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HP Sees Huge Linux Desktop Deals
CRN ^ | March 6th | Edward F. Moltzen

Posted on 03/08/2007 6:15:03 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

Hewlett-Packard is closing custom deals for thousands of desktop PCs running Linux, which has the company assessing the possibility of offering factory-loaded Linux systems, an HP executive said.

"We are involved in a number of massive deals for Linux desktops, and those are the kinds of things that are indicators of critical mass. So we are really looking at it very hard," said Doug Small, worldwide director of open source and Linux marketing at HP. "We are in a massive deal right now for ... multi-thousands of units of a desktop opportunity for Linux. That's an indicator." He declined to give details about the Linux deals.

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To: AFPhys
So far I've not tried Ubuntu... I really don't like that name at all, for one...

Bill Clinton has been known to drop it on occasion too.

21 posted on 03/08/2007 4:24:46 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
'Vista' has a total suxor licensing scheme. You can install it on one computer, and if that computer breaks or is replaced, on a second one. After that you get to fork over your money all over again.

XP will be the last version of windows for me. I guess I will have to get penguinfied.

22 posted on 03/08/2007 4:25:46 PM PST by LibKill (Rudy is willing to lie his way to power. Do not trust him, look at his record.)
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To: dennisw
Look at Bill Gates blow his wad on idiotic charity schemes.

Have you even looked over the contributions listed on gatesfoundation.com? That's an awfully broad statement to try and claim they are all just a waste of money.

That's what suckers have been paying for for years

Well I don't just give my money away, and I remember buying software that has served me well for years. If Gates wants to give it away to charity, good for him, I can think of lots worse places it could go.

23 posted on 03/08/2007 4:42:10 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: LibKill
You can install it on one computer, and if that computer breaks or is replaced, on a second one. After that you get to fork over your money all over again.

Microsoft removes transfer limitations from Vista

24 posted on 03/08/2007 4:46:07 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Nice, at least some of the suckiness has been removed.


25 posted on 03/08/2007 4:47:36 PM PST by LibKill (Rudy is willing to lie his way to power. Do not trust him, look at his record.)
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To: DesScorp
Linux will not take off big until business standardizes an interface

It's more than just the interface that's fragmented, even the disk format is a warground. These folks just can't get along, ever heard of "Ice Weasel"?

26 posted on 03/08/2007 4:51:59 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: dfwgator

I installed Ubuntu on a 533MHZ Celeron laptop I have here, with 192Meg memory.

The machine will turn on the fan if it gets hot - with Windows on it, the fan only occasionally comes on. With Ubuntu, it is on ALL THE TIME.

The mouse setup is almost completely unusable. Do a Google on Ubuntu and Mouse and you will see what I mean. It skips... then it stops. It jumps to areas of the screen I haven't even been near.

Now mouse technology is not exactly bleeding edge. I've run with a mouse on DOS 6.2 machines with no problems whatever.


Ubuntu.
Thumbs down. Not anywhere near ready for prime time.


27 posted on 03/08/2007 4:55:53 PM PST by djf (Democracy - n, def: The group that gets PAID THE MOST ends up VOTING THE MOST See: TRAGEDY)
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To: Space Wrangler
Dell got scared.

Dell started in his garage and is now a billionaire. Nobody will be doing that with Linux.

28 posted on 03/08/2007 4:56:51 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: starbase
At the risk of going totally off topic, whenever I see an article about Microsoft now, I think about the scene in Excalibur where Merlin confronts Uther:
Merlin: It's not for you, Uther......hearth and home, wife and child.
Uther: To kill and be king, is that all?
Merlin: Perhaps not even that.
Uther: You strike me with words hard as steel.
Merlin: You betrayed the Duke, you stole his wife......you took his castle, now no one trusts you.
MS used it's power to threaten computer manufacturers that carried other OS systems. They ran many software companies out of business. They just backstabbed the companies that signed on for the "Microsoft Plays for Sure" partnership by making the Zune incompatible with "Plays for Sure." One of the reasons MS is having so much trouble penetrating other markets is because companies know what MS does once it gets dominance in a market. Sony and Nintendo compete against each other, but they both hate MS. Michael Dell has been writing articles and almost begging Jobs to let Dell release an OSX machine.

