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I would vote for my boss! How would you vote?

Posted on 05/11/2006 10:02:32 AM PDT by RICAN REPUBLICAN

This is the platform in which my boss from work said he would run on. And I would support him 100% since the Republican party has abandoned many Conservatives like me, I would like to entertain the possibility of how many of my fellow Freepers would possibly vote for someone with the following platform.

• Fair Tax

• Term Limits

• Eliminate Congressional retirement plan as it exists today

• Push a real energy policy that dictates solar, ethanol and geo-thermal technology. o Policy would be phased in during my term and not a 20 year plan as most politician’s plans

• Greatly reduce the amount of money paid into the UN. Use this money to expand the education system in the US.

• Push to have members of Congress paid by their states and not federal funds. o Members of Congress can only get pay raises if their constituents approve by 2/3 vote. o Eliminate Congressional credit union o Members of Congress would reside in home state majority of time and not Washington o Ensure members of Congress hold quarterly hometown meetings.

• Eliminate lobbyists since at its core it is collusion and racketeering which is illegal for citizens and Congress should not be immune. o Bring the insurance and pharmaceutical businesses in line o Eliminate many loop holes today that encourage law suits. Make stupid people accountable again.

• Investigate a standing military whereas everyone serves two years in the service of their choice following graduation from high school. o If you drop out of high school you will serve four years

• Driver’s license would be issued at 16. o The initial cost would be $2500. o Record would be reviewed when 18 and some monies may be refunded. o All licenses would cost $1000 for everyone.

• Drug dealers and child molesters would be put to death


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1 posted on 05/11/2006 10:02:35 AM PDT by RICAN REPUBLICAN
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....ok.


2 posted on 05/11/2006 10:03:09 AM PDT by Dog ( One of the original members of The Thread Hijackers™.)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

wow does this REALLY apply to every state?


3 posted on 05/11/2006 10:03:54 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Rob Schnieder is a Carrot)
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• Eliminate lobbyists since at its core it is collusion and racketeering which is illegal for citizens and Congress should not be immune. o Bring the insurance and pharmaceutical businesses in line o Eliminate many loop holes today that encourage law suits. Make stupid people accountable again.

He gets my vote on that one alone


4 posted on 05/11/2006 10:04:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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5 posted on 05/11/2006 10:05:05 AM PDT by E Rocc (Behavior that is rewarded is repeated)
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Push a real energy policy that dictates solar, ethanol and geo-thermal technology.

Also known as "buzzword pushing".

Do we really need government deciding these things?

6 posted on 05/11/2006 10:05:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

I'd add one more plank to the platform - hard time in Gitmo for people who engage in egregious abuse of FR sidebars.


7 posted on 05/11/2006 10:05:34 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: cripplecreek
Eliminate lobbyists

Lobbyists represent a whole lot of cross sections including prolifers and gun owners. Without lobbyists we have no voice. Bad idea.

8 posted on 05/11/2006 10:05:59 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

I would vote for NOT placing this in Breaking News.


9 posted on 05/11/2006 10:05:59 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Dog
Use this money to expand the education system in the US.

Yeah, because the only thing wrong with US education is lack of money.

Uh-huh.

10 posted on 05/11/2006 10:06:00 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Breaking vanity!


12 posted on 05/11/2006 10:06:53 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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• Driver’s license would be issued at 16. o The initial cost would be $2500. o Record would be reviewed when 18 and some monies may be refunded. o All licenses would cost $1000 for everyone.

OK that's just weird. Statist too.

13 posted on 05/11/2006 10:06:54 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: cripplecreek
Eliminate lobbyists since at its core it is collusion and racketeering

Well, you'd also have to cut that clause out of the First Amendment that allows people to petition the government.

The solution to lobbying abuses is not to eliminate lobbyists. It is to hold elected officials accountable, because the lobbyist has no power unless the official is willing to be corrupted.

14 posted on 05/11/2006 10:06:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

Borders????????

Illegal Immigrants?????????

Where does he stand on this???!!!


15 posted on 05/11/2006 10:06:59 AM PDT by the mo (Look into the eyes of the DRAGON and dispair!!! Merlin / Excalibur)
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Bring the insurance and pharmaceutical businesses in line

Yeah, just rein those suckers in.

