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Bottom falls out of thong market
London Tims ^ | 7/31/05 | John Elliott and Sarah Keenlyside

Posted on 07/31/2005 11:35:02 AM PDT by wagglebee

THONG sales have collapsed by nearly 20% in the past year, signalling a backlash against a symbol of “chav” culture.

The underwear was appropriated by mainstream fashion from its strip club origins. It made its way into women’s wardrobes after being flaunted by celebrities such as Victoria Beckham and Sophie Anderton.

Now, however, retail industry data indicate that sales nationally have fallen by 17% in one year. At some retailers the fall is even sharper: Harvey Nichols, the department store chain, sold 43% fewer thongs in April to June this year compared with 2004.

Fashion experts believe the thong is being rejected because women are looking for more comfortable and less revealing alternatives, such as cut-off “boy shorts”. It is part of a move away from overtly sexual clothing such as push-up bras, crop tops and low-cut jeans.

Doubts are even afflicting the most ardent champions of the thong, which consists of a small triangle of material at the front and a narrow strip reaching round to the waistband at the back, revealing the buttocks. Jodie Marsh, the model and reality TV star who has often been branded as a chav herself, agreed that despite her collection of more than 500 thongs, fashions were changing. “Showing your thong is a bit old now,” she said. “I’d rather have big knickers showing over the top of my jeans.”

Marsh, 26, is a member of one of the few age groups among whom sales of thongs have not fallen, according to the figures from TNS Fashion Trak, a market research company. For 25 to 34-year-olds sales are holding up, but for younger women other fashions have taken over. Similarly, older buyers have decided that the revealing lingerie may not be the most flattering.

Trinny Woodall, co- presenter of BBC1’s What Not To Wear, described women who wore thongs outside their trousers as “disgusting”. She said: “Older women have shied away from them because they have found alternatives. Maybe their bums are sagging a bit and they don’t want to see it when they take off their clothes.”

The thong used to be associated with dancing girls, Brazilian “beach babes” and questionable romantic gifts. In 1997, however, it won fashion respectability when a Gucci model wore one on the catwalk.

Soon afterwards Melanie Blatt, a singer with All Saints, was photographed flashing her thong as she got out of a taxi and Beckham disclosed that her husband enjoyed wearing her G-strings from time to time.

The underwear quickly caught on. The trend for showing them above the waistband was so popular that head teachers had to ban them. Even in France, traditionally seen as more liberal than Britain, the fashion for le string among young girls led to the banning of some G-string adverts.

At the height of the craze, towards the end of 2003, thongs accounted for 31% of the women’s underwear market. That figure has fallen to 23%.

Now, however, the thong’s association with “tabloid” celebrities has tarnished its image. In addition they are seen by growing numbers of women as unsexy and uncomfortable.

Peter York, the social commentator, said: “The string rose in tune with showing your belly. It was very much a thing of the past 10 years where women would wear low-cut jeans, crop tops and a visible thong. However brave men were about it, I think they were deeply shocked. It’s one thing to see Brazilian lovelies on beaches, but when full-bodied Tracy next door has a visible thong it’s really a bit too much information.”

Angela Buttolph, presenter of BBC TV’s forthcoming A Week of Dressing Dangerously, added: “You do associate them with Britney past her prime, Jordan and Paris Hilton, none of whom is particularly classy.”

The change in fashion was marked earlier this year by Elle Macpherson, 41, the Australian model, who launched her “afterwear”. She said: “G-strings are uncomfortable. Girls want real knickers now.”

Figures from Gossard, the underwear manufacturer, show that sales of tight “boy shorts” that cover the buttocks have risen by 172% in the past five years.

Sophie Anderton, the model at the forefront of Gossard’s G- string campaign in the 1990s, said she remained a devotee of the thong and kept her more comfortable knickers hidden at the back of her cupboard.

“The only time I would wear them is if my boyfriend wasn’t around,” she said.


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KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; fashion; sex; thongs; underwear
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However brave men were about it, I think they were deeply shocked. It’s one thing to see Brazilian lovelies on beaches, but when full-bodied Tracy next door has a visible thong it’s really a bit too much information.

Yep!

1 posted on 07/31/2005 11:35:02 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: pissant

Ping!


2 posted on 07/31/2005 11:35:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Just have to say, that's a funny headline.


3 posted on 07/31/2005 11:37:08 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: wagglebee

This thread could get interesting!

