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Smoking among our soldiers
Juky 21, 2005 | self / vanity

Posted on 07/20/2005 11:12:03 PM PDT by The Other Harry

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To: PeteB570
Cold lima beans, luke warm coffee, and Pall Palls. Under some circumstances, I thought this was great. :-)
61 posted on 07/21/2005 10:04:33 AM PDT by verity (Big Dick Durbin is still a POS)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

Hah! :)


62 posted on 07/21/2005 10:05:40 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: The Other Harry

LOL I knew you were joking Harry. BTW did I ever tell you I have a dog named Harry? He spells his name Hairy. He is a good boy! ;9)


63 posted on 07/21/2005 10:09:19 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: The Other Harry
I have been concerned that so many of our soldiers seem to smoke. This includes the woman at the Abu Gaibe (sp?) imprisonment camp.

Don't you think that it would be better if this were restricted, at least to when they they are not on duty?

That way, it would be be safer, both for them and for those around them.

Harry:

I'd venture to say you've never worn the uniform or have been in a War Zone.

Considering where the "adult" soldiers are. And what they are doing and have to put up with day in and day out.

Smoking, which hasn't been criminalized yet; is the LEAST of their concerns.

Jack.

64 posted on 07/21/2005 10:21:12 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: The Other Harry

By any chance do you know Bogdan Polska?


65 posted on 07/21/2005 10:23:59 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("If not us, who? And if not now, when? - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I seem to remember seeing KC (Killer Chick) being featured on The History Channel's "Modern Marvels" show dedicated to the A-10, Fierce Alliegiance.

Jack.


66 posted on 07/21/2005 10:28:35 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Ditter
BTW did I ever tell you I have a dog named Harry? He spells his name Hairy. He is a good boy! ;9)

Give him a kiss on the nose for me. ;)

It's nice to know that a few people knew I was joking. It's also nice to know that not everyone did.

Fyi, I got a lead off FR on some chick who lives not too far from me. We'll see how this turns out. I just sent her a long, introspective message.

I still wish you were single. ;) again.

67 posted on 07/21/2005 10:43:42 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry

You are a good boy too Harry. Even if I was single I am too old for you, good luck with the young chick!


68 posted on 07/21/2005 10:58:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: The Other Harry
... Don't you think that it would be better if this were restricted, at least to when they they are not on duty?

Why don't you take a big handful of sand and cram it up your posterior!

69 posted on 07/21/2005 10:59:51 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: The Other Harry
Don't you think that it would be better if this were restricted, at least to when they they are not on duty? That way, it would be be safer, both for them and for those around them.

So we should restrict the personal freedoms of people risking their lives to preserve our freedoms?

70 posted on 07/21/2005 11:01:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Bellflower

Take the sand and cram it.


71 posted on 07/21/2005 11:02:41 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: The Other Harry

This a joke, right?


72 posted on 07/21/2005 11:03:19 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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73 posted on 07/21/2005 11:09:54 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: The Other Harry
That way, it would be be safer, both for them and for those around them.

Compared to what!? FGS!

74 posted on 07/21/2005 11:09:59 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Protagoras

> This a joke, right?

Already asked and answered.

Since that apparently went over your head: Yes.


75 posted on 07/21/2005 11:26:08 AM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry

Figured it was a joke when I didn't see any external sites linked. LoL, you'll have to try a bit harder next time.
Ah here we go, this is a good anti-site.
Post would've been more believable with a link to a spot like this. http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hecs-sesc/tobacco/facts/blueribbon/secondHand.html


76 posted on 07/21/2005 11:28:25 AM PDT by Edmund Plantegenet
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To: The Other Harry
Already asked and answered.

Since that apparently went over your head: Yes.

Since it seems to have been asked and answered a few times maybe it went over a lot of people's heads. Alternately, you aren't too good at joking.

77 posted on 07/21/2005 12:15:40 PM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: 68 grunt

What, are you in love with your cigarettes??? They certainly go along with your attitude.


78 posted on 07/22/2005 12:43:00 AM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: CTOCS

Hey, it was you who replied.


79 posted on 07/22/2005 1:10:56 AM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
You use the word "allowed", with some frequency. Is this consistent with the view that we are a free people? Will you next be telling me what else I am "allowed" to do?

The point with the word allowed is what are you "allowed" to do on a job? I did not make the point that anyone should be allowed or not allowed to smoke on their own time and in there own home, car and life. The point is that continuous smoking on the job or on duty should not be allowed. The army is about discipline, not allowing sloppy, dirty, unhealthy habits while on duty. Search out the army and cigarette smoking on the net and you will see that the army itself considers the amount of smoking going on in the army a problem. Check out http://www.fra.org/mil-up/milup-archive/04-21-05-milup.html

Also here is a letter issued by the Army.-------------------------------------------------

17 April 1986 Army Proclamation against Smoking DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY WASHINGTON, D.C. 20310-0200 17 April 1986 PROCLAMATION The readiness and well being of Total Army members and their families challenge us to deal with the problem of tobacco use. Medical evidence shows overwhelmingly that the use of tobacco products adversely impacts on the health and readiness of our force. Tobacco usage impairs such critical military skills as night vision, hand-eye coordination, and resistance to cold weather injuries. Moreover, it increases susceptibility to disease. It has become a substantial threat to the well-being of our Army, and we must take immediate steps to eliminate its usage. Every Army member is charged to make this goal a reality. All of us have a clear responsibility in making this happen. As part of the Army Tobacco Cessation Action Plan, we will encourage smokers to quit through a program of education, information, and assistance. We will also safeguard the health of smokers and nonsmokers alike by limiting the areas in which smoking will be permitted. Finally, we will check on all forms of tobacco usage from time to time to determine progress in meeting our goal. We believe this campaign is absolutely essential to maintain the health and readiness of our Army Ours is a profession unique in many respects, requiring physical fitness and stamina to get the job done. Each of us must be ready physically to endure the strains of a crisis. Additionally, caring leadership dictates that we demonstrate a sincere, unambiguous concern for the health and safety of those entrusted to our care. John A. Wickham, Jr. John O. Marsh, Jr. JOHN A. WICKHAM, JR. John O. Marsh, Jr. General, United States Army Secretary of the Army Chief of Staff--------------------------------------

And yes, I would puritanically hope that people would not smoke in excess as it is bad for their health and for those who don't smoke it is awful to be around. What I would hope for others and what they do on their own volition is up to them as long as they are on their own time (or working for themselves or someone who allows them their bad habits in excess while working for them). Because we are free we are free to do what is right and to encourage others to do what we know to be right (hopefully they are mature enough to appreciate it). What is life if it is not helping each other along in the right direction? And by the way, the puritans were, historically speaking,on the whole, great people.

80 posted on 07/22/2005 2:12:56 AM PDT by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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