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Man Accused Of Tossing Son's Puppy Off 5th Floor Balcony
WFTV ^ | 8/2/05 | WFTV

Posted on 08/02/2005 9:03:04 AM PDT by paltz

MIRAMAR, Fla. -- A man was arrested on charges of killing his son's 2-month-old black Labrador puppy by throwing it five stories to the ground after it urinated and defecated inside their apartment.

Josper Sanon, 49, took the dog and flung it 25 feet through the air off their fifth-floor balcony, the arrest warrant said.

A police officer found Sanon's 16-year-old son Steve screaming and crying in the parking lot of their apartment.

Josper Sanon was arrested on charges of cruel death, pain and suffering of an animal, a third-degree felony. He was being held on $2,500 bail.

He faces up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine if convicted.

Miramar police spokesman Bill Robertson said the fact that the dog was found 25 feet from the balcony shows the animal was thrown and did not accidentally fall.

Sanon's two children were placed in the temporary custody of a family member. Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: adogisnotacat; atleastitwasntacat; crueltytoanimals; dog; puppy
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1 posted on 08/02/2005 9:03:07 AM PDT by paltz
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The best news stories always come out of Florida.
2 posted on 08/02/2005 9:04:33 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: paltz

If a 16 year old boy was crying he had other issues to deal with than the death of a puppy.


3 posted on 08/02/2005 9:04:43 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad

Not if the dad did it in front of him.


4 posted on 08/02/2005 9:06:37 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: paltz

How mean of the dad!


5 posted on 08/02/2005 9:07:00 AM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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To: paltz

Throw dad off 5th floor balcony.


6 posted on 08/02/2005 9:08:26 AM PDT by Millee (Earth First! We'll log the other planets later!)
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To: One Proud Dad

How about we take this guy and you, and toss both off a 5th floor balcony. Let's see if your kids start crying.


7 posted on 08/02/2005 9:10:17 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: agitator

You can try :) better than you have tried, you might be the one crying.

My point is we have had pets die not just dogs but horses and such and once my boys were over about 13-14 they didn't bat an eye.


8 posted on 08/02/2005 9:13:16 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
If a 16 year old boy was crying he had other issues to deal with than the death of a puppy.

Are you saying 16 year old boys shouldn't cry?

9 posted on 08/02/2005 9:14:04 AM PDT by Cagey (Scrapple is not for vegetarians, those who keep kosher, or those with weak stomachs)
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To: One Proud Dad

WTF? The kid just saw his father toss a dog off a balcony. I think the kid earned the right to cry, (and to start planning Daddy's "accident")


10 posted on 08/02/2005 9:16:18 AM PDT by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: One Proud Dad

There's a difference in a pet dying from illness or an accident than when your father throws a temper tantrum and intentionally kills your pet.


11 posted on 08/02/2005 9:16:47 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: agitator

I have taught mine not to instill human qualities to animals that come and go seemingly more frequent than family and friends.

The cruelty of the father should be addressed but the humanizing of animals has to be turned down a bit.


12 posted on 08/02/2005 9:17:34 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
My point is we have had pets die not just dogs but horses and such and once my boys were over about 13-14 they didn't bat an eye.

Nothing like a kid that doesn't show his emotion over the loss of a pet. I can see why you are a Proud Dad.

13 posted on 08/02/2005 9:19:38 AM PDT by Cagey (Scrapple is not for vegetarians, those who keep kosher, or those with weak stomachs)
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To: One Proud Dad
If a 16 year old boy was crying he had other issues to deal with than the death of a puppy.

Did you read the story? Sounds like you are the one with issues.

14 posted on 08/02/2005 9:22:39 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: paltz

My wife & her liberal 'dog friends' don't believe in capital punishment -- but in this guy's case, they'd gladly make an exception. An interesting window into the way the liberal mind works...


15 posted on 08/02/2005 9:22:56 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Cagey
Nothing like a kid that doesn't show his emotion over the loss of a pet. I can see why you are a Proud Dad.

Yup. Really would make me proud. NOT.

16 posted on 08/02/2005 9:24:22 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Cagey

Not over this. Maybe there is more to the story, maybe junior was told not to bring it home, they live in an apartment that may or may not have restrictions. Maybe dog was unsing an expensive piece of furniture for a repository.

