Posted on 11/08/2023 8:58:15 AM PST by Red Badger
How about we table the abortion debate until AFTER WE WIN?
I want to win so we can somehow keep ourselves out of WW3. Id like to afford to put gas in my truck. Id like to be able to comfortably shop at the grocery store. How about stopping the indoctrination at our schools?
And yet so much of the right wants to make abortion front and center! its maddening how stupid our side is. As soon as a democrat hears abortion they are motivated to vote. How about we do as much as we can to damper their will to vote? Naw, LET MOTIVATE THEM. Damn, our side is so DAMN STUPID.
“The common denominator is Ronna McDaniel.”
To some degree, you are correct.
I’m looking solely at yesterday’s results. Kentucky was always gonna be tough. You had a popular Dem Governor with lots of money and name ID. Hell, his dad was governor of the state too. Cameron should have waited four more years and then ran for Governor. He’d have likely easily won.
Virginia is lost. We thought there was a chance after the elections of two years ago. But govt workers, suburban soccer moms and leftist single women have ruined it. Abortion played a role there unfortunately.
We (the GOP) got what we wanted when Rowe v Wade was over-turned. However, there’s the old adage of wanting something too bad. It has now turned around to bite us on the butt. Even red states like Ohio and Kansas won’t agree to a ban on abortion. Few states will. All we succeeded in doing was to give the Democrats a baseball to hit us over the head with - repeatedly.
We do face other hurtles such as a well-funded Democrat party with all of its appendages such as labor, abortion rights groups, the MSM etc. They love to demagogue any issue they can and worse yet, we don’t fight back.
I’m not defending Mcdaniel. She needs to resign. But she alone is not the problem.
Does anyone really believe that after the disaster of the last two years that people voted en masse for democrats? More of the same? I don’t believe it.
“GOP has to run candidates that guarantee first trimester abortions or disappear.”
The GOP blew it because they allowed the DNC, and the media, to direct their platform. No one issue is going to be changed overnight. You can’t expect to go from high speed to stop right away. Slow down is the only workable way. But by the GOP literally hanging their success on this one topic and not thinking about how to approach it, they fell like Custer.
I’m not seeing mortgage rates out of control, a huge deficit trade problem, crime up due to cuts in law enforcement funding, lack of control at the southern border, supply line problems...all I see on the docket is abortion. And the GOP doesn’t have a chance as the world doesn’t live on black/white or even good/evil. It takes time and they didn’t allow that. There are no easy solutions when there are many and limiting to one is foolish.
Hope they spread themselves out a little with more of the topics that are just as, or maybe more, important than just abortion. And the libs have failed at all of them. But no on will ever know, or remember, they did because abortion is the first and last line of problems the US has...according to them
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So you are willing to burn the world down, LITERALLY, so you can say you stuck to your guns?
Cause thats what you are doing. How can so many be so damn hardheaded? Everytime abortion is made the main issue, WE LOSE! And with each loss this country sinks deeper into the morass. But at least i kept my abortion druthers!!!!
As far as I’m concerned, nothing does more to diminish my enthusiasm for the Republican Party than one more statement by a corrupt, feckless tool like Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham or Nikki Haley calling for an unlimited stream of taxpayer funds for that homosexual midget running Ukraine into the ground.
“Then whats the point of voting?”
Because it makes you feel like you’re taking action.
I still vote. I don’t get upset at the outcome anymore though.
I could retire but I still work part-time to fend off boredom.
Being in the last 1/3 of my life, I don’t get worked up about elections very much. The younger generations are taking over. They have to decide on their own values and fight their own battles.
Boomers and Gen-X had their time. We were the Reagan Revolution. We found our values and fought our battles.
Now our time is either passing or already passed.
In swing state that have GOP legislatures they need to put referendums on the ballot that have overwhelming support. For example voter ID, drug tests for welfare recipients, and similar measures
Not only do right thinking conservatives have to fight the left and democrats, we have to fight our hard headed brethren who insist on bringing up the one subject that motivates democrats to vote. JHC, on days like this it is hard not to agree with the people who say all is already lost.
Boomers and Gen-X had their time. We were the Reagan Revolution. We found our values and fought our battles.
Now our time is either passing or already passed.
Im only 50. I have some time left and I’m not willing to just toss my hands up and just live with what is being presented to us today. I have the money to leave, but where would that place be? There really isn’t anywhere to go if we aren’t willing to seriously fight for this country.
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“Im only 50. I have some time left and I’m not willing to just toss my hands up and just live with what is being presented to us today. I have the money to leave, but where would that place be? There really isn’t anywhere to go if we aren’t willing to seriously fight for this country.”
Then keep up the fight.
I stopped because I think it’s largely a lost cause and the outcomes were making me angry. I don’t like being angry. That’s when I came to the conclusion that my time had largely passed. Raging against that seemed pointless. I have the means to live a good life, so that’s what I’m doing.
Your mileage may vary.
>>They will never concede on the issue of abortion. Even if it costs elections.
So in typical stupid republican ways, they would rather have abortion legal up to 9 months in every state (By allowing democrats to continue to win and then get laws passed), rather than compromise and get *some* limits that most voters would agree to and which would save some of the unborn...i.e. if I can’t save 100% of the unborn, I don’t want to save any of the unborn.
Great strategy.
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That started in 1948.
They never fail to fail.
You speak of stupid republican ways and compromise.
That’s been the modus operandi for decades. Republicans have always given lip service to this abortion issue and compromised with the Democrats.
Until Trump. Until Trump appointed 3 Supreme Court Justices that turned Roe v. Wade back to the states. Which pissed off the Stupid Party which in turn has doubled down on the “compromise” rhetoric.
You want to compromise with the likes of Graham, McConnel, and other GOP elites? On their pro-abortion, pro Ukraine, pro open borders, etc. policies?
Not me. Abortion is the Number 1 key issue that defines the rest of the Party. If you get this wrong, then yeah. You will not be correct on Ukraine, the border, the economy, and everything else.
Biden lost Kentucky by more than 25 points three years ago. It is inexplicable how
the Republican Party is afraid to fight for voters, even in states where they are receptive.
Weird, isn’t it?
Youngkin tried to thread that needle in VA. It failed miserably. Republican candidates need to make abortion a “third rail” issue along with Social Security and Medicare.
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