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Tony Bennett: 'America is culturally void'
Contact Music ^ | 8/22/06

Posted on 08/22/2006 12:27:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Legendary singer Tony Bennett has slammed his home country of America for not contributing anything other than jazz music to world art and culture.

The If I Ruled The World crooner feels that Europe and Asia offer far more culturally than America does.

Bennett says, "I have travelled around the world to Asia and Europe. They show you what they have contributed to the world. The British show you theatre, the Italians show you music and art, the French show you cooking and painting, and the Germans show you science.

"The only thing that the United States, which is still a young country, has contributed culturally to the world is jazz - elongated improvisation. It's tragic."

And Bennett feels that Americans don't even appreciate the impact of jazz in popular culture.

He says, "Fifty years from now people will be bowing to Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker, just like impressionist painters like Monet, who were starving in their day. The Americans don't even know what they have come up with."


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KEYWORDS: america; culturally; culturewar; tonybennett; void
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1 posted on 08/22/2006 12:27:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

And comics. And the mystery novel.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 12:30:11 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: NormsRevenge

And Blues. And Country. And Rock and Roll.


3 posted on 08/22/2006 12:30:28 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe Bennett should bestow himself on another country.


4 posted on 08/22/2006 12:30:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Gotta tell ya, when you look at the hip-hop culture and the music, I think Tony has a point.


5 posted on 08/22/2006 12:30:51 PM PDT by NRA1995 (Zarqawi died, liberals cried....)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bennett says, "I have travelled around the world to Asia and Europe. They show you what they have contributed to the world. The British show you theatre, the Italians show you music and art, the French show you cooking and painting, and the Germans show you science.

Moron, if it wasn't for the U.S., they'd all be showing you their portraits of Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini.
6 posted on 08/22/2006 12:31:22 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: All

Bob Dylan says modern music is worthless

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1688105/posts


7 posted on 08/22/2006 12:31:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NRA1995

Tony Bennett was as suprised as anyone when he got to appear on MTV in the 1990s.


8 posted on 08/22/2006 12:31:28 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: NormsRevenge
The British show you theatre... and we gave the world moving pictures. ...the Italians show you music and art... I thought we gave the world jazz? Oh, and don't forget the blues, rock n' roll, and I apologize for rap. ...the French show you cooking and painting...three words: bar-b-que ....and the Germans show you science...and we give the world the microprocessor, etc.
9 posted on 08/22/2006 12:34:50 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey, Bennett idiot: if it weren't for the US, they'd be lampshades or bars of soap!

Hells bells, we gave the world Fluff & PeanutButter Sandwiches, Jello, Spam, soap operas, game shows... I could go on and on.

Heh.


10 posted on 08/22/2006 12:35:29 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: NormsRevenge

If it can be called "a slice of Americana" then it is culturally significant and a contribution to the world.


11 posted on 08/22/2006 12:38:04 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: randog

Some French brothers invented moving pictures but the science and technology were improved, refined, and perfected in America, the land of opportunity.


12 posted on 08/22/2006 12:39:55 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: weegee

And technology. and photography. and the ability to travel to the moon and stars. and long slow, deep seductive kisses that last thru a rainstorm.


13 posted on 08/22/2006 12:40:26 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: NormsRevenge

He's gonna be doing a duet with the Banana Boat Man?


14 posted on 08/22/2006 12:40:34 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

That "moron" fought in the Battle of the Bulge.


15 posted on 08/22/2006 12:41:32 PM PDT by LN2Campy
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

He's a singer. We don't expect singers to be political geniuses or philosophers except Dylan. He's trying to point out something that we know already but keep ignoring since it didn't happen in the past five minutes.


16 posted on 08/22/2006 12:44:47 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: traditional1

He's gonna be doing a duet with the Banana Boat Man?


I wouldn't go quite that far.. lol


17 posted on 08/22/2006 12:45:16 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NRA1995

I agree,
the man has a point.

