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Man Gets Prison For Stabbing Niece's Dog (9 years!)
The Indy Channel ^ | July 28, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/28/2006 10:18:14 AM PDT by Abathar

LOS ANGELES -- A Los Angeles man has been sentenced to nine years in state prison for stabbing his niece's German shepherd between the eyes.

The dog survived the November attack.

The judge issued the maximum sentence to Hugo Vargas Garcia, despite a defense attorney's plea that he is a paranoid schizophrenic.

The dog's owner, Judy Ream, and her husband testified during the trial that they saw Garcia plunge a Swiss Army knife into their 2-year-old dog's skull because he was upset by its barking. Ream pleaded with the judge to show no leniency, contending that Garcia showed no remorse.

Garcia did not hear his sentence because the judge ordered him removed from the courtroom for repeatedly screaming at the prosecutor.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: animalcruelty; animalrights; doggieping
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Wow, now that's what we refer to around here as a "Hanging Judge".

If he was going to do that to a dog then it's only a matter of time before it was another guys head that was going to get it, but 9 years on that assumtion only? He really must have ticked the judge off big time to get that sentance.

1 posted on 07/28/2006 10:18:16 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar
If he had stabbed his niece...in Massachusetts...he would have gotten 9 months.

Probation

2 posted on 07/28/2006 10:19:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Abathar

Good riddance!


3 posted on 07/28/2006 10:19:48 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Abathar

Too bad this judge wasn't on the Andrea Yates case.


4 posted on 07/28/2006 10:20:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Abathar

Stab Dog (Crazy) = 9 years
Drown Children (Crazy) = Not guilty.

Hmmm. Makes sense to me /sarc

P.S. I like dogs and think they guy probably deserved this -- if nothing else it keeps a crazy guy off the streets for awhile.


5 posted on 07/28/2006 10:20:08 AM PDT by tdewey10 (It's time for the party to return to the principles of President Reagan.)
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To: Abathar

Was the dogs name Sam and did Sam tell the perp to plunge in that knife?


6 posted on 07/28/2006 10:21:12 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Abathar

Prediction: Someone will state that the judge was too lenient before this thread clicks over to post 51.


7 posted on 07/28/2006 10:21:12 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: tdewey10

Oh I totally agree, I think it should have been 5 years and 100 lashes in the public square but hey, I am getting more mellow in my old age...


8 posted on 07/28/2006 10:21:55 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Abathar
Wow, now that's what we refer to around here as a "Hanging Judge".

Looks like the judge determined (by all accounts correctly) that this guy is a freakin' psychopath and wanted to keep him off the streets for as long as she could. We'll probably read about Mr. Garcia again in a few years.

9 posted on 07/28/2006 10:22:06 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Abathar
. . . the judge ordered him removed from the courtroom for repeatedly screaming at the prosecutor. . . .

There's the reason -- guy is obviously and totally out of control, and he doesn't confine his attentions to members of his own family (domestic altercations have traditionally resulted in more lenient sentences because of the emotional component). Also, even though the article doesn't mention it I bet he's got a string of prior offenses. Folks don't get like this all at once.

10 posted on 07/28/2006 10:22:30 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: tdewey10

Women have been given a license to kill.


11 posted on 07/28/2006 10:22:40 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: Abathar

Yeah, a guy can't stab a dog anymore without some uppity judge getting his panties in an uproar over it.


12 posted on 07/28/2006 10:22:57 AM PDT by cydcharisse
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To: HairOfTheDog

Woof!


13 posted on 07/28/2006 10:23:49 AM PDT by CSM ("Most men's inappropriate thoughts end as soon as the girl talks..." - Dinsdale, 5/30/06)
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To: Abathar
Garcia did not hear his sentence because the judge ordered him removed from the courtroom for repeatedly screaming at the prosecutor.

They should've stabbed him between the eyes to shut him up.

14 posted on 07/28/2006 10:24:06 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Michael.SF.

I know, I live on a farm and if this judge saw me blow the brains out of a cow we are going to butcher he would probably cite me too. I guess its dependant on "feelings" more than the law.


15 posted on 07/28/2006 10:24:40 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Michael.SF.
Prediction: Someone will state that the judge was too lenient before this thread clicks over to post 51.

