Just how evil can he be?
Posted on 07/21/2006 8:56:30 PM PDT by pcottraux
This shocking announcement has been made from "Batman-on-film.com."
I am kind of disappointed, to say the least. Personally, I was pulling for Australian actor Lachy Hulme, and he seemed to be the one most likely to get the role. I'm still not 100% positive this news announcement is true, but the editor of b.o.f. seems to think it's a done deal. Heath Ledger was in "Brokeback Mountain," "The Patriot," and "A Knight's Tale."
Just how evil can he be?
I'm optimistic that he has the range to play an evil madman. No, take that back. I bet he can play a diabolical evil man, but I'm not so sure if he can play a madman.
Then again, maybe his voice has gone up a few octaves since his last major role...
He's a boring actor. But then, although I liked aspects of it, Batman Begins wasn't all it was cracked up to be, and the villains were the weakest part.
Then the sequel will be better, right?
I had hopes for him after The Patriot. But after what he said about my country during the Brokeback BS, Ledger gets no more of my $$$.
Thought the movie was really well done.
I don't know, but I'd happily pay money to watch Christian Bale whip the snot out of him...
The movie rocked. Don't listen to what anyone else says.
He won't be getting your money. He's probably being paid a fixed amount for being in the movie. That will be the same whether people go to see it or not.
Heh! Explains the hollywood layoffs.
LOL! I remember it well.
TOO funny. I even read some to my Wife.
I've laughed pretty hard on FR, but I was in tears on that one!
When enough people get going like that, it never stops.
Possibly, but I won't know because I won't see it. All this comic book stuff is a big "Who cares?" to me, all retreading children's stuff. I wish some of these people would come up with something fresh and imaginative, instead of regurgitating the same old stuff that's been around for decades. Burton's Batman was a joke as far as telling an interesting story--all art direction; the sequels got progressively worse, except for Michelle Pfeiffer in the first. I sat through Batman Begins thinking "When is this 'oooooh, they're doing it DARK!' trend going to end and the 'That was an excellent STORY!' trend going to begin?
I liked that guy in 28 Days Later, at least the first half. But what is it about these superhero movies, they have to cram them full of secondary characters? It's like they're all nervous that the audience won't be able to process any character depth in a hero and a villain, so they make everyone a cipher and fill up the running time with mayhem and running around that doesn't add up to very much.
But Begins HAD an excellent story. It's probably got more substance, story, character development, and all that than any other comic book adaptation.
*shudder*
That is one seriously creepy dude. I think it's the prettiness...and something about his mouth gives me the willies.
He was in Red Eye, too...and even more creepy in that. Ech.
Well, the point of this series is that the character development is mostly from the main character (the superhero), and he is the focus of the entire story. The last Batman series were messy and unfocused...the villains overshadowed the hero, but in the end, the real stars were the special effects.
It did? What happened to it? They must have edited it out before it got to the theater.
It's probably got more substance, story, character development, and all that than any other comic book adaptation.
The version I saw must have been a different one. Character development? Substance? It was about a rich guy who becomes a crime fighter and the villain's identity is one of the silliest, most laughable "surprises" I've ever seen in a movie. I love his motication: He goes to years of effort helping corrupt the city so then it reaches such a level of corruption that he has an excuse to destroy it. Huh?!
Batman Begins is a joke, but Nolan is the trendy director of the moment, and it was DARK. (Now there's an innovation in a movie about a guy who prowls the night.)
It was silly, and comic books are meant to be silly. Don't deny it, enjoy it for the silliness it is. But anyone with a story sense beyond eighth-grade reading level wants a little more in imaginative movies.
My standards for this kind of movie are the original King Kong, Gunga Din, Blade Runner, Alien, Brazil, Heat, The Wild Bunch, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, etc. This flimsy example of art direction just doesn't measure up on any level.
Of course--I thought that went without saying. So where WAS his character development?
No, it was so intelligent, you missed it and it was way ahead of you.
He goes to years of effort helping corrupt the city so then it reaches such a level of corruption that he has an excuse to destroy it. Huh?!
