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Nobody wants U.S. Treasury bonds
SEMAFOR Blog ^ | November 28, 2023 | Liz Hoffman

Posted on 11/30/2023 5:49:08 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

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1 posted on 11/30/2023 5:49:08 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: ping jockey

It’s by design. It was done to utterly destroy this nations wealth in an effort to usher in the totally government controlled population for the express purpose of the long held globullists desire to subjugate the entire worlds population and create a permanent royal class at the top with 99% of the rest relegated to serfdom and slavery.


^^ THAT ^^


3 posted on 11/30/2023 6:03:30 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
“You can buy a 6-month T-bill that’s yielding north of 5%. Why wouldn’t you buy that instead of a long bond that’s yielding 4¾?”

That 4.75% coupon is literally worthless at maturity with this high inflation.

4 posted on 11/30/2023 6:09:59 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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That 4.75% coupon is literally worthless at maturity with this high inflation.

I just bought 17-week treasuries at just over 5%. Where else can one do better in something that's relatively liquid, especially considering that the 5% interest is exempt from state tax?

5 posted on 11/30/2023 6:24:58 AM PST by KevinB (Word for the day: "kakistocracy" - a society governed by its least suitable or competent citizens)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

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6 posted on 11/30/2023 6:30:43 AM PST by griswold3 (I cannot change the Tide but I can learn to Sail)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Short term treasuries are ok. But you have to be on a suicide mission to invest in 30 years bonds. Not only will escalating interest rates and inflation clobber the holder, but never expect to see a credit rating uptick in treasuries. We are on a constant roll of a declining rating to junk status as the debt drives us into insolvency


7 posted on 11/30/2023 6:39:49 AM PST by chuckee
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

bttt

NBER
https://www.nber.org/

Claims to be “non-partisan,” but is a ring-leader for centralized control.


8 posted on 11/30/2023 6:41:23 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: KevinB

Agree—great move for capital preservation.

We can profit from .gov evil and stupidity.

As long as you stay short term you can ride the wave wherever it goes.


9 posted on 11/30/2023 6:42:04 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: KevinB
Where else can one do better in something that's relatively liquid, especially considering that the 5% interest is exempt from state tax?

Stocks are still good, if rates slip I'd prefer 2-5 year notes.

10 posted on 11/30/2023 6:42:45 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: linMcHlp

“Claims to be “non-partisan”

There is a cartoon out there showing sheep being herded by two bordie collies, one on one side of the field and the other on the other side of the field.

We are the sheeple. The two political parties are the border collies. Heads they win tails we lose.


11 posted on 11/30/2023 6:45:23 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: linMcHlp

I forgot to mention the farmer.

If you believe the farmer is real you are a “crazy conspiracy theorist” sheep.


12 posted on 11/30/2023 6:46:48 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Nobody wants US Treasuries”

Complete nonsense.


13 posted on 11/30/2023 7:02:34 AM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

To the contrary, in the last few weeks the US Bond Index rose from 107 to 115.

So someone seems to want to buy US Bonds.


14 posted on 11/30/2023 7:13:30 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: griswold3

I’ve got a bunch. 1, 3, and 6 month. Pretty easy to set up a ladder on Treasury Direct. I’ll take the 5.5% for now.


15 posted on 11/30/2023 7:16:46 AM PST by glorgau
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To: KevinB

Tax-free Muni bonds. States and cities are highly motivated to pay healthy yields, even if everything else goes into default, because those yields are just a fraction of the principal they can use.

So find a respectable bond fund and solely invest in Munis.


16 posted on 11/30/2023 7:27:35 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Jane Long

Eating our seed corn…….


17 posted on 11/30/2023 7:54:29 AM PST by 4Liberty (https://twitter.com/Lauren3veMemes/status/1712636606983688420 )
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To: KevinB; 1Old Pro

Exactly. We have a couple of different variations in T-bills...all 5%+. Not a perfect scenario but, at our age, we hesitate to put cash in riskier investments. Stock market is on a roll right now...but it could’ve just as soon gone in the other direction. No state tax on T-bills is a modest but pleasant little kicker. Saves us about 5% on the interest earned. The short-term nature of T-bills is another nice characteristic. So far, we’re just rolling them over.


18 posted on 11/30/2023 8:06:27 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: glorgau

Bond ladder. Yep, that’s the way we’re doing it.

I actually called the TreasuryDirect toll-free number last night regarding a new “savings” acct I set up at our credit union to deal with the bonds. Dialed the number about 4:30pm, tapped a few choices on their telephone menu and a real live human being answered in no time. Very helpful guy.


19 posted on 11/30/2023 8:18:19 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/richest-country-world-now-bankrupt-141245951.html


20 posted on 11/30/2023 8:33:38 AM PST by SteveH
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