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Ron DeSantis Flies To Israel To Destroy Free Speech In Florida
Gab News ^ | 04/27/2023 | Andrew Torba

Posted on 04/28/2023 9:08:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/28/2023 9:08:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This exact article was posted and removed earlier today. Great job posting absolute nonsense. You should be proud.


2 posted on 04/28/2023 9:09:56 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: SeekAndFind

Destroy Free Speech?

Man the insane amount of fear and paranoia you people have against DeSantis is off the all nuts.

Get professional help.


3 posted on 04/28/2023 9:15:28 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Donald Trump is a setting sun. Ron DeSantis is a rising star.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is DeSantis backing all digital currency as well?


4 posted on 04/28/2023 9:26:14 PM PDT by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Notice the spin in this article:
"The Goyim Defense League’s activism takes the form of distributing flyers that contain “uncomfortable truths” about the individuals who control the mainstream media in the United States."

TRANSLATION: It's yet another white supremacist group that spreads anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

5 posted on 04/28/2023 10:01:16 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s not DeSantis we have to worry about. It’s dems weaponizing this law in the future


6 posted on 04/28/2023 10:03:10 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: SeekAndFind
From HB 269:

prohibiting a person from distributing onto 8 private property any material which contains a 9 credible threat to the owner, resident, or invitee of 10 such property;

Please note it does not stop people from voicing their opinion in the public square no matter what opinion they have. Rather it prevents them from threatening and harassing people on their private property.

7 posted on 04/28/2023 10:03:26 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: thefactor

RE: This exact article was posted and removed earlier today

So, it’s fake news?


8 posted on 04/28/2023 10:04:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Tired of Taxes

Like what? What did they say?


9 posted on 04/28/2023 10:05:04 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. If you actually READ THE BILL you’d see this account is false. But through your posts on this site, you have proven you care nothing of the truth.


10 posted on 04/28/2023 10:06:41 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: SeekAndFind
Link to the Bill

Another exert:

2. b. If a person violates subparagraph 1. by intentionally 53 dumping litter onto private property for the purpose of 54 intimidating the owner, resident, or invitee of such property 55 and such litter contains a credible threat, the person commits a 56 felony of the third degree,

So again, no restriction on speaking one's mind. Only a restriction of dumping litter on somebody's property to threaten and intimidate them.

This is NOT banning free speech, it is banning targeted threats and harassments against victims in their own home.

11 posted on 04/28/2023 10:08:57 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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I agree that anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism, but whether this move by deSantis is exactly that mistake, or something else, is not well illustrated by the opinion piece.

Usually moves against anti-Zionism dressed up as anti-Semitism are the work of progressives who support a Zionist viewpoint. It is unusual for conservatives to get involve in this bun fight which traditionally pits one sort of leftist against the other.


12 posted on 04/28/2023 10:11:52 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (In leftspeak, "disproven false claim" means fact. "Intolerance" means revulsion. "Progress" =failure)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope they leave this fake news post up so people can see what kind of poster you are. You post lies, you don’t actually read the legislation about which you comment, and you seem to have no respect for private property. Which is weird for someone on this site. Maybe if you don’t like private property rights, you should leave. We tend to respect it here.


13 posted on 04/28/2023 10:13:31 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: SeekAndFind

HB741 is a bill relating to passing school buses.

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/741/BillText/e1/PDF


14 posted on 04/28/2023 10:15:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: I got the rope; AndyTheBear
It’s not DeSantis we have to worry about. It’s dems weaponizing this law in the future

True.

Please note it does not stop people from voicing their opinion in the public square no matter what opinion they have. