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Harley 1200 Roadster or Triumph Bonneville???
my empty head | unpublished | Hammerhead

Posted on 02/17/2005 1:50:30 PM PST by Hammerhead

So what's it gonna be for my first bike?


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Im leaning heavy on the Bonneville. (I love gun and motorcyle threads!)
1 posted on 02/17/2005 1:50:35 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

Both are nice but the Harley will have better parts availability and you are more likely to be able to find somebody who can fix it when you break down in EBF than a Brit bike.


2 posted on 02/17/2005 1:51:50 PM PST by pikachu (BE alert -- we need more lerts!)
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To: Hammerhead

Anything is better than a Burly Thumpison.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 1:52:11 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Hammerhead

What's a 1200 Roadster? They have the 1200 Sportster, is that what you're looking at?


4 posted on 02/17/2005 1:53:58 PM PST by kc2theline (Support our troops and the CIC that sends them to defend us.)
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To: Hammerhead

For your FIRST motorcycle? Try something smaller, like a nice Honda or Yamaha in the 750cc range. After you get some saddle time then you can go for the big iron.


5 posted on 02/17/2005 1:54:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

the Bonneville is only 790CC. pretty small bike IMO. I don't want to look like a circus bear on a mini-bike!


6 posted on 02/17/2005 1:55:30 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: kc2theline

1200 Sportster (Roadster) model


7 posted on 02/17/2005 1:56:07 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead
If you're single, get the Harley. If not, go for the Triumph. Do the Triumphs still have a Lucas electrical system? If so learn basic principles of electricity, not that they have anything to do with Lucas systems.
8 posted on 02/17/2005 3:34:07 PM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: wolfpat
What is your definition of 'riding' a motorcycle?

Harley's are good for cruising cities and freeways, and slowly winding roads. Easy to toss a girl on the back and chug along. You'll also fit into an image, AND, if she's the right kind of girl, she'll be impressed.

The Triumph isn't so good for those things. It doesn't have the visual (or aural) impact of a Harley. The seating isn't as accommodating to the female behind (uhm, behind you). However, for curving roads and quick blasts from point to point the Bonneville will make you feel like God's younger, faster brother. A Harley chugs; a Bonney roars. Girls won't be impressed with the Bonneville. Too small, and too old looking. The Bonneville is for you. If you live within 100 miles of the mountains, you'll never wonder what to do on a Sunday morning again.
9 posted on 02/17/2005 4:09:42 PM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: pikachu

Female point of view: I have to "ditto" what pikachu said. I can remember stopping in Stanton, VA where a guy fabricated a part for our Triumph. On the other hand, I never particularly cared for the Harleys. The one we had would rattle apart every 50 miles. There is a very good reason for that tool kit under the seat. You need to stop and tighten everything you can reach. Maybe they are better now - that has been some years back.


10 posted on 02/17/2005 5:01:17 PM PST by Roses0508
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To: lOKKI

You're second paragraph makes my point. If you're single, a Harley won't let that continue for long.
True story: One night years ago, my band was between sets, and I was outside talking to a girl. A guy she knew rode up next to us on the baddest Kawasaki made and asked her when she wanted to go for a ride on his new motorcycle. She replied, "As soon as you trade that POS in on a Harley."


11 posted on 02/17/2005 5:57:52 PM PST by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: lOKKI

hmmmm....don't necessarily agree.

I've always preferred subtle class vs. "LOOK AT ME EVERYONE!" I think what threw me over to Triumph was when I was watch a biker build off with Arliss Ness (???). Im like, what a big, commercial, shiny, pile of crap that whole scene is.

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/Triumph_Bonneville_2005.php

(click on larger pic)


12 posted on 02/18/2005 6:48:43 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: martin_fierro

Summon the hooligans.


13 posted on 02/18/2005 6:53:48 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

yeh, that me! 42 y.o., suit and tie, 2.5 kids,....

be like that Seinfeld episode where the old timers are chasing George in those motorized wheelchairs. : )


14 posted on 02/18/2005 6:59:47 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

45, Kawasaki Concours. :)


15 posted on 02/18/2005 7:01:27 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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16 posted on 02/18/2005 7:54:22 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Hammerhead

Don't you mean Sportster?


17 posted on 02/18/2005 7:57:35 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Hammerhead

Get there faster.

18 posted on 02/18/2005 7:58:58 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: wolfpat

ROTF....


19 posted on 02/18/2005 8:00:26 AM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: Hammerhead

99 Suzuki Bandit 1200. Cheap and fast.


20 posted on 02/18/2005 8:00:28 AM PST by jtminton ("I shall never surrender or retreat." William Barret Travis Lt. Col. Comdt., Bexar, Feb 24th 1836)
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To: Hammerhead

By the way, the 1200 Sportster is the fastest production bike Harley makes.

I've got the custom version and am very happy with it.


21 posted on 02/18/2005 8:01:13 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Hammerhead
IMHO, a good starter bike is the Kawasaki 750 Vulcan.

OK, it may not be the prettiest thing on the road. But it's relatively inexpensive, has a ton of great features, and is extremely low-maintenance.

Its shorter wheelbase helps it handle well in the corners.

22 posted on 02/18/2005 8:02:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Hammerhead

My first bike was a 1981 Suzuki GS650E. Got it for $500. Sold it for $500. It was a good one to learn on.


23 posted on 02/18/2005 8:04:43 AM PST by jtminton ("I shall never surrender or retreat." William Barret Travis Lt. Col. Comdt., Bexar, Feb 24th 1836)
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To: Hammerhead

Bonneville - that what hubby said he'd buy me for my first bike if ever I decide to ride on my own. Handles better than the Harley and brakes better too. *Flameproof suit on*


24 posted on 02/18/2005 8:09:40 AM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: martin_fierro; Hammerhead
Either one is a good choice ~ having owned a Sportster myself and after selling it in 2000 and buying a Suzuki SV650, I would recommend the Triumph Bonneville.

Go ride each one and then make the choice.


25 posted on 02/18/2005 8:09:52 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: StarCMC

Star* ~ anything handles better than a Harley ~ trust me. :):)


26 posted on 02/18/2005 8:12:05 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You're a Connie guy, eh??

*extends hand*

Met a lot of really cool Connie guys down in Texas last Feb. Nice bikes!

We ride an FJR. Hubby has an R-1 for fun.


27 posted on 02/18/2005 8:12:31 AM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: blackie

I will trust you!! They have an image you can't argue with - but riding to me isn't 40 mph on winding roads -- I prefer somewhere around double that! *G*


28 posted on 02/18/2005 8:17:01 AM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: StarCMC

You and I like the same kind of riding ~ that's why I have the SV650 ~ it's one of the best back road blasters around. :)


29 posted on 02/18/2005 8:23:00 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

We were following a couple of riders last weekend, both on Harleys. The front rider was female and very obviously a novice. (Braking hard into curves - like down to 20 mph and couln't negotiate a smooth path, etc.) Hubby made the comment that for a first bike she should have had something lighter weight and better handling. Especially when you're first learning it'd be smarter to worry about handling and safety than looking good - IMHO!!


30 posted on 02/18/2005 8:27:18 AM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: StarCMC

Roger that!!!! :):)


31 posted on 02/18/2005 8:30:33 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

Jake's 3.5 months old now - it's been about 6 months since I went for a ride. It's killing me!! :o)


32 posted on 02/18/2005 8:33:03 AM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: StarCMC

Yup. Nothing like Harley squid.


33 posted on 02/18/2005 8:38:03 AM PST by jtminton ("I shall never surrender or retreat." William Barret Travis Lt. Col. Comdt., Bexar, Feb 24th 1836)
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To: martin_fierro
I ride a Vulcan Classic today never had a problem
My first new bike I had ever owned was in 76 it was a KZ900 and I loved it, most my friends rode either Harley's or triumphs.

Before I got the 900 I had a 73 Kaw, mark V 500 ,2cycle and the 900 was the same color and for the most part looked the same. One day one of my friends on he's 1200 Harley meet me at a light thinking I still had the 500 until the light changed and I left him 3 gears behind.

34 posted on 02/18/2005 8:41:42 AM PST by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: martin_fierro

D@MN that thing is ugly!


nope. see my link above for the Bonnie. $7500 gets it out the door.


(Plus Fonzie rides one. : )


35 posted on 02/18/2005 8:48:29 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: pikachu
...the Harley will have better parts availability and you are more likely to be able to find somebody who can fix it when you break down in EBF than a Brit bike.

The new Brit bikes don't break.

36 posted on 02/18/2005 8:52:56 AM PST by uglybiker (SPES MEA IN DEO EST)
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To: Hammerhead

Go for the Bonnie . . .

If this is your first bike and the choice is whittled down to these two, I have serious reservations recommending the Roadster even though I think its the better bike. The Bonnie is lighter, has less horsepower and will generally be easier to learn your riding skills on. It is also a capable mount for light two-up riding.

Let me know what you think of Peter Lucas . . .


37 posted on 02/18/2005 8:56:42 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: StarCMC; Tijeras_Slim
The bike sure is purty.

Slim sure is not.

38 posted on 02/18/2005 8:57:58 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: blackie

Still grinding the pegs there, eh blackie? Good for you! Ride safe . . .


39 posted on 02/18/2005 8:58:14 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: Hammerhead

Get one o' these and you don't want anything else.

40 posted on 02/18/2005 9:15:56 AM PST by uglybiker (SPES MEA IN DEO EST)
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To: uglybiker

what it it?


41 posted on 02/18/2005 9:23:40 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead
Q: What is the difference between a "Harley" and a Hoover?

