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Posted on 10/08/2005 9:52:18 AM PDT by Allen H
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Janice Rogers Brown was my first choice but I trust President Bush. All the moaning and bitching and claims that "these so called conservatives will never vote Republican again" ... so don't. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Talk about being "stuck on stupid".
I am tired of Freepers that can't wait to throw GWB over the wall at the first sign of any conflict. We want the senators to show some guts, but when the first volley is fired, the weak kneed Freepers run for cover.
Go ahead, flame away.
The Miers pick is the fulfillment of a promise made to the CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE portion of W's base.
The fallout, therefrom, cleves along spiritual, not intellectual lines.
Bush has not earned the right to say, "trust me."
1) He didn't keep his word on embryonic stem cells and created a market in embryos, which is what the culture of death wants.
2) Bush signed McCain/Feingold. His conservative princpled stand rested on hoping the Supreme Court would do what he was afraid to do - kill it.
3) Bush has yet to oppose a dime in socialism.
4) Bush is proud of recruiting Kennedy to write his education bill.
5) Bush created a whole new entitlement - prescription drugs. It wasn't something he was pressured into, either. It's passed and signed but no one wants it.
Some argue that it is the president's choice to pick whomever he will nominate. Not true. He is there to represent the people who put him there and to uphold the constitution. Republicans never should've voted for Ginsberg based on her unconstitutional views, rather than voting for her in spite of her wacky leftist views.
Bush has created a disturbing precedent in choosing Roberts and Miers. He has sent the unmistakable message that known conservatives need not apply. Some will say, "...but look at his appellate appointments." Sure, he made excellent appellate appointments, but he left them to twist in the wind in his first term. I'm sure the stealthy nature of his SC nominations are not lost on his appellate appointments, either.
He's also damaged Christian conservatives with his behind the scenes re-assurances that, "...she's gonna vote the right way." In a way, confirming liberals fears that conservatives want a Christian activist judge. Thankfully, aside from Dobson selling out, Christian conservatives have not endorsed Miers.
Conservatives need to press Miers during the confirmation hearings instead of giving her a pass. She may or may not do well, but Bush, the Nixon Republican, has slighted conservatives for the last time.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
We have the Senate and can run over the filibuster. Why play it safe?
Good point. If Kerry was president ((shudder and puke)) there would be NO DOUBT as to the politics of the person he would pick. Flaming pink as you please hard core left of Socialist left liberal. And I don't know anymore if the gutless Republican majority in the Senate would even have the wevos to oppose it. I certainly trust Bush more than the Senate Republicans. Only about 25 of them seem to consistently have the brass to be conservative all the time no matter the issue because it's a way of life they believe in, not a way of convenience like for mccain and ones like him. There has been ample evidence put foward that Miers will be a conservative Justice just like she's been a politically and ideologically conservative lawyer, person in society, Christian in church, volunteer to conservative causes, etc so on, for so many years. Barring the ability to see the future, all that is good enough for me. Of course I'm scared ****less about having another burn job like suiter and kennedy and o'conner. But I have faith that Bush knows this woman and truly wants a conservative court before he leaves office, and that is the VERY reason that he hass nominated Miers. And frankly, like I said before, I quite like the fact she didn't come from some elitist liberal school like yale or harvard, and given how so many judges are so full of themselves, I like the fact she hasn't been some holier than though on high Judge looking down her nose at the real world from afar. I am encouraged that she's actually been in the real world, seeing how things SHOULD BE, and knows what the Constitution says, and isn't likely to be a stevens or ginsburg who rules based on what they wish it said, or what some socialist in spain or france has ruled.
I prefer the Army acronym: MOOSEMUSS! I begin to wonder if there are bitter little McCains running about on this forum.
This appointment is the 3rd stupidest thing Bush has done. #1 is letting the deficit spiral out of control, and #2 is letting illegal immigration spiral out of control. I held my nose on the first two stupid things, not realizing that Bush was going to do a 3rd stupid thing.
Pox on Bush.
No flames from this quarter! Only applause!
Specter, Collins, Chafey, Snowe, Hagel....
You should be socked fifty bucks for posting a whiny vanity.
it actually seems to be that those who oppose the Miers nomination are *a part of* W's Conservative Christian base. It could be a spiritually-based fallout, but I would disagree that those who are unhappy with Miers are not religious conservatives. I am disappointed with Miers because I am 1) Christian and 2) Conservative. I'm sure Bush knows much more than we do, but Miers doesn't seem to be the Thomas or Scalia Constructionist he promised us. Christian Conservatives worked hard to get GWB elected in order to change the configuration of the Court, and I'm not sure this is happening.
That post that JohnHuang2 made was BRILLIANT! Excellent thread. I don't think I'm even tempered enough to be a columnist. 8) I only rarely ever go out of my way to remain polite to people who have really irritated me. Where is an example that you think this post I wrote would be good in? Thanks for the advice. 8)
LOL! Me thinks you can stop wondering!
He's worked with closely Miers for 11 years. They're both Born Again Christians. She has no paper trail. Bingo, we get one of our own on the Supreme Court! What more do you want?
With a turncoat like McCain and his gang of 14 running roughshod over the President, it's a pretty limp majority.
"Frum is the only one Ive heard of who has worked with her and doesnt support her, and that was years ago and its not as though Frum doesnt have his own agenda."
Frum is a Canadian. Any questions?
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