WHO ELSE??
Posted on 12/31/2004 3:04:23 PM PST by pissant
The top REAL MAN Presidents in our history:
5. Ulysses S. Grant: A serious General, a very smart man, and unafraid to take a swig of good whiskey.
4. Ronald Reagan: A lifeguard, football player, and unabashed commie stomper. Chopped wood in his seventies like a 20 year old.
3. Andrew Jackson: Indian fighter, fearless politician. Not named Old Hickory for nothing.
2. Theodore Roosevelt: Boxer, hunter, adventurist. Finished his speech with a bullet in his chest.
5. George Washington - True gentleman. Fearless in battle and explorer in his youth.
GWB gets honorable mention for having the fortitude to piss on the europeans and do the right thing in the war on terror. And for being a hot shot pilot in the Air National Guard.
Perfect for one of the founders of the demo rat party.
I vote for Abraham Lincoln.
Cheers.
true. But he was one tough Son of a B***h. And the dem party he started was not nearly as pathetic as what it has morphed into (a party of gays, feminists, and pacifists).
An alcoholic with questionable morals -- who happened to be a General -- doesn't cut it in my book.
Yup. . .should have thrown the bum out of the military. . .worthless drunk.
;-)
Not to mention he had an annoying habit of considering his soldiers to be expendable.
LMAO....So much for you being classed as listless......what is this now a dozen most best top 10-20-100 lists in the past 36 hours ?;O)
You writing a book ?
Merry New Year .......
US Grant was a very smart general, though not a particularily good politician. His alcoholism is a myth. Heavy drinker, yes.
WHO ELSE??
I think that since your stated topic is Real Man Presidents, you are looking for a certain attitude, not necessarily the greatest presidents. I think your list is pretty good, although I'm not a big fan of Jackson and Grant surely had his demons (a complicated and misunderstood man in many respects.) Zachary Taylor might also deserve some consideration. Anybody called "Old Rough And Ready" in a very tough era, and who also died a manly death related to something he drank at a Fourth of July commemoration, has to be on some kind of list.
Haven't you heard?
Liberal historians say Abe was a "pooftah"!
The real news out of Iraq is a trickle. The tsunami is 24/7. It's a good time to have some fun, and provoke some arguments (good natured, of course).
I agree that he found his men expendable but I believe that many have found out he was drinking apple juice a good percentage of the time though he was a heavy drinker at times in his life........more myth than fact
"So who is #1?"
Sorry for the bad labeling job. Its George Washington.
Thanks for mentioning Cleveland. Besides being a wonderful President (possibly our most libertarian), he showed some toughness with his secret operation to remove a part of his cancerous jaw. Which, by the way, can be viewed at the Mutter Museum in Philadelphia. Don't see it anywhere near meal time.
Well, there is a time and place for everything...;-)
With a wife like his I think I would taken a closer look at Grant as well :-P.
Seriously though. This depends on what you think is manly. And in my book Licoln, is a TRUE man.
Happy new year.
Great general. Horrid president.
He was president during an extremely difficult period of our history, so I do cut him some slack.
I want to send every officer a case of what he was drinking.
Doesn't take much to shoot the wad of an overwhelming force -- then be called a "great General."
He was weak and ineffective over and over again in office. None of that detracts from his military career, though.
No kidding.
But, he fought the English....
Lincoln himself was drinking heavily when he said that ;-)
It would have been tough to be a domineering president and try to heal the war wounds at the same time.
Jefferson, though I admire him greatly, was not a manly man. Much too refined. Now Ben Franklin, on the other hand, was a stud with few equals.
just keep your eyes off the torso area.....
It's not so much that as he was far too trusting and quite frankly, childlike, in many ways in his true nature. That doesn't make him a bad person, it just didn't translate into an effective president.
I vote for Teddy Roosevelt. If he impressed hard-bitten NoDak and SoDak cowboys in the late 1800's with his toughness, and he did, he must have been the real thing.
I think frankly Grant didn't really want to be a politician. Kinda like Ike.
He was indeed.
It took a tsunami to get the MSM off of Rumsfelds back!
Since you're doing all these top 5 and 10 lists how about the top manly-man Secretaries of Defense?
Didn't know that. Micheal Smerconish's Philly Big Talker show mentioned the Mutter this week. I'll have to perambulate over there some day soon.
For a while I would even have wanted GWB on that list.
Alas....
You are 100% right, he didn't.
That's a plus in my book.
What do you think of Ike's handling of the Suez?
less than stellar
Just as an aside, the legendary drinking of Dean Martin is now known to have been apple juice and an excuse to avoid being a "celebrity". Makes sense, if you think about it.
Anyone who wishes to defame U.S. Grant, a prolific writer in the same vein as Winston Churchill, only needs to go to a local library for some of his very unique and highly personal correspondence.
Like I said, a very smart man.
Many would say the same of Dwight D. Eisenhower.
I would never say that!
I agree, his autobiography is heralded as the best of any U.S. President........I forgot the title.......stupid me.
Neither would I. Two completely different personalities.
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