I'll stick with Apple, but Linux may be the OS to give the other manufacturers a choice in computer manufacturing. FWIW, a lot of the Linux guys are going to look back fondly on the days of being obscure and tweaking the OS, and speaking their own language that no one else understood. I don't say that because of the canard about virus attacks. I say that because there's something cool about being a pioneer. I suspect when Linux hits it big, some of the current Linux afficianados will look at another OS, or continue to create niche OS interfaces. Not because they're snobs or elitists, but because they're pioneers, and once a path gets a little too worn, they want to head for the wild country.

29 posted on 03/08/2007 5:17:05 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Why yes, I do have a stupid picture for any occasion)
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To: Golden Eagle

That's absolutely wonderful for Michael Dell. What that has to do with this thread, I have no idea.


30 posted on 03/08/2007 5:20:41 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Space Wrangler

Dell is too smart to waste his time on Linux. If somebody thinks they can beat him to the Linux market, he obviously left the door wide open for you. More likely they'll continue to lob potshots at the man, rather than realize the failings of their "community" product.


31 posted on 03/08/2007 5:37:34 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat

Visio was much better back before they got bought out by MSFT.


32 posted on 03/08/2007 5:40:36 PM PST by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Dell is too smart to waste his time on Linux.

Dell already uses Linux. I just configured and installed a PowerEdge server that came direct from the factory with Red Hat installed.

33 posted on 03/08/2007 7:43:09 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Space Wrangler

Check the title thread police. Desktops not servers.


34 posted on 03/08/2007 7:55:15 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Oh....so Linux is a viable option on servers, just not desktops? Correct? I only brought it up in response to your 'Dell is too smart to mess with Linux' line, which obviously isn't the case. And they obviously thought they could be profitable with offering a desktop version before getting yanked back into line by MS and backing away after making the announcement.

I think I understand you aren't much of a Linux fan, but I can tell you from a professional point of view that it's coming. To desktops, laptops, servers, handhelds, etc. etc. Will it put MS out of business? Not a chance. But it most certainly [b]will[/b] become a viable option for many, many people. It already is.

35 posted on 03/08/2007 8:23:19 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: Space Wrangler
they obviously thought they could be profitable with offering a desktop version before getting yanked back into line by MS and backing away after making the announcement.

And your proof of this claim is? There is none that I know of. The facts are Dell already tried to offer Linux on the desktop, but pulled it due to losses.

I understand you aren't much of a Linux fan, but I can tell you from a professional point of view that it's coming.

From who, on the desktop? Look at the top PC sales vendors, none offer Linux on a "desktop", only expensive workstations or servers sold to businesses that cost a premium. The day Red Hat or Suse can charge enough for their products to kick some back to Dell to pay for their support costs is the day Dell starts offering it preinstalled. Obviously that point is nowhere near.

36 posted on 03/08/2007 8:31:29 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: cbkaty

^^^^^^^^^^^^^Bill Gates, the billionaire socialist that opposes any repeal of the death tax, will eventually be put in his place....of course he is not faced with losing the family farm...he can stand to lose $500,000,000 in estate taxes...^^^^^^^^^^^^

Shhhh!!! Don't say that too loud. We have plenty of posters around here who aren't aware of Billy's political slant.

As you know, only Stallmanites are leftists.

Jobs? He's not a leftist either.

*sarcasm*


37 posted on 03/08/2007 8:38:19 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: LibKill

Now, if only they could remove the bloat.


38 posted on 03/08/2007 8:40:21 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle; Space Wrangler

^^^^^^^^^^^^Dell started in his garage and is now a billionaire. Nobody will be doing that with Linux.^^^^^^^^^^^^

You've never heard of Marc Ewing, have you?

http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/timeline.html

^^^^^^^^^^^^1994
Marc Ewing creates his own distribution of Linux which he names Red Hat Linux. Released in October, it becomes known as the Halloween release.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What are the possibilities that he was somewhere in the area of his garage when he did this?

He may not be a *B*illionaire, but I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank.

If things keep up, he may very well end up being a billionaire.


39 posted on 03/08/2007 8:45:06 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^^^^^The day Red Hat or Suse can charge enough for their products to kick some back to Dell to pay for their support costs is the day Dell starts offering it preinstalled. Obviously that point is nowhere near.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's sort of a red herring argument. Linux doesn't require anything like the amount of upkeep that a windows machine does.

It's about on par with a mac. OS 9 or 10. They just don't need much upkeep.

The most upkeep that I do personally is my browser cache. Talk about a backbreaker.

Hey, is your spyware software up to date? :-)


40 posted on 03/08/2007 8:49:54 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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