Exactly. Huh?! I've seen the movie three times and I have no idea what you're talking about.
My standards for this kind of movie are the original King Kong, Gunga Din, Blade Runner, Alien, Brazil, Heat, The Wild Bunch, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, etc.
One of those may actually be a comic book-movie adaptation, but I think I missed it.
I'm starting to hate the "Batman Begins" haters even more than I hated the "Spider-Man 2" haters.
It was up there on the screen, happening. Pay attention next time.
I hope he comes back to play the Scarecrow again. He was wicked in that role.
~~He's a Joker~~
~~He's a Pole Smoker~~~
~~Buttmans gonna have some fuuuunnn~~~~~
All the lame comix series don't compare to Spidey and his green Impala of evil death!
This version is probably going to show the Joker as a more mysterious, nasty, contemptible character.
With this and Jake Gyllenhall doing Aquaman 2
What?
A little Entourage humor. On the show the main character did Aquaman but had a falling out with WB for the sequel. As a result they brought in Jake Gyllenhall. Which resulted in Jeremy Piven's agent character declaring it to be Brokeback Mother F'n Aquaman. I tried to find the clip but no one has put it up on youtube as yet.
All of the Batman movies (except for the George Clooney travesty) were taken from the Dark Knight Returns. I keep waiting for someone to make that, but they've hammered around it so much, I don't think they'll ever do it. Of the super hero movies, I think Spider-man and Spider-man 2 are the best. Tobey Maguire is believable as both Peter Parker and Spider-man. I've seen a trailer for Spider-man 3, and they're going into the black costume thing, which was after I quit reading it. It looks like Sandman will be one of the villains.
For a battle of super beings, Terminator 2 with the battle between Arnold and the T-1000 is still the best. Fantastic Four was okay. It reminded me of reading the comics. I kept tapping my foot when the Thing wasn't onscreen. The rest of the characters are kind of lame, and Reed Richards is a wuss, just like in the comics. Ben Grimm made the series (btw, trivia, the Thing is Jewish. No lie. Kirby made it part of his back story, but religion wasn't mentioned much in comics in the sixties).
Oh, okay. I think I remember hearing about that now.
Also Venom, and by the end, possibly Hobgoblin.
Won't be seeing this one....not with Ledger.
This is Ledger's 'reward' for agreeing to be in Brokeback Mountain....
...surely he sold his soul on that one expecting, and recieving choice parts in future movies.
No, I won't be seeing this one.
I'm sure he agreed to Brokeback on the basis of it is guaranteed Oscar bait. He joins a long distinguished list of actors who play a gay character to at least an Oscar nomination. I don't blame him for it. I will blame him, if he ruins the new Batman series by not turning in an equally great performance playing Batman's most iconic villian.
DAMN STUPID HOLLYWOOD! A great Joker would have been Al Pacino or Terrence Howard. AARRRGGHHH!
I wouldn't punish the movie based on a personal dislike of an actor in it. I couldn't care less what work Ledger has done in the past. As long as he's good in the rule (I don't if he will be), I'm game.
Pacino would have been wrong for the role, but don't know much about Howard.
Batman Begins was just awesome. It puts all the other comic-book movie adapations to shame. Only bad part - Katie Holmes as the DA.
I'll bet he gets it in the end in this one too.
Well, that answered that question.
Her acting was fine, but the character itself seemed unnecessary.
There's a rumor that she may get killed by the Joker next time around.
Well, this is actually the most coveted role in Hollywood, so if there's any way to break a typecast, this is it.
I actually didn't see his last movie, so my mind is still untainted.
Ping.
I agree about Jack N. He made the movie for me. I don't think I'll be able to relate another actor in the role. I would be watching the movie comparing them to Jack after his performance.
SZ
Well, the take on the character is going to be different. Nicholson stole the show, but the character shouldn't do that. It should be all about Batman, and everyone else is secondary. I think in this one, the Joker is going to be more hidden in the shadows then dominating every scene.
You are correct, it is titled "Batman Begins", not "Joker Begins".
Cheers,
SZ
Egh, Brokeback Joker.
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