24/2007 12:41:29 PM PDT by TopoGigio
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