There are bigger things in this world to cry over, this isn't one of them. Now that dad is arrested and looking at jail time ( probably lost job ) and the pulse of America is on the be kind to animals thing dad may be gone for a few years and we ( tax payers )get to raise the kids and they will probably be mental patients in the future for the family being broken up. Kids now don't have a dad. Cry over that.

...and yes I am aware the parallel of animal cruelty a serial murders etc...


17 posted on 08/02/2005 9:24:32 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Cagey; exile
police officer found Sanon's 16-year-old son Steve screaming and crying in the parking lot of their apartment.

There's a difference between crying for a lost pet and the "screaming and crying" that was reported..

It made me take a second look regarding this kids maturity. It's not like the animal was a "lifelong pet"..

18 posted on 08/02/2005 9:26:57 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
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To: paltz

There is no excuses for this find of behavior, only a sick F**k would pull something like this.


19 posted on 08/02/2005 9:27:46 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (I thought about that and DELIBERATELY didn't go there. (Or maybe you did?))
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Well I am Proud and mine are proud of me, they are prepared for a world that will treat them like crap and is not fair and while it is not bad to show emotion it is bad to let things you cannot control rule the day. Son had no control over dad. Like I said it was a dog, not grandma or sister.

They were taught compasion, but not weakness.


20 posted on 08/02/2005 9:29:21 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: Experiment 6-2-6; Cagey; exile
There's a difference between crying for a lost pet and the "screaming and crying" that was reported..

It made me take a second look regarding this kids maturity. It's not like the animal was a "lifelong pet"..

Un-frickin believable.

21 posted on 08/02/2005 9:29:44 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: paltz

What's the glide ratio for a labrador retriever? Must be pretty good from what I've seen of the "Dock Diving" competitions on ESPN & OLN. Some of those Labs can get out there beyond 20 feet. With a little extra vertical drop...

Sorry, this is just a sick mind at work.


22 posted on 08/02/2005 9:30:31 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: biblewonk
Looks like somebody stepped in it, bigtime.

I'll be right back with some popcorn. This could get interesting. ;O)

23 posted on 08/02/2005 9:30:57 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: One Proud Dad

Given the same circumstances, would you have done the same thing? Throw the dog off of a 5th floor balcony?


24 posted on 08/02/2005 9:31:09 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: One Proud Dad

I'd cry.


25 posted on 08/02/2005 9:31:42 AM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

No. I was not commenting on the actions of the dad, but the actions of the 16 year old boy. What the dad did was wrong, more than wrong, but he did it.


26 posted on 08/02/2005 9:32:35 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
Well I am Proud and mine are proud of me, they are prepared for a world that will treat them like crap and is not fair and while it is not bad to show emotion it is bad to let things you cannot control rule the day. Son had no control over dad. Like I said it was a dog, not grandma or sister.

Yeah, I'm sure in this instance the 16 year old learned a valuable life lesson.

27 posted on 08/02/2005 9:33:47 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: One Proud Dad

I don't see anyone here humanizing the puppy.

I DO however see folks calling the Dad what he is...
A heartless monster of a brute and the son had every right to cry, dangit!


28 posted on 08/02/2005 9:34:08 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: newgeezer

Correction, fell in it...


29 posted on 08/02/2005 9:34:11 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
They were taught compasion, but not weakness.

I think that's a good lesson to teach. However, if someone should cry at the loss of a loved pet, I'd hardly find that a sign of weakness. But then, that's just me.

30 posted on 08/02/2005 9:34:21 AM PDT by Cagey (Scrapple is not for vegetarians, those who keep kosher, or those with weak stomachs)
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To: One Proud Dad
No. I was not commenting on the actions of the dad, but the actions of the 16 year old boy. What the dad did was wrong, more than wrong, but he did it.

So instead of crying, would it have been better for the son to have tossed his dad off of the balcony?

31 posted on 08/02/2005 9:35:20 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Cagey

Don't know about you, but I see compassion as a sign of strength. If someone can't feel sorrow at a loss (like that of a pet) then that is someone who is missing a chunk of what makes them human.


32 posted on 08/02/2005 9:35:58 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I bet he did.

Maybe like: dad is an ass, don't trust everyone blindly, do what dad said and don't bring home a pet basically mind your parents, dogs don't fly, things in life come and go, the 2 certains of life death and taxes, etc...


33 posted on 08/02/2005 9:36:47 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Well, you know, when you have reached the ripe old age of 16, you aren't allowed to get upset and have a fit after watching your dad throw your 2-month old puppy to its death.


