"farm" the dead

[one_eyed_penguin]

I was completely shocked when I read this article. Yes, shocked! This is no fiction of horror, it DOES exist in real life.

A so-called "dead" farm is a place where seveal acres of private land surrounded by barbwire, in a sleepy town of Tennessee, where this guy collects unclaimed and donated corpse for his deeds under the disguise of scientific research.

Unclaimed body, young and old, men and women, placed in various places inside his so-called farm allow them to decay and consumed by various insects. The maggots will consume a human body in just one day, he said in smile. Dr. Bill Bass is an anthropologist, he dedicated himself for this type of research.

We all agree that a decent burial upon death, along with life and liberty are fundamental rights for all human being. A human body belongs to oneself, no one has the rights to claim them or use them for any means. It's a precious gift to oneself by The Mighty Lord.

I felt pity for those who died and treated this way by this evil man, their soul may NOT RIP.

[one_eyed_penguin]

I don't know what to say, this is a crime against humanity, cannot be justified, this guy deserves life sentence if not death, burn in hell

[EggsAckley]

this guy deserves life sentence if not death

Uh, of what crime should he be convicted? While his "hobby" is weird and creepy, it still does not seem to be a crime.

[Bringbackthedraft]

Coming soon to theaters near you "Farm the Dead".

[intenseracer]

I believe this "farm" is part of the forensics laboratory system. It has been featured on television several times, and the information that is gained by the observations help crime laboratories to solve crimes.

[Names Ash Housewares]

Isnt this the place where donated bodies are used to help solve murders? If this is the same place Ive seen on television, forensic science is being done here to help catch and convict murderers. If people are freely donating thier bodies to science, I see no problem with this. A murderer could walk without this kind of science being done. Yeah I wish this wasnt necessary, but I wish people didnt commit murder too. If its the same place Im thinking of, it is necessary science for our legal system to best serve justice.

[Living Stone]

This corpse farm is owned, IIRC, by the University of Tennessee, and is used to train forensic anthropologists, who do indeed investigate murders and other suspicious deaths. I might be wrong about this next part, not having read the article, but I think that participation of corpses is volontary, permission having been obtained prior to demise, of course.

[Humidston]

Umm, with all due respect, if this is the doctor I've seen featured on TV crime shows, he's done amazing research into the effects of the elements on decomposing bodies.

And because of his detailed research, many many murderers have been convicted.

No, it's not "pretty" but it's an area that needed clear perimeters.

[Ken H]

Personally, the idea of being buried in a coffin gives me the willies. I wouldn't be caught dead in one.

At least with the maggots, I'm out in the open, so to speak.

This might be an even better alternative-- Donated bodies blown up by Army

[one_eyed_penguin]

a human body live or dead belongs to oneself, not objects.
if we so-called human is any different from other low-life forms, we must show respect to our own race. This is still a fundamental rights.

[one_eyed_penguin]

Yes, scientific research help law enforcement slove crimes, but you cannot commit a crime to solve a crime.

[Living Stone]

Yes, your body belongs to you, and if you so choose you may donate your corpse to this program. Why do you have a problem with people disposing of thier remains as they see fit?

[one_eyed_penguin]

I believe in humanity, human race deserves respects by itself, alive or dead. Then why should we risk the lifes of many others trying to bring back the dead ones (men or women in uniform) on frontline battlefield, showing respect to other people is an honor of human race.

[one_eyed_penguin]

how about "leaves no one behind?" It's not necessary then, we want to make a difference, We do respect fundamental human rights and that's the way we do it.

[Living Stone]

I understand what you are trying to say, but the point you may be missing is that these people are not body-snatchers or graverobbers. The people doing this research are helping to catch and convict very bad people who have no business among us. They are not using corpses unless they were donated by the person who became the corpse. If you have infomation contrary-wise,please post a link to it.

If, after I die, I wish for my mortal remains to be used for this research, how is that being disrespectful to my corpse, since it is what I wished while alive?

And what dang difference does does it make, anyway? Once I am departed from this body, it will no more be me than the oak tree in my front yard is now.

[EggsAckley]

"you cannot commit a crime to solve a crime"

You keep calling this a crime. It is NOT. Perhaps you disagree MORALLY, but it is still not a crime.

[one_eyed_penguin]

It's still not justified, like I said before ones life and body are indivisible elements of oneself called human. no one has the rights to claim these elements.

Slavery was legal in ancient times, common people's life too are not considered meaningful by kings, emperors, tyrants whatever. The time has changed, now we do respect these fundamental human rights.

I may think ahead of our time? Maybe, I wish one day we should all understand human life and body are a precious things given by The Mighty Lord. I wish we never have to do this again.

[one_eyed_penguin]

Ok, It's not a crime by our standard, but it's morally unjustified.

[Khurkris]

Google results on Dr. Bill Bass quite an interesting story.

IMHO, it is far from a crime. It is a vital and important piece of research that he is doing. And I also think, at least for me personally, its a lot better than beong stuck in a box and buried under the dirt. My body is just a container for my spirit.

[one_eyed_penguin]

Yes, morally unjustified, but not a crime by our standard.

murders deserves death due to the fact that they have comitted a terrible crime called man slaughter.

The thing is how could you do this to someone's body who has nothing to do with the criminals. It's absolutely un-necessary and against morality.

How about unclaimed bodies of murder victims used for this research, that's NOT legal and a crime.

It's the murder who deserve death and research on his (or her) body not victim, innocent people deserves a decent burial.

If I have the $ I would not hesitate donate some to the local government so they can bury the unclaimed bodies of murder victims.

[one_eyed_penguin]

Why should good and innocent people pay that hefty price for the murder while the murder killing more innocent people then RIP?

murders must pay for their price by murdering someone, having their body researched. We need a system like that.

