Today I am attending the G1 summit.
Posted on 05/21/2023 8:43:10 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
Are you sure it was a Patriot?
My first thought was one of the MiG-29s from Poland. They carry Aim-120s.
So, Ukrainian pilots will make the deliveries. Makes sense to me.
Ukraine bragging that they shot it down with a MANPAD.
Please ping me with any additional info.
Axium launch now
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The most likely scenario is a CAS mission in the Kherson Oblast.
When hit, the MiG pilot decided "Feet Wet" was his best option to avoid capture.
SpaceX Stage 1 successfully landed at Canaveral! SpaceX Dragon capsule on way to ISS.
Ukraine defenses going into radio silence mode now. Expecting another mass cruise missile attack tonight from Russian aviation from the Caspian Sea launch positions.
“Are you sure it was a Patriot?” (Su-35 over the Black Sea)
No, I thought Patriot was around Kyiv, but maybe there is a system in the South. I just posted what I saw on Twitter for consideration.
I thought the reference to Patriot was just a general observation about the generally higher attrition rate, rather than attributing that particular shootdown to Patriot.
“The most likely scenario is a CAS mission in the Kherson Oblast.”
@visegrad24 1h
“@Gromada24 writes that Ukraine confirms that one of the Russian Su-35 fighter that were bombing the Kherson region tonight was shot down by air defenses.
The head of the press service of the Kherson Defense Forces, Dmytro Pletenchuk, says it crashed into the Black Sea”
Today I am attending the G1 summit.
X-101/X-555 launches from Russian strategic bombers over Caspian Sea.
The term “Bakhmut Victory” to replace the term “Pyrrhic Victory”, as a better example of the concept.
@Tendar
In all honesty, I have covered many wars in several decades and I can say that I haven’t seen in a long time a more hysteric way to declare “victory” as we see now around Bakhmut...
As I have mentioned already few days ago, Russians do not intend to move any further, or more precisely, they are not capable to move any further, which simply begs the question what was this all about. What strategic value offers Bakhmut in itself? The answer is simple. None. This fact was even stated by Prigozhin, Strelkov and others. It is a military travesty, aiming only for political games of the involved Russian warlords.
The Ukrainian strategy on the other side has been coherent and quite clear. First, to deny Russians entry to Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, secondly, bind Russian forces and prepare for their counteroffensive and, third, in the process decimating their ranks, which - when reflecting 100,000 Russian casualties - they have achieved with flying colors. The only threat was a potential encirclement of Bakhmut with the subsequent destruction of the Ukrainian armies in it, but that was averted and Russians were forced to run against the heaviest fortification, a stupidity in itself and exactly how Ukrainian strategist can ask for.
Ukrainians have even achieved additional tactical advantages by binding additional Russian forces in Bakhmut. Russians were so obsessed with Bakhmut that they were depleting lines and more importantly ammunition in Kreminna, Svatove, Avdiivka and Vuhledar. Literally every single one of those named areas ended in total disasters. Especially, Vuhledar can be called an epic fail.
However, when you look at the numbers than you can see that Bakhmut was actually the worst sector for Russians, because for the sake of just “staying in this area” it makes literally no difference whether you stay inside Bakhmut or 7km more to the East, because this is their pathetic “progress” in almost 10 months. It is however a complete difference when you have those 100,000 men and millions of artillery shells at your disposal. Even some Russians are starting to realize this.
You do not have to take my word, the developments in battlefield will say this in the clearest language. History is full of examples where political lunatics forced their military leaders into steps which any sane military commander would never have done. The terms “pyrrhic victory, second Stalingrad etc.” have been used more than once. Maybe we will even add “Bakhmut victory” to the books. It certainly deserves a place in military idiocy.
@Tendar 2h
An bright light or explosion could be seen in Russian-occupied Simferopol. Since then a blackout hit the city.
@Tendar 8h
A fire in Voronezh, Russia, in a substation and next to a power plant has broken out. Locals say that they heard explosions prior to the fire. Electricity is partially down.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/21/7403165/
According to the (Ukrainian) Center for Strategic Communications, the defence forces hit the headquarters of one of the occupiers’ units in Berdiansk due to a night time strike...
Local Telegram channels write that “at 4:00, the city woke up to a series of explosions,” fire and thick smoke were observed in the airfield area.
It is noted that the city is partially still without electricity.
Odesa was getting hammered by drones and missiles regularly up until last week. If that is where the SAMP/T battery that was delivered last week went, it could reach Kherson. SU-35 vs Aster 30 is a significant mismatch.
@visegrad24 20m
President of the European Parliament, @RobertaMetsola, speaking in front of 70,000 pro-western patriots in Chișinău, Moldova today:
“If you chose Europe, Europe will welcome you with open arms and open hearts”
Moldova is on path of becoming an EU member together with Ukraine.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
ATHENS, Greece — Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, whose conservative party scored a landslide election Sunday but without the seats in parliament to win outright, indicated Sunday he will seek a second election in a bid to consolidate victory without need of a coalition partner.
@visegrad24 1h
The far-left, pro-Russian Syriza party declined by 11 percentage points, bringing them down to 20%.
Varoufakis & his Pro-Russian MeRA25 are out of parliament.
@bayraktar_1love 2h
Take this information for now as rumors without confirmation.
In Ukrainian sources, information began to spread actively that a Russian Su-35 had just been shot down over the sea. As claimed somewhere near Zaliznyi Port, Kherson region. ~50+ km from the front line.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Zaliznyi+Port%2C+Kherson&t=brave&ia=web&iaxm=maps
Perhaps the SAMP/T battery has been deployed to the Odesa area.
UKR would not want RU to know that, so they claim the Su-35 was shot down by a MANPAD.
Classic misdirection.
“The Russian Su-35 launched a missile toward Bilorezka in Kherson off of the coast near occupied Zaliznyi Port, immediately activated flares, and was then shot down in the Black Sea.”
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1660415445722333187
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