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A Comment on the Atmosphere of FR
A concerned FReeper | December 30, 2004 | K1avg

Posted on 12/30/2004 12:26:25 PM PST by K1avg

For the past several months, fate has conspired to keep me away from the computer. I haven't posted nearly as much on FR as I used to. With the holidays, though, I've had an opportunity to catch up a bit.

What I found on my return is a bit disconcerting. While there's always been an element here that refuses to reason and does little more than insult Democrats and RINOs, it seems that this mentality has taken over a large portion of our membership. I've encountered more shrill, radical nonsense in the past couple of days than I had in the months before my absence.

Certainly it's acceptable to gloat a bit after our enormous gains on November 2, but I do believe it's about time to get back to normal business.

Referring to Democrats as “Rats” or some variant thereof may be somewhat amusing, but seeing the reference in nearly every other post really gets annoying at times. Pet names for Democrats and RINOs may be funny the first time, but quickly get old. It's one thing to respect someone, and it's certainly acceptable to not do so for one reason or another, but it's never alright to be downright incivil.

Just the other day, I was in an argument here with some other members who were supporting Yanukovych over Yushchenko because Yush had pledged to remove Ukraine's 1600-some-odd-strong force from Iraq and was *gasp* more liberal than Yanukovych. Seriously, that's absurd. I'd be happy to debate with you here, but anyone can tell you Yushchenko as president will be much better for the Ukrainian people, our interests in Iraq be damned.

But I'm getting away from the subject at hand. These are just a few examples of the devolution of discourse here. While everyone is certainly allowed to have their own opinions, there is a certain level of civility that should be maintained, regardless of the context.

This is the sort of stuff you find at DU, not here. I recognize there's plenty of good, civil users here, and I'm thankful for that. To those guilty, though, it would be nice if you could tone it down a bit.

I love being here. Things like the Undead Thread, Daily Dose, and crushkerry's Lib Pundit tournament, along with the usual daily banter of normal news, makes FR like no other political site on the web. Let's keep it that way. Thanks for your time, and have a lovely day.


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I just dashed this off real quick, having been meaning to do so for several days, and had meant to be able to sit here for a bit and respond to any inquiries regarding my message and its content, but unfortunately I unexpectedly am called away.

I'll be back later this evening, though, to address any concerns. This is one of the best political sites on the web, and I'd like to keep it that way. Only a select few are guilty of what I've alleged, but as the saying goes, one proverbial rotten apple spoils the barrel.

Cheers!

1 posted on 12/30/2004 12:26:25 PM PST by K1avg
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To: K1avg

You think the Left isn't a danger anymore? Are we supposed to go back to September the 10th complacency?

And in case you didn't notice, we almost had Hanoi John in the White House.


2 posted on 12/30/2004 12:28:58 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: K1avg

Go back to Krusgnet you liberal RINO! (Just kidding)


3 posted on 12/30/2004 12:29:12 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Owl_Eagle
"Referring to Democrats as “Rats” or some variant thereof may be somewhat amusing, but seeing the reference in nearly every other post really gets annoying at times. Pet names for Democrats and RINOs may be funny the first time, but quickly get old."

Yeah, so cut it out.

5 posted on 12/30/2004 12:30:31 PM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: K1avg

I've been busy with the kids the last few days, and didn't have time to upgrade the Molasses Miasma of Niceness generator. You could try building your own. Bless your heart :-).


6 posted on 12/30/2004 12:30:56 PM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: K1avg

Sn0rE_FeSt


7 posted on 12/30/2004 12:31:16 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: K1avg
Member Since Mar 20, 2004

You haven't been here long enough to know what its like.

Same as always, grow a thick skin or go elsewhere.

8 posted on 12/30/2004 12:31:25 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: K1avg
This is the sort of stuff you find at DU, not here.

No. Over at DU they are not doing much bashing. They are trying to figure out whether Ramsey Clarke is a hero or the devil.

9 posted on 12/30/2004 12:31:52 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: K1avg
RATS RATS RATS RATS RATS RATS RATS RATS
10 posted on 12/30/2004 12:31:53 PM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: Tax-chick; Foxfire4
I've been busy with the kids the last few days, and didn't have time to upgrade the Molasses Miasma of Niceness generator. You could try building your own. Bless your heart :-).

Daaaaaaayum. THAT'S gonna leave a bruise.

}:-)4

11 posted on 12/30/2004 12:32:57 PM PST by Moose4 (I'm patriotic--just a white guy in a blue county in a red state.)
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To: K1avg
"I just dashed this off real quick, having been meaning to do so for several days,"

Why the delay?

12 posted on 12/30/2004 12:33:53 PM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: K1avg

From your homepage:

"please be contented in simply reading my amazingly well-crafted posts. The knowledge and wisdom one can gain from observing my superior intellect at work is astounding."

You want a return to civility...how about a return to humility????


13 posted on 12/30/2004 12:34:03 PM PST by dawn53
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To: K1avg

I guess you're a RINO.


14 posted on 12/30/2004 12:34:31 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: K1avg

Oh, I don't know. As a recovering 'Rat I find the name quite apropos :)


15 posted on 12/30/2004 12:34:34 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: K1avg

I think people should be allowed to post virtually anything they want at FR (with some obvious exceptions). If you don't like what some people are posting, then just ignore them and reply to those FReepers you want to. There are some immature FReepers, just as there are immature people in general life. But I don't think asking them to tone it down will accomplish anything whatsoever. If anything, it will only egg them on. Ignore them.


16 posted on 12/30/2004 12:34:43 PM PST by cwiz24 (Hey Democrats---Now who's ya daddy?)
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To: K1avg

Typing "rats" instead of "democrats" saves bandwidth, and it's much beter than typing "demokkkrats".


17 posted on 12/30/2004 12:35:03 PM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are say-y-y-y-ing is give Beast a chance!)
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To: Moose4

Well, I didn't bless his bowels, even though the short version of the post might be, "Somebody disagreed with me, and wasn't particularly diplomatic about it!"


18 posted on 12/30/2004 12:35:23 PM PST by Tax-chick (To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just.)
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To: Moose4
Daaaaaaayum. THAT'S gonna leave a bruise

...better put some ice on it.

19 posted on 12/30/2004 12:35:43 PM PST by paltz
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To: JoJo Gunn

It's one thing to fight the left, and hopefully accomplish something, it's another to simply throw insults at them, usually accomplishing nothing.


20 posted on 12/30/2004 12:35:58 PM PST by K1avg (Dino for Senate '06!)
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