[one_eyed_penguin]

still unjustified, murders cannot have more rights than innocent people! use dead terrorists body, let them sleep with maggot and cockroaches!

Why should good and innocent people do not deserve RIP? why? We need a change on this. Pleasing the enemy (bad guys) is the equivalent of murdering your own people.

[EggsAckley]

I'm starting to think that our little one-eyed friend is pulling our legs. Something disingenuous about his posts. Repeating the same old same old nonsense, post after post. JMHO, of course.

[one_eyed_penguin]

I say we use murderers, terrorist's body for medical and law enforcement research, our government should guarantee a decent burial that we can afford for every good citizen. I'm sick and tired of this nonsense.

[EggsAckley]

"our government should guarantee a decent burial that we can afford for every good citizen."

One-eye, you really stepped in it here. Anyone who would say that government should pay for everyone's burial is almost certainly a liberal. Your feigned writing "accent" is a little weak and grows tiresome, as does your posting the same gibberish over and over.

To quote from your very own post, "I'm sick and tired of this nonsense."

[Focault's Pendulum]

You're about fourteen years of age...aren't you.

[EggsAckley]

Hey FP! Howdy!

Sir One Eye started this thread nearly 4 hours ago, and has been basically talking to himself ever since. I think your guesstiment of his age is pretty close. What I love is the phony affectations in the writing.

The Mobys are getting a little more clever lately. Must be some seminar training going around.

Cheers!! EA

[Focault's Pendulum]

Cheers!

Same to you my good friend.

I was gonna ask to check for pubic hairs...but I didn't think that would go over too big.

[EggsAckley]

But wouldn't one-eyed penguins have feathers insead of hairs? I'll go look at the peacocks and get back to you on that one.

~</;o)

[one_eyed_penguin]

I'm not saying government should guarantee everyone a burial but those who cannot afford a burial or unidentified bodies, why not? If you don't have a financial problem then take care you own. I have no problem with that.

I don't call myself a liberal. I do believe in crime and punishment but I don't believe innocent people should pay for the criminals (murderers, terrorist etc.) Thank you.

[sweetliberty]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was about the democRAT campaign strategy.

[EggsAckley]

You're NOT saying that government should guarantee everyone a burial?? Eat your own words, one-eye:

"our government should guarantee a decent burial that we can afford for every good citizen."

Nice try, though. Thank you for playing. Now, back to DU with you, child.

[Focault's Pendulum]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was about the democRAT campaign strategy.

Well. You are perhaps on point. Send prebuscent strategists to attempt to interrupt intelligent thought.

[Chewbacca]

This is cool!

They showed something like this on Discovery or was it USA channel.
The research this guy does is used in forensic police detective work to charge killers with crimes.

What this person does is not a crime, but benefits society by helping to catch killers who think they can get away with murder.

[EggsAckley]

This just in: feathers.

[Focault's Pendulum]

This just in: feathers.

Ya just gotta love Google.

[EggsAckley]

Speaking of Google, I did a search on the one-eyed one, and turned up a few of his FR posts. THIS one jumped out at me. Typical Moby; mindless, pointless vanity, back in February.

[EggsAckley]

Oh Mr.Penguin? Have you FINALLY stopped posting to yourself? Hmmmmmm............nobody home?

[Focault's Pendulum]

Some of those responses were pretty funny.

[EggsAckley]

Funny: Ha ha, or Funny: pathetic??

~</;o)

[Focault's Pendulum]

both.

[EggsAckley]

Heheheh. Yup.

YM @ 82%

[Vigilantcitizen]

Why should good and innocent people do not deserve RIP? why? We need a change on this. Pleasing the enemy (bad guys) is the equivalent of murdering your own people.

Did it ever occur to you that there are people out there who donate their bodies to science, so that places like this can scientifically determine exactly the time of death of adiscovered, decomposed corpse, by the life cycle of the insects that feed on dead flesh.

The science developed at that facility has helped convict murderers, thereby saving lives.

Matter of fact, I may just donate my corpse, if you don't mind.

[KangarooJacqui]

Unclaimed body, young and old, men and women, placed in various places inside his so-called farm allow them to decay and consumed by various insects. The maggots will consume a human body in just one day, he said in smile. Dr. Bill Bass is an anthropologist, he dedicated himself for this type of research.

But... WHY????

(and a supersize "eeeeww" for good measure.)

[KangarooJacqui]

Right, that's what I get for not having three cups of coffee and reading the comments (which were far more informative than the article) before FReeping.

*slaps wrist*
*steps away from the computer*
*goes to make triple-strength Nescafe...*

[.38sw]

I believe that there is such a "farm" used to research how long a human body takes to decay under various conditions and circumstances. That information is used by criminologists to help determine how long a person has been dead (if the body is in advanced stages of decay, so that it's far more difficult to determine time of death) and so may help solve the murder.

[EggsAckley]

What you say has been explained to old one-eye over and over, and yet his responses are just redundant reiterations of his original post. He's a fraud, IMHO.

[.38sw]

I didn't read the entire thread before I posted. I guess that'll teach me.

[LibKill]

I've seen this 'farm' on one of the education channels, History or Discovery or some such.

The corpses are scientifically examined in every stage of decomposition. The results of this research are used in criminal investigation, and in the courts.

It's nasty, but it serves a legitimate purpose.

[KangarooJacqui]

I didn't read the entire thread before I posted. I guess that'll teach me.

Don't feel so bad. You weren't the only one.
(No, hang on - I DID read the article, just not the comments - which is where the real knowledge lay in this thread. That article told me precisely stuff-all.)

[stylin19a]

I think I've already read this book, it's by HG Wells...The Island of Doctor Moreau