A: The position of the dirtbag

Q; Whay do Harley's leak oil?

A: To mark their territory

Q: What does it mean when a Harley Stops leaking oil?

A: It's empty

I went on a ride around Lake Superior last year. IT was a five day trip. In the group I was with there were 6 Harley's and the rest were "rice burners". By the end of the third day, we were down to 1 Harley. the rest had crapped out. MY "rice burner" (Honda Goldwing) completed the trip without incident. OBTW, thelast Harley had to be loaded into a truck at the end of the run becuase the owner didn't trust it to get him back to ND without breaksing down.

For all you that wanna yap about Harley being "American made" check out who made the carbs (Japan) and the wheels (Korea). At last comparison Harley's were 45% foreign parts. Honda Goldwing (made in USA by the way) is 52% foreign parts. There is no amount of money that will ever get me back on a Harley. I have owned a Duo-glide, an Electra-glide and up to buying my 'wing, a superglide.

Harley? Never Again

Semper Fi

42 posted on 02/18/2005 9:25:36 AM PST by Trident/Delta ("Veni..Vedi..Velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around......")
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To: Hammerhead
The pic in question is a Moto-Guzzi. An outstanding bike.

Semper Fi

43 posted on 02/18/2005 9:31:02 AM PST by Trident/Delta ("Veni..Vedi..Velcro... I came, I saw, I stuck around......")
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To: StarCMC

Six months is way too long to go without having a motorcycle between your legs! :)


44 posted on 02/18/2005 9:43:04 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: BraveMan

Yep ~ still grinding pegs ~ I'll do it as long as my eyes and reflexes remain in great shape ~ ya can't beat the adrenaline rush! :)

I'll be 75 on October 26th.


45 posted on 02/18/2005 9:48:20 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Hammerhead
Moto Guzzi
46 posted on 02/18/2005 9:48:25 AM PST by uglybiker (SPES MEA IN DEO EST)
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To: Hammerhead
Rent before you buy.
Buy what you feel comfortable on.
Parts are cheaper to remove than add on.
KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid
If your feet don't land FLAT on the ground standing still, the bike is the wrong fit.
Knowledge of repair or dealer shop locations is a must.
Used or new, resale value is a factor.
Never refer to your riding partner as baggage.
Realize your FIRST bike may not be the right choice for you after you've racked up some miles.

Riding is extrememly personal. Weigh all the options, BUT make your own choice.

And finally ---

37 years on 2 wheels makes it hard for me to imagine a first bike again. Good luck and enjoy your search.

Crash78

47 posted on 02/18/2005 10:08:12 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (@100mph, you have no friends.)
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To: Trident/Delta
Duo-Glide


Electra-Glide


Superglide


Any/all of these '60s/70's era bikes would be welcome in my garage. They'd be worth a ton of money today.
I wonder what a '70s era Gold Wing is worth?
48 posted on 02/18/2005 10:13:50 AM PST by BraveMan
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I'd give my left nut for that superglide!! YOWZER!!!


49 posted on 02/18/2005 10:23:06 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (@100mph, you have no friends.)
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To: Hammerhead
Here's my personal opinion on this, so take it as you will (somewhere between "all-knowing, all-seeing guru," and "this guy doesn't know WTF he's talking about)...

IMHO, either of these bike will be a major mistake for you, as your first bike. That's the key: They're both fine bikes, but both could well be a major headache for you.

First off, a first bike should be one that's light weight and relatively small. Something to remember is that even small displacement street motorcycles will accellerate faster than many sports cars. But they typically won't overwhelm you with their power.

First, decide on what sort of style you prefer. But don't buy it yet...

Second, find a MSF safety class, and learn the basics of riding. They'll supply you with a very small displacement bike (usually 50cc - 125cc). I actually saw some people taking the class decide that they didn't want a bike afterward.

Then find a used bike with a displacement of 450 - 600 cc. Don't go with a sports bike, unless that's what you're looking for. And stay away from the sport 600cc bikes... Heck the new ones can compete with 750cc and even 1000cc bikes on the race tracks!

The nice thing about these smaller, used bikes is that a) they're not the high dollar bikes you are looking at right now, so if you drop it, you won't be as heartbroken. And it will be alot easier to pick back up. And b) As I mentioned before, it's going to be alot harder to overwhelm yourself with the power. Or the braking! Something you'll really need to learn is proper braking, and with a lighter bike, it will be alot easier to learn. For instance, while I completely expected the power of my 900cc Ducati when I bought it, I wasn't ready for the fact that I could lock up the front wheel at 70 MPH! And that bike will slow in about 1/2 the distance of a car at the same speed. Again, this is something that you'll learn in an MSF class.

Once you're comfortable riding a bike, then "graduate" to one of the ones you've decided on.

Mark

50 posted on 02/18/2005 11:02:09 AM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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