Big, bad business, redux.

16 posted on 05/11/2006 10:07:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Investigate a standing military whereas everyone serves two years in the service of their choice following graduation from high school. o If you drop out of high school you will serve four years

• Driver’s license would be issued at 16. o The initial cost would be $2500. o Record would be reviewed when 18 and some monies may be refunded. o All licenses would cost $1000 for everyone.

Nope

17 posted on 05/11/2006 10:07:11 AM PDT by fml
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In honor of this thread, I am changing my tagline till after the election.
18 posted on 05/11/2006 10:07:35 AM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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Doesn't have my vote.


19 posted on 05/11/2006 10:07:40 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: ElkGroveDan

If we eliminate lobbyists, we the people become the lobbyists by way of letters, campaign contributions and votes.


20 posted on 05/11/2006 10:08:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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Ummmm, I think I'll vote for someone that has an opinion about the War on Terror. That's still important to me. I don't know about the disgruntled branch of the Conservative party though.


21 posted on 05/11/2006 10:08:06 AM PDT by rhombus
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Driver’s license would be issued at 16. o The initial cost would be $2500. o Record would be reviewed when 18 and some monies may be refunded. o All licenses would cost $1000 for everyone.

Is there a point to this? Or is it just a money-raising scheme?

22 posted on 05/11/2006 10:10:18 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Diverting our young women, to turn our military into majority female ? No.


23 posted on 05/11/2006 10:10:21 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN
would possibly vote for someone with the following platform?

No. Most of these would never see the light of day.

This is a common political ploy, make outlandish promises to voters and then blame the other members of congress for not passing your bills.

24 posted on 05/11/2006 10:10:36 AM PDT by opinionator
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Your boss needs help! Could some Freeper recommend a good psychiatrist?


25 posted on 05/11/2006 10:10:37 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

Lar ? Lar Daly ? is that you ?


26 posted on 05/11/2006 10:11:19 AM PDT by stylin19a (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: Izzy Dunne

***Push a real energy policy that dictates solar, ethanol and geo-thermal technology.***

<<<Also known as "buzzword pushing".

Do we really need government deciding these things?<<<

Izzy, you are SO right. Let the market decide. It would be cheaper and more effective.


27 posted on 05/11/2006 10:13:12 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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WELL IT'S SAD TO SEE THAT MOST OF MY FELLOW FREEPERS WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THINGS IN A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.

SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF YOU WORK IN WASHINGTON.

JUST LIKE THE REPUBILICANS IN OFFICE, AFAID OF CHANGE.

LORD GOD HELP US ALL.


28 posted on 05/11/2006 10:14:25 AM PDT by RICAN REPUBLICAN
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To: ElkGroveDan

NEITHER WOULD THE LEFTIST MORONS


29 posted on 05/11/2006 10:18:29 AM PDT by RICAN REPUBLICAN
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To: dirtboy

***The solution to lobbying abuses is not to eliminate lobbyists. It is to hold elected officials accountable, because the lobbyist has no power unless the official is willing to be corrupted.***

ABSOLUTELY!


30 posted on 05/11/2006 10:18:50 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

I MENT AFRAID!!!!


31 posted on 05/11/2006 10:19:55 AM PDT by RICAN REPUBLICAN
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To: Izzy Dunne

***Bring the insurance and pharmaceutical businesses in line***

<<<Yeah, just rein those suckers in.

Big, bad business, redux.<<<

You're on a roll today, Izzy. Keep going.


32 posted on 05/11/2006 10:20:15 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN
Members of Congress would reside in home state majority of time and not Washington

Hard to hold meetings that way.

33 posted on 05/11/2006 10:24:27 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Term Limits

Your bosses limit is 0 terms.

34 posted on 05/11/2006 10:26:18 AM PDT by opinionator
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Repubilicans,afaid,ment...yer skaring me.