That judge was too lenient! (Sorry, I just had to do it;^) )
16 posted on 07/28/2006 10:25:50 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Thats me, he could rot the tough guy, hopefully he will meet some "friendly dawgs" in his cell


17 posted on 07/28/2006 10:26:22 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: Michael.SF.
"Prediction: Someone will state that the judge was too lenient before this thread clicks over to post 51."

Real justice would have been letting the dog stab him between the eyes. Where was the judge on that one?
18 posted on 07/28/2006 10:26:55 AM PDT by xpertskir (McCain Lieberman '08(democratic ticket))
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To: Abathar
You are exactly right on both counts. 2 years might have been more appropriate, but sill glad to him off the street for awhile.

RW
19 posted on 07/28/2006 10:28:04 AM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: italianquaker
People who would pointlessly and for no reason harm animals are sick anyway. Serial killers have been found to do that when they're children.
20 posted on 07/28/2006 10:28:08 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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Hey everyone, make Michael.SF.'s say and say there is no justice unless the guy gets the chair. :~)

Ping!


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21 posted on 07/28/2006 10:30:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Abathar
...because he was upset by its barking. Ream pleaded with the judge to show no leniency, contending that Garcia showed no remorse.

The woman aborted the baby because she was upset at the prospect of having a baby before she was ready to take care of it.

"Babies cry all the time," said the woman. "I just wasn't prepared to deal with it's whining and noise!"

The Judge showed understanding, contending that the woman does not need to show remorse over the killing of a human being before it is born.

"Children can be a problem when it comes to peace and quiet," the judge remarked.

22 posted on 07/28/2006 10:31:40 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Your Republic...if you can keep it!)
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To: italianquaker

Oh really, you apparently think jusice would be served by his getting raped in prison? If that's the case, you're sicker than he is.


23 posted on 07/28/2006 10:33:13 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: HairOfTheDog
No justice unless the guy gets the chair!
24 posted on 07/28/2006 10:33:37 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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To: LibWhacker; mrsmel
They should've stabbed him between the eyes to shut him up.

LOL! Now that would've shut up his "barking"...talk about "poetic justice"...hehehe!

mrsmel, you beat me to it...but someone had to say it! ;)

25 posted on 07/28/2006 10:33:52 AM PDT by 88keys (some things are intriguing to contemplate)
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To: Michael.SF.
Prediction: Someone will state that the judge was too lenient before this thread clicks over to post 51

The judge was too damn lenient. The scumbag should have gotten life!
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26 posted on 07/28/2006 10:36:36 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Abathar

It's well known that German shepherds, like SUVs, can direct their human charges to perform criminal acts. Maybe this guy deserves a medal for not listening to the voices.


27 posted on 07/28/2006 10:39:08 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Abathar

Yep, gotta practice on dogs first.


28 posted on 07/28/2006 10:40:38 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Michael.SF.
all together now...

the chair! the CHAIR!

And seriously...9 years is not too long when the guy is obviously mentally disturbed and dangerously violent. Just because Andrea Yates got the wrong sentence doesn't mean this guy should too, and it's really nothing to do with dogs or women, IMHO!

29 posted on 07/28/2006 10:41:11 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: Abathar

If only that crazy Ohio judge Edward Connor would give a sentence like that to repeat child rapists. But no, Connor gives them a pass instead.


30 posted on 07/28/2006 10:43:02 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: mrsmel
There is one in every crowd!

;)

31 posted on 07/28/2006 10:52:41 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: HairOfTheDog
OK, you have made my say.

Don't you hate it when others are right and that animal lovers are sooo predictable!

32 posted on 07/28/2006 10:55:53 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: Michael.SF.

I'm just glad I was able to help :~)


33 posted on 07/28/2006 10:58:09 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Michael.SF.
animal lovers are sooo predictable!

As are the animal haters. ;~D

34 posted on 07/28/2006 11:03:40 AM PDT by ecurbh (Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Abathar; Indy Pendance; Still German Shepherd; dervish; Dick Vomer; Kozak; Joe 6-pack; joesnuffy; ..
GERMAN SHEPHERD PING LIST

(Please Freep-mail me if you’d like to be on or off the list.)

