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Heavy Metal: The Radioactive Ammunition Headed For Ukraine
Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty ^ | September 22, 2023 13:32 GMT | By Amos Chapple

Posted on 09/27/2023 9:19:02 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: ransomnote

When I worked in an overhaul facility for wide body commercial aircraft, I first encountered depleted uranium. The flight control counterweights on the Lockheed L-1011 were made of it. Maintenance manual said not to sand off corrosion if found on the surfaces. I believe Boeing and McDonnell Douglas also used DU for flight control counterweights.


41 posted on 09/27/2023 10:54:51 AM PDT by 6AL-4V
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To: Delta 21

I believe the sabot and shaped charge rounds behave similarly. There’s usually a copper cone or rod that gets turned into a superheated core penetrator once the shaped charge goes off, much like the DU sabot when it hits something. Both will fill any compartment immediately with a flash of superheated molten metal droplets that will set off any shells inside the vehicle and roasting the crew.


42 posted on 09/27/2023 10:59:38 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Red Badger
It's the combination of the thermal imaging, laser range finder and long range that makes the DU rounds so effective.

The effective range is 3000 meters (1.86 miles).

43 posted on 09/27/2023 11:03:02 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: 9422WMR
Not radioactive That’s why it’s called “depleted”

It's radioactive. 60% enriched. Not weapons grade fissile or suitable for power generation.

44 posted on 09/27/2023 11:18:05 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: 6AL-4V

1.6 times heavier than lead. Space saver on aircraft.


45 posted on 09/27/2023 11:32:53 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: Red Badger

How mny of these does Putin have?


46 posted on 09/27/2023 11:34:38 AM PDT by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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To: SpaceBar

I was thinking the same thing.

But I cannot imagine one of those rounds hitting a 60’s era tank. It won’t be pretty.


47 posted on 09/27/2023 11:45:42 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: DugwayDuke

I thought we could put speakers on the tanks so I we can get a nice lady to calmly talk the Russians into surrendering.


48 posted on 09/27/2023 11:47:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“ The primary health risk associated with depleted uranium is not its radioactivity but rather its chemical toxicity.”
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I would think the primary risk would be the projectile coming at you at Mach 2. But…I might be wrong.


49 posted on 09/27/2023 11:48:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

That might hurt!


50 posted on 09/27/2023 11:52:37 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Delta 21

Delta 21 wrote: “Better than anything smaller than 104mm. HEAT round aint no RPG.”

The DU rounds are 120MM.


51 posted on 09/27/2023 12:18:28 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: 9422WMR
"Not radioactive
That’s why it’s called 'depleted'."

Wrong answer.

Depleted uranium (DU; also referred to in the past as Q-metal, depletalloy or D-38) is uranium with a lower content of the fissile isotope U-235 than natural uranium. Natural uranium contains about 0.72% U-235, while the DU used by the U.S. Department of Defense contains 0.3% U-235 or less. The less radioactive and non-fissile U-238 constitutes the main component of depleted uranium.[emphasis added]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

52 posted on 09/27/2023 2:55:34 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: pierrem15
"...Both will fill any compartment immediately with a flash of superheated molten metal droplets that will set off any shells inside the vehicle and roasting the crew...."

This is why they don't use the same tungsten penetrators in go-to-war rounds as they do in the training rounds, despite tungsten being more dense than DU. There's a pyrophoric effect accompanying the spall with the DU round that the tungsten/training penetrator doesn't get. Which means both burning material flaking off from the penetrator (producing secondary burns), and it makes the penetrator "self-sharpening." If doesn't blunt on impact, the material sloughs off in a pattern that produces a new, sharp point, which gives it better penetration capabilities than non-self-sharpening materials. Neither of which happens with tungsten.

If you want to be kind to Mother Nature, use tungsten penetrators. If you want to destroy your enemy and win the war, use DU.

53 posted on 09/27/2023 3:10:20 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: jacknhoo

Thanks for that post, and it was worth repeating.


54 posted on 09/27/2023 5:14:04 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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