35 posted on 05/11/2006 10:26:36 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN
If I was campaigning for President of the United States, my platform would be what I call Dark Side Conservatism:

  1. A "harsh" foreign policy. This implies the following - Chavez, Mugabe, Ahmadinejad - all would be targeted for assassination. Iran's nuclear facilities to be hit with a "dirty" bomb to make them too radioactive to use. Mexico would wake up and find a giant wall on the border manned by National Guard armed to the teeth.
  2. The death penalty to be extended to paedophiles and drug dealers. Flogging to be introduced for mugging and assault.
  3. Treason to be punished. If soldiers or agents are killed by a CIA leak, the leaker to be hanged.
  4. Government to be slashed in size. Good bye to the EPA, Department of Transport, Department of Energy, Department of Agriculture to start with. Medical benefits only for the very poor. Sod the latest prescription benefit. Social security to be privatised. Vouchers to replace public schools - sod them too, privatise the lot.
  5. Taxes to be slashed as well. Capital gains tax to be eliminated.
  6. Fair Tax bill to be passed.

That's just for starters.

Regards, Ivan

36 posted on 05/11/2006 10:27:03 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF YOU WORK IN WASHINGTON.

JUST LIKE THE REPUBILICANS IN OFFICE, AFAID OF CHANGE.

Insulting your audience is never a good idea.

I'm not afraid of change, but change has to have a point.

Dumping money into education is NOT a policy - it's a band-aid. Liberals like that throw-money-at-it approach, conservatives say that you have to look at what's working and what's not.

37 posted on 05/11/2006 10:27:49 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Investigate a standing military whereas everyone serves two years in the service of their choice following graduation from high school.

I don't think that the Coast Guard needs that many people.

38 posted on 05/11/2006 10:28:23 AM PDT by opinionator
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Term limits

I have to admit I am not a big term limit fan. I know its gospel that its the best thing in the World. However being from a rural State now and and from a rural area it just means less power and influence for residents of those districts. The power players will all be Urban and States with heavy populations. I will pass

Congressional retirement

Emotional issue and I have similar concerns as to above. Also related to the above Congressmen will be replaced by a more entrenched Civil service. Many Congressman , even those for term limits, will tell you in private that there biggest fear.

Energy plan-

I like that

Military conscription-

It appears some of the biggest opposition comes from the Pentegon. They are the biggest proponents of a maintaing a voluntary armed services.
39 posted on 05/11/2006 10:33:13 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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WELL IT'S SAD TO SEE THAT MOST OF MY FELLOW FREEPERS WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THINGS IN A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.

You judge "most of your fellow freepers" based on 25 posts?

Why do you interpret objections to your particular policies as a vote for the status quo?

P.S. you might want to take that piece of chewing gum out from under the CAPS LOCK key.

40 posted on 05/11/2006 10:33:26 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Howler Cookies


INGREDIENTS:

    * 3/4 cup butter, softened
    * 1 cup white sugar
    * 1 cup brown sugar
    * 1 egg
    * 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
    * 1 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
    * 1 1/4 cups quick cooking oats
    * 1/2 teaspoon baking soda
    * 1 teaspoon baking powder
    * 1/2 teaspoon salt
    * 1 cup chopped pecans
    * 3/4 cup flaked coconut

DIRECTIONS:

   1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease baking sheets.
   2. In a medium bowl, cream together the butter, white sugar and brown sugar.
Beat in the egg and vanilla.
Combine the flour, oats, baking soda, baking powder and salt; stir into the wet mixture until just blended.
Finally, fold in the pecans and coconut.
Dough may be a little dry.
Shape dough into walnut sized mounds and place 1 1/2 inches apart on the prepared cookie sheet.
   3. Bake for 12 to 14 minutes in the preheated oven, or until golden. Cool on baking sheets.

41 posted on 05/11/2006 10:44:40 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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NEITHER WOULD THE LEFTIST MORONS

You are wrong. The leftists make careers in government at all levels. They inhabit every level of the policy making apparatus. Sure they utilize lobbyists, but they don't need them as much as we do.

42 posted on 05/11/2006 10:56:35 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: martin_fierro

43 posted on 05/11/2006 11:10:20 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN

On the outside chance that you are really interested in discussion of the merits of your boss’s campaign platform, here is a discussion of the merits of each plank. 

