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Austin woman gets 23 years for sex with 16-year-old boy
Austin American Statesman ^ | 9/16/07 | Isadora Vail

Posted on 08/16/2007 7:37:04 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan

Woman was defended by legendary Houston attorney Richard 'Racehorse' Haynes.

By Isadora Vail AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF Thursday, August 16, 2007

GEORGETOWN — An Austin woman was sentenced to 23 years in prison Wednesday for having sex with a 16-year-old whom she lived near last year in Round Rock.

Phill Raije Rian, 41, shook vigorously as a Williamson County jury sentenced her. She was convicted Monday of three counts of sexual assault of a child.

The jury recommended 10 years for one count, 13 for the second and 10 years' probation for the third.

Judge Billy Ray Stubblefield stacked the first two sentences, meaning she will serve 23 years in prison and 10 years' probation.

She won't be eligible for parole until she has served half the prison term.

The teen testified last week that he and Rian had a relationship and planned to marry once he was of legal age. He also said he and Rian had sex several times.

The boy's parents became suspicious after she bought him a cell phone and he began spending a lot of time at her home.

"She needs serious help," Assistant District Attorney Phil Grant said during Wednesday's sentencing phase.

But during testimony on Tuesday, the victim's mother said she "was sure" that Rian did not force her son into a sexual relationship.

"We told him, 'You made a big-boy decision, so you need to face big-boy consequences,' "

the victim's mother said.

Rian's two children, ages 5 and 3, are in Child Protective Services custody, and a custody trial is pending in county court.

ivail@statesman.com; 246-0053


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KEYWORDS: crime; judges; judiciary; leo; nifong; prison; prisons; sex; zerotolerance
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This is way to strong a sentance to me. There is a big difference in consentual sex and rape. Rape should be punished to the extreme, but a 16 year old boy having a consentual Lewinsky doesn't warrent this type of sentance.
1 posted on 08/16/2007 7:37:07 AM PDT by Cat loving Texan
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To: Cat loving Texan
Agreed. Besides, a 16 year old isn’t really a “child.”
2 posted on 08/16/2007 7:39:46 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: Cat loving Texan
but a 16 year old boy girl having a consentual Lewinsky doesn't warrent this type of sentance.
3 posted on 08/16/2007 7:40:37 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Cat loving Texan

“GEORGETOWN — An Austin woman was sentenced to 23 years in prison Wednesday for having sex with a 16-year-old whom she lived near last year in Round Rock.”

she must be buttugly, good looking ones get off very lightly


4 posted on 08/16/2007 7:40:40 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process)
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To: jasoncann

FYI


5 posted on 08/16/2007 7:40:50 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Cat loving Texan

We need a clearer picture to determine her guilt.

6 posted on 08/16/2007 7:41:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Cat loving Texan

I can’t render a verdict of guilty or innocent until after seeing photos of the alleged perpetrator.


7 posted on 08/16/2007 7:41:51 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Lazamataz

Funny!!


8 posted on 08/16/2007 7:42:25 AM PDT by soupcon
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To: Cat loving Texan

This is trying to substitute mythology (in this case, the idea that all actions by men and women are of equal weight) for reality. Sixteen year old boys simply do not get pregnant, or at least I’ve never seen it. They’re wanting to inflict on this woman the same punishment which they would justifiably inflict on a grown man caught doing it with a teenage girl.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 7:42:45 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: Lazamataz

looks guilty.


10 posted on 08/16/2007 7:42:49 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: jude24
My point above is that there's an inherent double-standard - not that it'd be a good thing if it were a 40-year-old man and 16-year-old girl, but that it's not any better for a 16-year-old guy.

This guy will have just as warped a sexuality as a 16-year-old girl who has an affair with a 40-year-old man.

11 posted on 08/16/2007 7:42:53 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Lazamataz

The call on the field is 'Guilty.'

12 posted on 08/16/2007 7:42:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Cat loving Texan

In Kentucky, the trophy wife of a former Bengal player was just given a very very light sentence for the exact same thing.

I figure Kentucky was just happy she wasn’t the younger boy’s sister....(chuckle)


13 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:06 AM PDT by Badeye (Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
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To: Cat loving Texan

1) THe law is the law.
2)Reverse the circumstances with a 41 year old man and a 16 year old girl. What would you say then??