4 posted on 07/31/2005 11:38:04 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: big'ol_freeper

LOL


5 posted on 07/31/2005 11:38:42 AM PDT by cyborg (to love,honor and obey...)
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To: wagglebee

Five years ago I saw a Japanese male tourist wear a thong to the hotel pool, in a Pittsburgh PA hotel. Never saw another thong in this area before or since.


6 posted on 07/31/2005 11:40:34 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: wagglebee

The cutoff 'boyshorts' are sexier anyways.


7 posted on 07/31/2005 11:41:17 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: wagglebee

The imagery invoked by the title.

Priceless. :)


8 posted on 07/31/2005 11:41:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: Ciexyz
Five years ago I saw a Japanese male tourist wear a thong to the hotel pool, in a Pittsburgh PA hotel. Never saw another thong in this area before or since.

Yeah well, that's Japanese tourists for you. I saw one Japanese guy in a motel wearing a speedo, unfortunately he failed to completely encase his manhood within leaving half of it exposed. It was quite amusing.

9 posted on 07/31/2005 11:46:32 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Darksheare; Corin Stormhands

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10 posted on 07/31/2005 11:48:44 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Dining room, we don't need no stinkin dining room! Classroom space, on the other hand, is valuable.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Definitely NOT my fault!
LOL!


11 posted on 07/31/2005 11:53:44 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Just because I have a paper heart, doesn't mean tearing it is okay." -The man with the candy face)
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To: wagglebee

My wife is a big fan of the shorts/minis types of knickers (which is good, cause they are far, FAR sexier, especially on my sweetheart, RAWR, *cough* but I digress), but likes to keep a couple thongs around so that things stay cool on extra hot days wearing heavy black dress pants at work. Bloody chavs ruined the appeal of the things though, by strapping them on their flabby blonde clone-sluts. All look alike, the skanks. Same low jeans, same thong sticking out, same horrible looking flab hanging over the waistband, same blonde hair pulled up to the top of their heads to stretch their faces, same hoop earrings, I could go on forever. Now they just have a slut reputation instead of the more practical application..


12 posted on 07/31/2005 11:55:58 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: wagglebee
Listen, I don't even read the articles, I'm sure it's quite good.

Please, from now on, post 8-10 pics of hot babes in thongs, when starting a thread about the wearing of said item.

Thanks a bunch!
13 posted on 07/31/2005 12:00:27 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: WhiteGuy

LOL!


14 posted on 07/31/2005 12:07:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
“The only time I would wear them is if my boyfriend wasn’t around,” she said.

That has to leave a mark.
15 posted on 07/31/2005 12:09:25 PM PDT by quantim (I'm at the point now where I refer to all liberals as "insurgents.")
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To: wagglebee
" celebrities(?) such as Victoria Beckham and Sophie Anderton"...

I am soooo not with it!

16 posted on 07/31/2005 12:09:33 PM PDT by Baynative (The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.)
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To: spetznaz
A woman has to have a PEFECT body to wear boyshorts. I mean an absolutely flawless body. Like her.


17 posted on 07/31/2005 12:12:17 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: wagglebee
Doubts are even afflicting the most ardent champions of the thong, which consists of a small triangle of material at the front and a narrow strip reaching round to the waistband at the back, revealing the buttocks.

Who started this stupid trend anyway. I bet it's somehow Britney Spears related.

18 posted on 07/31/2005 12:13:58 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: wagglebee

>>>BOTTOM FALLS OUT OF THE THONG MARKET>>>>


What a great headline LOL! But as always, let us get a closet full of something and then it goes out of style......... Not my closet you understand. Grandmoms in thongs is not something anyone should even think about.


19 posted on 07/31/2005 12:16:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: WhiteGuy

"Please, from now on, post 8-10 pics of hot babes in thongs, when starting a thread about the wearing of said item."

Agreed. Oh, and please make sure at least a couple of the pictures are in braile.


20 posted on 07/31/2005 12:17:21 PM PDT by Bones75
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To: Ciexyz

21 posted on 07/31/2005 12:19:02 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Bones75

22 posted on 07/31/2005 12:19:28 PM PDT by Baynative (The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.)
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To: ozarkgirl

A Japanese tourist in a badly-fitting speedo? Yikes, I bet you guys are still joking about it...as we are about someone's buns hanging out of a thong.


23 posted on 07/31/2005 12:20:43 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: martin_fierro

Aaaaarrrgggh!


24 posted on 07/31/2005 12:22:15 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: martin_fierro

couldn't resist, could you?


25 posted on 07/31/2005 12:23:15 PM PDT by Baynative (The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits.)
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To: wagglebee
Similarly, older buyers have decided that the revealing lingerie may not be the most flattering.