 

Platform Plank (Position) Merit of Position
Fair Tax Depends on what “fair tax” means.  Some people think a confiscatory and redistributive income tax is fair.  If by “fair” you mean a flat tax, or a tax based on consumption, the idea is worthy of discussion.  A simplified tax code with lower tax rates, elimination of double taxes on dividends, etc. would be beneficial.
Term Limits This requires a constitutional amendment, and the GOP ran bringing this to a vote in the 1994 Contract with America.  They kept their promise and brought it to a vote where it would have passed had it only required a majority vote.  There was insufficient support to pass a constitutional amendment.
Eliminate Congressional retirement plan as it exists today Many people believe the hoax email that claims that the congressional retirement plan is this massive lucrative boondoggle.  While it is probably generous, it is nothing like the urban legend email. While reform is worthy of discussion, this is probably not an issue worthy of a campaign platform in a national election.
Push a real energy policy that dictates solar, ethanol and geo-thermal technology. o Policy would be phased in during my term and not a 20 year plan as most politician’s plans Any national energy policy that dictates the direction of research and development, rather than freeing up resources to be used for the most productive methods and technologies available, is a terrible idea.  Policy implementations of this nature take time, so the idea that you could mandate a major change and phase it in within 4 years is naïve at best.
Greatly reduce the amount of money paid into the UN. Use this money to expand the education system in the US. Reducing funding of the UN is a good idea, but expansion of federal funding of education systems is a bad idea.  Here’s a better idea.  Cut the federal education department budget in half, and then give the entire amount to the states in the form of block grants to use for education however the states see fit (proportioned according to the school age population of the respective states).  This would return control over education to the local governing bodies closer to the people. 

Push to have members of Congress paid by their states and not federal funds.

o       Members of Congress can only get pay raises if their constituents approve by 2/3 vote.

o       Eliminate Congressional credit union

o       Members of Congress would reside in home state majority of time and not Washington

o       Ensure members of Congress hold quarterly hometown meetings.

The state versus federal funding of congressional salaries would require a constitutional amendment, and is not really a good idea.  Congress is a federal – not state – position, and the federal government is responsible for paying for it. 

The congressional credit union does not need to be eliminated, but the members should have to manage their accounts just like every other citizen does. 

The idea of greater accountability to constituents is good, but mandates such as forcing reps to spend more time in their home states and less in Washington or mandating hometown meetings would not likely do much to achieve this objective.

o       Eliminate lobbyists since at its core it is collusion and racketeering which is illegal for citizens and Congress should not be immune.

o       Bring the insurance and pharmaceutical businesses in line

o       Eliminate many loop holes today that encourage law suits. Make stupid people accountable again.

Lobbying is a legitimate activity.  Any attempt to eliminate or vilify this activity is worthless and counterproductive.  Making congress subject to the same rules they impose on everyone else is a better idea.

More regulation of pharmaceuticals and insurance companies will only lead to higher costs and reduced access to treatment and medicines.

Tort reform isn’t about loopholes but rather about protecting people from frivolous lawsuits.  Tort reform is worthy of discussion and a legislative priority, but it should be proposed more intelligently than it is presented in your boss’s list.

Investigate a standing military whereas everyone serves two years in the service of their choice following graduation from high school.  If you drop out of high school you will serve four years Well this idea is a real stinker and a complete non-starter.  Our volunteer military has served us well for a long time and mandating 2 years of service for all would be contrary to the whole notion of freedom and liberty upon which this nation was founded.
Driver’s license would be issued at 16.  The initial cost would be $2500.  Record would be reviewed when 18 and some monies may be refunded.  All licenses would cost $1000 for everyone. Why would you want to make licensing of drivers a federal issue rather than a state issue?  This is a really stupid idea to make a platform in a campaign.  Also, making the cost so high would eliminate most low-income and middle income families from being able to get their teenage drivers legally licensed. 
Drug dealers and child molesters would be put to death
 
What about states that do not allow the death penalty?  How do you define drug dealers?  Is the kid who gets seduced by the easy money so he sells a few joints to his friends subject to the death penalty?  How do you define child molester?  If the 19 y/o has sex with the16 y/o whom he has been dating since he was 16 and she was 14 (he just turned 19 and she’ll be 17 next month, so they’re really only 2 years and 2 months apart), would he be in jeopardy of being tried of a federal capital crime?  Sorry, but even though I have no sympathy for either drug dealers or child molesters, this is a bad idea to use as a plank in a campaign platform.

