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1 posted on 12/28/2005 8:48:10 AM PST by presidio9
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....through movies such as "Brokeback Mountain," Hollywood is shedding light on the fact that not all gay men are fashion gurus, hairdressers, interior designers, and superior in the arts, but that some might — God forbid — be cowboys, herding sheep in Wyoming....

Podner.... down here where I live......
(And there are still a few real cowboys and big ranches)
People who "herd sheep" ain't called "cowboys"......
FYI
L

38 posted on 12/28/2005 9:01:24 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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In fact, the film quietly attracted record-breaking crowds in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. And so it seems that Ang Lee's film about two cowboys in love is — at minimum — surviving.

Which is it ? Record-breaking crowds or barely surviving ? The author says both. I bet the box office numbers, which are suspiciously absent, say barely surviving.

43 posted on 12/28/2005 9:03:22 AM PST by Red Boots
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Not all of us gay folk are comfortable with the flamboyance of gay-pride parades. And many would rather sip a Killian's in an Irish pub than dance to techno in a noisy gay bar.

This description fits my closest gay friend to a T. The ONLY indication I have that he's gay is that he told me. Otherwise, you would seriously never know it.

He even votes Republican! ;)
44 posted on 12/28/2005 9:04:04 AM PST by Xenalyte (Babies, before we're done here, y'all be wearin' gold-plated diapers.)
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45 posted on 12/28/2005 9:04:46 AM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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"I think it's something that's now just being more understood," seven-time world-champion cowboy Ty Murray, who is straight, recently told ABC's Good Morning America. "Hopefully, this movie helps people further understand it."

Wha Wha What! WTF is he talking about?

46 posted on 12/28/2005 9:04:50 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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And rather than coming out of the closet to make a declaration of individuality or identity, most of us "come out" so that we can share the gift of love openly with another individual.

What you're sharing isn't love. It's a perversion of that emotion, confused with sex. And "most of us" is an exaggeration. Most homos don't even pretend to love anyone. They just want permission to indulge the vilest vice known to man. The only "declaration" they make is against normalcy, convention, and restraint. If they focus their "identity" on what orifice their penis goes into, then they are truly pathetic.

... my hope is that "Brokeback Mountain" is seen not only as a monumental moment in cinema history but also as a daring and original attempt to prove that love is not bound by interpretation or stereotype.

First of all, Brokedick Mountain won't be seen as anything. The people who are going to see it already have. It's over. It won't survive the decade, let alone carve any niche in cinematic history. Because it is NOT "monumental," "daring", or "original." It is simply another Hollywood repudiation of conventionality, a wedge that can be driven into the bedrock of American values. There's nothing new there. And certainly nothing worth remembering.

49 posted on 12/28/2005 9:06:00 AM PST by IronJack
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51 posted on 12/28/2005 9:06:48 AM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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In fact, the film quietly attracted record-breaking crowds in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Record breaking... as in 'record low'? This is a clever way to spin that!~

54 posted on 12/28/2005 9:08:13 AM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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BackDoor Cowboys!

Macho Cowboys ride bulls not each other!

55 posted on 12/28/2005 9:08:34 AM PST by TexasCajun
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What do you make of that? 'record breaking crowds' ? huh???


56 posted on 12/28/2005 9:08:34 AM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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"Or it might have to do with Hollywood hunks Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal and their huge female fan bases."

Correct me if I'm wrong, ladies, but wouldn't seeing your two "hunks" involved in a gay way be the opposite of sexy?


62 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:25 AM PST by Pessimist
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I find that the beauty of this film lies in its navigating away from stereotypes to convey the power and randomness of love.

Oh puh_leeez. It so sterotypes conservatives. It shows a Mathew Shephard type lynching, as if this happens all the time. It casts religion and normal families in the worst possible light. It contains all the stereotypes that liberals hold. The movie just tries to break true 'stereotypes' about the evils of the gay lifestyle.

63 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:29 AM PST by Always Right
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People of the gay lifestyle claim they make up about 5% of the population. I believe that estimate is way too high. I don't see how a gay movie can possibly make money when it's theme doesn't interest over 95 % of our nations people and even offends the majority of them.
64 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:51 AM PST by jazusamo
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I don't understand all the fuss over this gay cowboy movie, the world survived the 1969 "Midnight Cowboy" gay cowboy movie.


67 posted on 12/28/2005 9:13:00 AM PST by AmusedBystander
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Would these programs help in showing the normality of being gay? Or would many viewers come away thinking that we were indeed "different"?

How could one not come away from watching a program such as Queer Eye thinking gay men were different from straight men? Isn't that the whole point of Queer Eye? Most straight men don't go mincing about, incessantly worrying about moisturizer and "product."

If anything, shows like Queer Eye remind us that gay men are very different straight men. And that's cool: they're free to do their own thing, and we're free to do ours.

68 posted on 12/28/2005 9:13:08 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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The author's from Rutland.


70 posted on 12/28/2005 9:13:42 AM PST by printhead
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maybe this will clear things up.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,179599,00.html

71 posted on 12/28/2005 9:13:50 AM PST by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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Gay cowboys* are breaking stereotypes?? Since when?

(*Yeah, sheepherders, I know.)

73 posted on 12/28/2005 9:14:53 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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the film brought in the highest per-screen average for any film release in 2005.

Per screen. Duh.
That's easy, open a new fag movie in just three screens in Sodomite centers and watch it sell out.

Just look at how the "homo-effect" killed "Alexander the Great" once word got out about its homo-eroticism.

This thing is going to die once it moves out of Sodom, Gomorrah and Gotham.

75 posted on 12/28/2005 9:15:18 AM PST by Bon mots
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Or it might have to do with Hollywood hunks Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal and their huge female fan bases.

Since the author is an admitted queer, he won't understand this, but, women, when they find out the "hunk" is gay, it is a major turn off, and will cause them to stay away from any new movies that said "hunk" makes.

Here is the reason this happens. Women are wanting to see these hunks because they have fantasies of this dashing handsome hunk being totally infatuated with only them, and coming to sweep them into their ams and carry them away from the rat race. But, the moment they realize this "hunk" will instead walk right by them and pursue the woman's mate.

A man could recognize this in the same way they go up to a hot woman in a bar, only to be shot down when the woman says she's gay. (On a side note, I never understood why Hellywood tries to show that every man's fantasy is to see two women making out.)

Besides all that, as has been stated, these are two guys that shovel sheep dip for a living, not cowhands. Of course sheep herders are great people. I seriously think it isn't that these two are attracted to each other. It is just this year's herd of sheep is a lot uglier than last year's.

98 posted on 12/28/2005 9:23:35 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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