We don't create lasting art or great music anymore.


18 posted on 08/22/2006 12:45:57 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: NormsRevenge
BZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTT. He's wrong:

AlGore invented the Internet....

Of course, whether he's an "American" or not is subject to interpretation.

19 posted on 08/22/2006 12:48:52 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: NormsRevenge
I'll give Bennett the benefit of the doubt that he's getting senile. However, this non-existing American culture he's going on about sure seems to be sweeping the world.

Start with the culture of representative democracy. The United States of America was the first and is the oldest functional representative democracy in the world.

Then think of the culture of political parties. We may or may not think this is so wonderful, but the good old USA gave birth to modern political parties.

How about "little" cultural things like the steam engine, electric lights, the assembly line, the polio vaccine, personal computers, skyscrapers, and similar things that Americans have contributed to the modern world? How about that good old brash American can-do spirit that yanked Europe and the world back from the brink in WWI, WWII and the Cold War?

How about the American musical theater, early Hollywood, the golden age of Hollywood, and television? How about the great songwriters who literally invented popular music and gave Bennett his material to sing? The Gershwins, Jerome Kern, Jonny Mercer, Irving Berlin, Cole Porter, Rodgers and Hammerstein...the list is very long indeed.

How about Gable, Stewart, Wayne, Cooper, Grant, Bogart, Hepburn (both Audrey and Katharine), Garland, Monroe, Astaire and Rogers, and the whole panoply of stars who defined the very essence of what it is to be a movie star.

How about Sinatra, Garland (again), Crosby, Elvis, and the whole long list of great singers who made American popular music the most pervasive musical form in the world?

How about the moon landings, the space race, and all consumer items that resulted from it?

How about interstate highways, mass marketing of automobiles, the modern advertising industry, bikini bathing suits, transistors, the list of American inventions and cultural contributions goes on and on and on.

So Bennett should sit down and shut up, because he's making a fool of himself.

20 posted on 08/22/2006 12:50:15 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: NormsRevenge
Ol' Antonio has lost it.

He should try spending some time in Appalachia.
Plenty of culture there and it's all-American. Story-telling, cooking, work ethic, music, art...the works.
Mr. Benedetto is a senile old boob.

21 posted on 08/22/2006 12:53:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Dawn of light...lying between a silence and sold sources...)
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To: NormsRevenge

You know, I really don't care about whether we as a people have created art, literature, and music to the liking of the elites in Europe. While they were playing, painting and writing, we were inventing. Things like the cotton gin, steam engine, steel plow, reaper, thresher, combine, sewing machine, railroad, telegraph, telephone, electric light, air conditioning, air planes, synthetic cloths, the transistor, and computers. The list is unending. Not to mention faster systems of manufacture of nearly everything.


22 posted on 08/22/2006 12:53:49 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: NormsRevenge
Gershwin, I.M. Pei, Andy Warhol, The American Space Program,American cinema and televison,F. Scott Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Capote, ee cummings, Webster,Frank lloyd Wright, Henery Ford, Thomas Edison, Mark Levin, Abraham Lincoln, George Carver Washington,Ray Charles, Elvis, Little Richard, baseball, Etta James, Blue jeans, Duke Ellington, The Ballet of Harlem, Harry James, Leonard Bernstein, Tommy Tune, Rogers and Hart, Lerner and Lowe.Won WW1. Won WW2 Greatest Generation.

Asians learn english. Moslems hate us becuase of our culture "corrupting" theirs. Europeans envy us. Mexicans are over running us because of our culture.

But I digress....

23 posted on 08/22/2006 12:55:39 PM PDT by llevrok (When you take my gin from my cold, dead hand....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tony Who?


24 posted on 08/22/2006 12:58:29 PM PDT by Draco
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To: najida
We don't create lasting art or great music anymore. Hey - Star Trek will be around forever. And it's hard to beat some of Patsy Cline's work! :-)
25 posted on 08/22/2006 1:06:24 PM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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To: theDentist

From Life of Brian


REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

XERXES:Brought peace.

REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up! [bam bam bam bam bam bam bam]
[bam bam bam bam bam]


26 posted on 08/22/2006 1:07:22 PM PDT by Gaetano
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To: llevrok

Lyle Lovett, Ray Benson


27 posted on 08/22/2006 1:08:35 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: 80 Square Miles

OK,
Patsy Cline I agree with,
And while I am a Star Trek fan,
I don't know if I would claim it as culture ;)


28 posted on 08/22/2006 1:13:32 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: weegee
I think Edison was the first to project film -- at least according to about.com. The Lumiere Brothers were the first to do it commercially to an audience.

The Cinematographe made motion pictures very popular, and it could be better be said that Lumiere's invention began the motion picture era. In 1895, Lumiere and his brother were the first to present projected, moving, photographic, pictures to a paying audience of more that one person.

The Lumiere brothers were not the first to project film. In 1891, the Edison company successfully demonstrated the Kinetoscope, which enabled one person at a time to view moving pictures. Later in 1896, Edison showed his improved Vitascope projector and it was the first commercially, successful, projector in the U.S..

29 posted on 08/22/2006 1:45:07 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: randog
The British show you theatre... and we gave the world moving pictures. ...the Italians show you music and art... I thought we gave the world jazz? Oh, and don't forget the blues, rock n' roll, and I apologize for rap. ...the French show you cooking and painting...three words: bar-b-que ....and the Germans show you science...and we give the world the microprocessor, etc.


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Nice reply to another hate America first guy, who would be nothing if not for America....I guess he left his heart in San Fransisco.
30 posted on 08/22/2006 1:45:12 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: weegee
but the science and technology were improved, refined, and perfected in America, the land of opportunity.

Because as you alluded, Americans have been people of vision.

"The cinema is an invention without a future" - Louis Lumière

31 posted on 08/22/2006 1:49:59 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: NormsRevenge

I like Tony Bennett's music. But I wonder if he includes his own work as a part of America's failure to contribute anything to world culture. I doubt that he would, because that would be admitting that he's become very rich and very famous for doing nothing.

If he had taken this in a different direction-- for example, that a lot of artistic expression in America is junk, that would be true. It would also be true for Britain and France and Italy and Germany and everywhere else. But for him to overlook all of the accomplishments of Americans in art, music, literature, film, and even media such as radio, not to mention science and technology, and to boil it all down to jazz which --he says -- none of us appreciates anyway, is astounding.


32 posted on 08/22/2006 1:51:48 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bennett says, "I have travelled around the world to Asia and Europe. They show you what they have contributed to the world. The British show you theatre, the Italians show you music and art, the French show you cooking and painting, and the Germans show you science.

It's safe to say that all the cultural contributions of Europe preceeded World War II - if not 1900. The American Constitution is our contribution to the world, deliniating the best form of government for educated, civilized men and women.
33 posted on 08/22/2006 1:52:06 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Chianti, Italy by Tony Bennett

I think Tony might have a point. /s

34 posted on 08/22/2006 1:58:23 PM PDT by elli1
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To: NormsRevenge
America also created this: This item "created" cultural voids about the size of .45 inches in diameter.
35 posted on 08/22/2006 2:01:16 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: NormsRevenge

Well, Frankie, who invented the phonograph that enabled you to become a recording star? Television? The light bulb? Movies? The airplane that flies you all over the world? Telephones...regular and cell? The computer revolution? Frank, you wouldn't have had much of a career without the fantastic PRODUCTIVE, CREATIVE culture of the good old USA. You and the Dixie Chicks should just shut up and sing.


36 posted on 08/22/2006 2:03:21 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: najida

Dr Who, then? :-)


37 posted on 08/22/2006 2:05:52 PM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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To: 80 Square Miles

OK,
The Tardis could be held up as a great work,
sorta like...
like...