 

44 posted on 05/11/2006 11:46:04 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: cripplecreek
If we eliminate lobbyists, we the people become the lobbyists by way of letters, campaign contributions and votes.

It sounds nice but it will never work that way. For starters, lobbyists do a whole lot more than walk in and say "vote for this" or "oppose that". As legislation is working it's way through the legislature who is going to work on details of regulatory language with legislative staff? Who is going to insist on minor but important technical fixes to bills as they move from one committee to the next?

The public policy process is far, far more complex than what you learned in your 7th grade Civics class. Cards and letters are nice, but a whole lot more goes on prior to actual votes on legislation.

45 posted on 05/11/2006 11:46:24 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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Investigate a standing military whereas everyone serves two years in the service of their choice following graduation from high school. o If you drop out of high school you will serve four years

That's what the military needs - people who don't want to serve.

If you drop out of high school you will serve four years

That's what the military needs - idiots.

The world need morons to pick up litter along the highways. More prisons would be nice, too.

Greatly reduce the amount of money paid into the UN. Use this money to expand the education system in the US

Although the UN has too much of our tax dollars, so the the education system. GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK!

No vote from me...

46 posted on 05/11/2006 12:28:47 PM PDT by Living Free in NH
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"Eliminate lobbyists..."

Uh, his first point would take care of that. Your boss (really you trying to appear like a conservative, but not knowing that true conservatives would actually think beyond stage one) hasn't really thought this thru.


47 posted on 05/11/2006 12:36:38 PM PDT by CSM (I went to the gas station this weekend and it was so popular that I had to wait for a pump. D-Chivas)
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To: RICAN REPUBLICAN
• Fair Tax

• Term Limits

• Eliminate Congressional retirement plan as it exists today.

• Push a real energy policy that dictates solar, ethanol and geo-thermal technology. o Policy would be phased in during my term and not a 20 year plan as most politician’s plans.


Good ideas so far.

• Greatly reduce the amount of money paid into the UN. Use this money to expand the education system in the US.

I like the idea about reducing the amount of money we turn over to the UN. In addition we should drastically reduce the amount of money that we spend on foreign aid. Furthermore, this money should not be turned over to the education system which already spends an astoundingly large amount of money to produce poor results. While you're at it, eliminate the department of education and turn control of the schools over to the states.

• Push to have members of Congress paid by their states and not federal funds. o Members of Congress can only get pay raises if their constituents approve by 2/3 vote. o Eliminate Congressional credit union o Members of Congress would reside in home state majority of time and not Washington o Ensure members of Congress hold quarterly hometown meetings.

A better idea: how about pegging congressional salaries to "average" salaries? So if the average American earns $32k a year, a congressman earns $32k a year.

• Eliminate lobbyists since at its core it is collusion and racketeering which is illegal for citizens and Congress should not be immune.

Great idea. Only individual citizens should be able to participate in the political process and donate money, and the amount should be capped at say $10,000. Corporations are not citizens and should not be able to influence the political process in America. One of the problems with corporate contributions is that it opens the American electoral process up to foreign influence.

Bring the insurance and pharmaceutical businesses in line o Eliminate many loop holes today that encourage law suits. Make stupid people accountable again.

I'm thinking that "making stupid people accountable again" doesn't fly as a policy position. As far as the insurance, pharma, and the lawsuit business some more specifics would help.

• Investigate a standing military whereas everyone serves two years in the service of their choice following graduation from high school. If you drop out of high school you will serve four years

Maybe. I'm not knowledgable enough about this issue to know what all the implications of such a move would be. • Driver’s license would be issued at 16. The initial cost would be $2500. Record would be reviewed when 18 and some monies may be refunded. All licenses would cost $1000 for everyone.

I'm not a big fan of policy that limits the ability of Americans to be upwardly mobile and so I don't think I'd support such a policy.

• Drug dealers and child molesters would be put to death.

You'll get no argument for me on that issue.
48 posted on 05/11/2006 12:47:37 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: darkwing104

IATZ ping.


49 posted on 05/11/2006 2:45:48 PM PDT by darkangel82
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