35 posted on 07/28/2006 11:04:22 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Abathar

It does seem a bit extreme of a sentence - actually, I'm not sure why he got jail at all. Definitely some kind of punishment, but jail?


36 posted on 07/28/2006 11:05:36 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: ecurbh

And those who say "Of course if this had been a (fill in the blank, baby killer/murderer/child molester) he'd have got off scott-free! We get those on every thread too.

Heh... Everyone is predictable.


37 posted on 07/28/2006 11:05:39 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Lucky for the perp, he did not make the mistake of trying to stab the two-headed shepherd....


38 posted on 07/28/2006 11:08:31 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I ain't never seen one of those, but I do have a one headed horse with two bodies. ;~)


39 posted on 07/28/2006 11:20:35 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
As are the animal haters. ;~D

Do not include me on that list by implication. My comments in no way reflect a "hate" for animals, but just a more realistic placement on the value of a human life over that of a dog.

Does the guy deserve to be punished? YES

Does he deserve more time then someone who has committed a crime against a human? NO

Perspective, not hate.

Whenever this type of discussion comes up I am always mindful of the Xiana Fairchild case here in the bay area. A young girl was missing and a $10,000 reward was offered for info. At the same time, some jerk threw a dog (a breed similar in appearance to a poodle) into freeway traffic, the reward for this jerk was $25,000.

Perspective please. Animal lovers were more worked up over a dog then a little girl.

40 posted on 07/28/2006 11:24:15 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: Michael.SF.
;D
41 posted on 07/28/2006 11:30:12 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
One of these days we are going to see someone both stab a dog and kill a person at the same time. Then when both sentences are handed down you will see that the person gets double the time for the stabbing as for the killing. Do you think anyone will get it then....Nah probably not.
42 posted on 07/28/2006 11:36:00 AM PDT by Revel
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To: Michael.SF.

I agree with you on the need for perspective. There should definitely be more respect for human life,and stiffer sentences for murderers(abortionists,molestors,etc). They should burn. I don't see it happening in this sick society. In fact respect for human life is being lessened by the minute in this sick sad world.

I believe also that people who harm animals for no purposeful reason should get stiff puishment. Unfortunately,the same society that is trying to devalue human life has chosen putting animal life on a par with that of humans as one of their means of doing so. It's not the animal's fault.

It goes without saying,amongst any decent people,that it is heinous to value an animal life over that of a human. But after that is said and believed,it is heinous to gratuitously harm an animal.From such a mindset,that thinks nothing of inflicting harm on an innocent life,we get serial killers.

Not arguing with you at all-just "piggybacking" off your post to segue into my own point:)


43 posted on 07/28/2006 11:38:32 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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To: mrsmel
Thank you. Glad we are on the same page. Take care and enjoy.

Maybe they should have a pictionary for those little symbols, as I am not up to speed on all of them!

44 posted on 07/28/2006 11:41:42 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: Michael.SF.

S'okay, I see some doozies here-I wish I was so creative and had thought of them!


45 posted on 07/28/2006 11:45:07 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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To: Abathar
Just imagine what Hugo will be like after the nine years in prison.
46 posted on 07/28/2006 11:48:25 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (A challenge to Liberals: I will read any book you name - if you will do the same. (very few takers))
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To: HairOfTheDog
"I do have a one headed horse with two bodies."

Awesome...it's like the equestrian answer to a bicycle built for two, but I'll bet finding tack for that ride is hell....

47 posted on 07/28/2006 11:50:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Well, they're always arguing about which way to go :~D


48 posted on 07/28/2006 11:54:19 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Frank_2001

Well thats for faith to decide.


49 posted on 07/28/2006 12:00:16 PM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I have to admit,that I myself also make some distinctions between animals that man has domesticated and taught to live with us-such as dogs,and horses-and wild animals. I make further distinctions between animals such as bunny rabbits,and a venomous snake or a bull shark. I don't believe in going out of my way to harm any of them,and never sadistically-no matter what I think of a particular animal,there is my own mental health to think of,and sadism isn't a good sign of a healthy mentality-but I have no problem with killing a dangerous animal in a setting where it could hurt me or another human,or my dogs.


50 posted on 07/28/2006 12:02:46 PM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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