The Golden Arches??


38 posted on 08/22/2006 2:07:33 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida

Except, after I posted that, I remembered - Dr. Who is a BBC production.

How about Babylon 5?


39 posted on 08/22/2006 2:16:16 PM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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To: weegee
And Blues. And Country. And Rock and Roll.

We gave the world Bluegrass music, too. Of course, it's not as 'sophisticated' as fat women in strange costumes and men in tights bellowing out songs in an unintelligible language, but it's OURS.

And cooking? Give me a break. Southern fried chicken, Tex Mex, Soul food, Calabash style seafood, pig pickin's. Our food is real.

Science? Last I checked, we're still the only country on this planet to have a flag stuck in the surface of the moon. BMW's are nice cars but I don't think any of them have ever left the planet.

We may not be perceived as 'sophisticated' like the Europeans but we're real, we're honest and if you get in trouble, we'll help you out.

So, since we're our brothers keeper, the rest of the world should at least entertain us.

Hey Frenchie! How's bout whipping me up some Southern Fried Chicken while I watch these Italian fags dance around in tights and look at paintings by a guy that cut his ear off. And when the Islamofags get ready to take over your country, we'll bail you out.......again.

40 posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:16 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: NormsRevenge
"The only thing that the United States, which is still a young country, has contributed culturally to the world is jazz - elongated improvisation. It's tragic."

Thank God America invented the internet so I could read tripe like that.
41 posted on 08/22/2006 2:26:16 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: NRA1995
Gotta tell ya, when you look at the hip-hop culture and the music, I think Tony has a point.

I agree somewhat with Tony. Frankly what recently has stood for American Pop Culture sucks, and I believe it does not reflect well on this country.

42 posted on 08/22/2006 2:30:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BJClinton
Thank God America invented the internet so I could read tripe like that.

And thank God for Al Gore on that, specifically. llevrok running for cover......

43 posted on 08/22/2006 2:31:05 PM PDT by llevrok (When you take my gin from my cold, dead hand....)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tony, STFU. You know nothing about culture you little prick.


44 posted on 08/22/2006 3:06:57 PM PDT by pissant
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To: NormsRevenge

Fifty years from now nobody will even recognize the name, Tony Bennet, except for the occasional disconnected geek doing non-publishable research on musical anomalies of the past century.


45 posted on 08/22/2006 3:32:39 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah wake me up when another country produces a Frank Zappa.


46 posted on 08/22/2006 3:46:41 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tony Bennet . . .

Just never construed him to be a paragon example of . . . culture.

We may not have the 7,000 years of cultural depth that China has . . . but we sure have blessed a lot of people around the world with hospitals, schools and most importantly THE GOSPEL.

In eternity . . . I suspect that will count for a lot more than China's 7,000 years of culture.

GOD IS THE BOSS.

THE BOSS WINS.

THE BOSS IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

Thankfully THE BOSS is Love personafied.


47 posted on 08/22/2006 3:50:24 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: weegee

Hmmmmm

The Blues, Country and Rock & Roll.

God have mercy on us if that constitutes some of our main cultural contributions to life and the pursuit of happiness.

Though there are some Country ballads I like.

Sons of the Pioneers era is my preference.

And Marty Robbins.


48 posted on 08/22/2006 3:51:43 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: NRA1995

Gotta tell ya, when you look at the hip-hop culture and the music, I think Tony has a point.
= = = =

Sadly we have been over energetic at majoring in minors and minoring in majors in our culture.


49 posted on 08/22/2006 3:52:47 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: dfwgator

Hey dude. Randy Travis, George Striaght, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, even Toby Keith. They will be remebered more fondly than Bennet in 50 years. He's so damn overrated its pathetic.


50 posted on 08/22/2006 3:55:39 PM PDT by pissant
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