14 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:17 AM PDT by llevrok (I voted for George Bush - not Jorge Arbusto.)
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To: Cat loving Texan

Ya but how are we going to fill up all those shiny new super size prisons that got built?


15 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:23 AM PDT by ran20
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
"We told him, 'You made a big-boy decision, so you need to face big-boy consequences,'"


16 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:26 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Lazamataz

I’m leaning heavily towards GUILTY.


17 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:32 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: dfwgator
Yeah, but in this picture, she's looking innocent....


18 posted on 08/16/2007 7:44:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: sure_fine
she must be buttugly, good looking ones get off very lightly

Judge for yourself. I typed her name in Google and got a video of her being sentenced: http://www.statesman.com/news/mplayer/m/27070

19 posted on 08/16/2007 7:44:44 AM PDT by bluefish (I suffer from Hillaryphobia.)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Was he 16 when it happened or is he 16 now?

What is the age of consent in Texas?

From his testimony that they "planned to marry" implies that it was voluntary on his part, so the only question is whether it was statutory rape, and the article gives no information on that. The only reference to being "of age" was about the planned marriage.

20 posted on 08/16/2007 7:45:05 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: sure_fine
she must be buttugly, good looking ones get off very lightly

Nope. A fruitloop, but not butt ugly.

21 posted on 08/16/2007 7:45:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SolidWood

Check out her other picture, she clearly committed no heinous crime in that photo!


22 posted on 08/16/2007 7:45:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Cat loving Texan

That’s seriously extreme. Common sense is out the window in our judicial system.


23 posted on 08/16/2007 7:47:38 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: Cat loving Texan

bump for later


24 posted on 08/16/2007 7:47:38 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: Lazamataz

Still inconclusive.


25 posted on 08/16/2007 7:47:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: bluefish

dayum,, I was wrong there
maybe she rejected an offer from the judge or something


26 posted on 08/16/2007 7:48:11 AM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process)
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To: Lazamataz

Sorry IMO this picture made her even more guilty.


27 posted on 08/16/2007 7:49:59 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: Cat loving Texan

This is nuts. I’ve been in favor of lowering the age of consent (for males at least) to 16, and this sentence is a good example why.


28 posted on 08/16/2007 7:50:51 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: SolidWood

You are a tough juror.


29 posted on 08/16/2007 7:51:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Lazamataz

I will say that 23 years is pretty darn harsh.


30 posted on 08/16/2007 7:51:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: jude24
“This guy will have just as warped a sexuality “

You’re nuts. As George Carlin so aptly observed, “They’re not victims, They’re lucky b@stards!”

31 posted on 08/16/2007 7:51:37 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: Cat loving Texan

Well, at least he will be of age when she makes parole!


32 posted on 08/16/2007 7:51:57 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Cat loving Texan

With that sentence she must be hideously ugly.

I’ll scroll down now to check for a pic.


33 posted on 08/16/2007 7:52:44 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: dfwgator
I guaren-damn-tee you that this sentence will be overturned, reduced, or whatever.

It's too much, in fact, if the parents were cool with the woman and they might have planned to marry someday, then the hell with the conviction, too.

34 posted on 08/16/2007 7:52:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: Cat loving Texan

A 41 yr. old woman has a sexual relationship with a 16 yr. old boy. Now, she’s going to jail (and she must have known that was possible the first time she had sex with the boy) and her two young children, aged 3 yrs. and 5 yrs., are in state custody.

23 yrs. for being a selfish, irresponsible whore sounds right to me.


35 posted on 08/16/2007 7:53:04 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Geez, my Grandma was married at 16 and she turned out OK.

I may be getting older, but most of the 16 year olds I hung out with would jump at a chance to experiment on a 40 year old hot babe, in fact they would have walked over broken glass with bare feet to do it.

36 posted on 08/16/2007 7:54:21 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Cat loving Texan

What a bunch of idiots:

1. The woman of course for breaking the law and telling everyone by buying the kid a cell phone etc.

2. The judge for not understanding justice and the law a single bit. I am sure the judge probably “read” the litteral text correctly, but the purpose of criminal law is to protect society. Society has little interest in underage consensual sex between two people who plan to marry. Society has little interest in consensual sex when the burden, ie in resulting children, will fall on the of aged party.