34 posted on 08/02/2005 9:36:55 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: najida
You said it much better than I.
35 posted on 08/02/2005 9:37:01 AM PDT by Cagey (Scrapple is not for vegetarians, those who keep kosher, or those with weak stomachs)
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To: najida
Don't know about you, but I see compassion as a sign of strength. If someone can't feel sorrow at a loss (like that of a pet) then that is someone who is missing a chunk of what makes them human.

Exactly, in fact the 16 year old in this case has more compassion and strength than his dad, or oneproud dad will ever have.

36 posted on 08/02/2005 9:38:02 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: One Proud Dad

Are you putting the blame for the consequences of this father's actions on society? It is his action of throwing a puppy out of a 5th floor window that caused all the potential consequences in this case, not society.

I was raised in the country, and in the country it is acceptable to treat animals in ways not accepted by city folks. Now that I am a resident of the city, I know it would just be stupid to treat animals the same way as was accepted in the country life.

Dad was stupid and his family will pay for his stupidity.


37 posted on 08/02/2005 9:38:18 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: One Proud Dad

Not only did you jump in it, but now you've flipped on your back and started rolling around and around.

I'm going to get some butter for the popcorn and a 2 liter Pepsi ;)


38 posted on 08/02/2005 9:38:57 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: One Proud Dad
>Maybe like: dad is an ass, don't trust everyone blindly, do what dad said and don't bring home a pet basically mind your parents, dogs don't fly, things in life come and go, the 2 certains of life death and taxes, etc...

Wow! What can one say. I defer to you sir.......

39 posted on 08/02/2005 9:39:57 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

No, but sad to say that is where junior is probably heading.

He should have shown remorse and moved on. The great response time of some PD's and son was still screaming and crying in the parking lot after they arrived. I've seen human losses not mourned that long.


40 posted on 08/02/2005 9:39:59 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: CSM

Yes they will and so will we.


41 posted on 08/02/2005 9:41:29 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad; All

You are a cynical phoney.

Your kids aren't proud of you...they're afraid of you.


42 posted on 08/02/2005 9:41:48 AM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: One Proud Dad
I've seen human losses not mourned that long.

Well, as I have said, you have left me speechless.....

43 posted on 08/02/2005 9:42:06 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: baltodog

Wow! Bingo! Wanna share some popcorn and pepsi with me?


44 posted on 08/02/2005 9:42:51 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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I leave the battle to you guys, I have nothing more left in me...........


45 posted on 08/02/2005 9:43:16 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: One Proud Dad

What alternative are you proposing? Should the father that committed a crime, not be punished for the good of society? Should the good of society trump other aspects of our lives?


46 posted on 08/02/2005 9:43:40 AM PDT by CSM ( If the government has taken your money, it has fulfilled its Social Security promises. (dufekin))
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Compassion one thing blubbering for an extended period of time over a dog is another. So if this kid witnesses a murder ( which he did not in this case by definition ) instead of maintaining his bearing and maybe assisting or witnessing to the police he should just start crying and keep on doing so for several hours. I hope he doesn't start watch the news and seeing all the death and mayhem that happens around the world he will be incapacitated for life.

For those that want to pass a judgement on my compassion go ahead but you know not of what you speak, I am not arguing that dad did a good thing or even a bad thing, it was reprehesible, but I am commenting on a 16 year old boys extended mourning of the death of the puppy.


47 posted on 08/02/2005 9:48:37 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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son was still screaming and crying in the parking lot after they arrived.

The father had to be in a furious rage, in order to fling the puppy into the air like that. I'm sure the boy was petrified of his father and I wouldn't blame him for "screaming and crying" in the face of anger like that, even if the dad hadn't killed the puppy.

48 posted on 08/02/2005 9:48:39 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: One Proud Dad

OK,
question....
What if it was a 16 year old girl who was still crying?

Is it the action (tears) or the gender of the actee (boy) that bothers you so much?


49 posted on 08/02/2005 9:51:35 AM PDT by najida (Now living with cutting edge 1950's technology.)
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To: baltodog

You do not know my kids so keep your opinion of them to yourself.

Wow a phoney for not being overly concerned about the death of a dog.

Hey I ran over a squirrel by accident last month should I have stopped and gave it a funeral.


50 posted on 08/02/2005 9:51:53 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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