Those mature women can be real brainiacs when they try, you know!

26 posted on 07/31/2005 12:26:11 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: martin_fierro

How can that NOT hurt???

27 posted on 07/31/2005 12:28:06 PM PDT by SerpentDove (Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Try not to screw it up again.)
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To: wagglebee

"chav" culture?

Well, I had to Google that...(yes, I'm getting old) And here's what one person said..............

"Just in case you don't know what a Chav is, according to Campaign magazine, they are "young, white, under-educated, underclass obsessed with brands and unsubtle jewellery"

How did they come up with the name "chav" from that definition?


28 posted on 07/31/2005 12:44:11 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: wagglebee
"Angela Buttolph, presenter of BBC TV’s forthcoming A Week of Dressing Dangerously, added..."

Angela Buttolph. In an article discussing thongs. You've got to be kidding me.

29 posted on 07/31/2005 12:47:49 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Gunrunner2

Hey buddy, your Christmas card picture made it onto FR.


30 posted on 07/31/2005 12:48:58 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: MotleyGirl70

I know. LOL. And I am a very happy man by the way. Quite happy.


31 posted on 07/31/2005 12:52:03 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Baynative

That is just wrong on so many levels. Ewwww.


32 posted on 07/31/2005 12:56:20 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Darksheare
Definitely NOT my fault!

Of course not. It's Bush's fault. sarc/

33 posted on 07/31/2005 12:59:30 PM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!avigable waters)
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To: inneroutlaw

Devil's panties alert!


34 posted on 07/31/2005 1:02:59 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: rock58seg

Sad that I have to deny such things.
But if I don't, I will be asked what I did to accomplish this..


35 posted on 07/31/2005 1:13:18 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Just because I have a paper heart, doesn't mean tearing it is okay." -The man with the candy face)
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To: spetznaz

Hey, checked out your home page, love it!


36 posted on 07/31/2005 1:15:39 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: MotleyGirl70

Your #17

Those aren't boy shorts, they're speedo's with 1" extra on the bottom.


37 posted on 07/31/2005 1:19:19 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: MotleyGirl70
Who started this stupid trend anyway. I bet it's somehow Britney Spears related.

Thongs pre-date Britney. Models used to wear them so there would be no panty line under their very form fitting dresses

The idea was not that they would be seen but that they wouldn't.

38 posted on 07/31/2005 1:20:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Warning: May bite (Adjusts tin foil hat with stylish copper lining))
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To: WhiteGuy
Image hosted by Photobucket.com

Like this? I’ll bet other rhinos think she’s a hot babe.

39 posted on 07/31/2005 1:20:13 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

There are limits, even for me...............

there are limits


40 posted on 07/31/2005 1:28:18 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Thongs pre-date Britney.

I know thongs pre-date Britney. I was referring to in my post is having thongs revealed outside of jeans, skirts, etc.

Models used to wear them so there would be no panty line under their very form fitting dresses The idea was not that they would be seen but that they wouldn't.

Yes I know this also. I'm a woman and know all about panty lines and reasons for wearing thongs.

41 posted on 07/31/2005 1:31:27 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Ciexyz

4 years ago while studying abroad I spent a week in Paris. My first night in the hostel, one of my roommates was a 40ish, balding, overweight, pasty-white Frenchman who wore nothing but a silky black thong.


42 posted on 07/31/2005 1:36:05 PM PDT by sassbox
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To: ozarkgirl

Thanks.


43 posted on 07/31/2005 1:59:06 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: WhiteGuy

I just couldn't help it.


44 posted on 07/31/2005 2:45:13 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

I just couldn't help it.

I understand, I saved the pic for just such an opportunity!


45 posted on 07/31/2005 2:58:08 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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To: WhiteGuy

You never know when it might come in handy.


46 posted on 07/31/2005 3:19:31 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

I don't find them all that sexy as "normal" underwear.

But, why in the world would you ladies set out to give yourselves an "intentional wedgie".

Being a guy, maybe I'm missing something.


47 posted on 07/31/2005 3:20:16 PM PDT by CTOCS (This space left intentionally blank...)
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To: wagglebee

Bottom falls out of thong market


What??? No Pictures??????


48 posted on 07/31/2005 3:20:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Iraq is a Terrorist bug hotel, Terrorists go in, they do not come out.)
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To: wagglebee; pissant

I have noticed that the ladies who go to the bar I go to are now going commando, and I ain't talking about the Navy SEALs.


49 posted on 07/31/2005 4:58:47 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: wagglebee

bump


50 posted on 07/31/2005 5:14:10 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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