3. The jury in allowing an idiot prosecutor and and idiot judge to cost them and the rest of the Texas tax payers paying for this woman’s incarceration for at least 11.5 years? Have they not heard of jury nullification? Just because some government blowhard says they should sanction the government paying to incarcerate her for a long time for this act, does not mean they must go along with it.

What a bunch of idiots under the sway of “feminism” considering statutory rape and rape essentially the same crime. I wonder what she would have gotten for a sentence if she had taken a gun and forced a random male of her choice into sex? The kids parents seem to be the only ones with any sense.


37 posted on 08/16/2007 7:54:42 AM PDT by JLS
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
You’re nuts. As George Carlin so aptly observed, “They’re not victims, They’re lucky b@stards!”

In the short-term. But their ability to relate with women their own age will be hampered.

38 posted on 08/16/2007 7:54:46 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Lazamataz
"Check out her other picture, she clearly committed no heinous crime in that photo!"

I agree. She looks pretty innocent for 41.

39 posted on 08/16/2007 7:55:54 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: John Jorsett
” I’ve been in favor of lowering the age of consent (for males at least) to 16,”

I must have missed something over the past few decades...
When I was young, the age of consent WAS 16! (for both sexes in most states!) There was even a humorous saying that reflected the fact: “15 will get you 20(years)!” and 15 year old girls were known as “Jailbait.”
When did the nanny-states raise the age of consent?

40 posted on 08/16/2007 7:59:32 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: Cat loving Texan
Now if she had only been a pastor's wife that killed her husband, fled the scene and claimed 'abuse'............

She would only serve 2 months

41 posted on 08/16/2007 8:01:05 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Tribune7

“That’s seriously extreme. Common sense is out the window in our judicial system.”

This same judge would probably hand a sentence of probation to a terrorist.


42 posted on 08/16/2007 8:05:58 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Cat loving Texan
People don't like to hear this, but there should be different standards for males on females on this. 16 year old girls are victims. 16 year old boys spend every waking moment trying to get into a woman's pants, especially an older woman. This sentence is bullsh!t.
43 posted on 08/16/2007 8:11:13 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
When did the nanny-states raise the age of consent?

It varies by state, ranging from 16 to 18. I think it ought to be 16 everywhere.

44 posted on 08/16/2007 8:14:17 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: 353FMG
This same judge would probably hand a sentence of probation to a terrorist.

Well, now that you bring it up, Johnny Walker Lindh got just 20 years.

45 posted on 08/16/2007 8:14:19 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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“I may be getting older, but most of the 16 year olds I hung out with would jump at a chance to experiment on a 40 year old hot babe, in fact they would have walked over broken glass with bare feet to do it.”

Well she doesn’t look like “hot babe” but she is a MILF and that seems to be all it takes these days.


46 posted on 08/16/2007 8:15:59 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of Archie Bunker's School of Conservatism [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
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To: All

Only in Texas:

“Judge Billy Ray Stubblefield”


47 posted on 08/16/2007 8:16:48 AM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Graduate of Archie Bunker's School of Conservatism [http://digitalfarmers.blogspot.com])
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To: KarlInOhio
This wasn’t a statutory rape case. It was a sexual assault case. He was probably too old for it to be a statutory rape case. I believe he was 16 at the time of the sexual encounters. It looks like she admitted to police two instances where she performed oral sex on him, but later was saying it didn’t happen. No allegation of sexual intercourse was made. I think the boy said she performed oral sex on him twice for about 30 minutes each time. Maybe he doesn’t know the difference between a second and a minute. I am not certain, but I think the age of consent in Texas is 17. If she had have waited a year the worst they could have gotten her with is something like contributing to the delinquency of a minor. In my state the age of consent is 16. Having sex with someone under the age of 18 is still likely to get you in trouble, but it would be a misdemeanor and not considered a sex crime.

Here is a link to a more informative article about the case: http://www.590klbj.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=72995

48 posted on 08/16/2007 8:20:43 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: DesScorp
but there should be different standards for males [and] females on this

What about transsexuals or hermaphrodites?

49 posted on 08/16/2007 8:22:16 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Abathar
Geez, my Grandma was married at 16 and she turned out OK.

I have a great uncle who got married when he was 21. His bride was 15. That was over sixty years ago and they're still together.
50 posted on 08/16/2007 8:23:03 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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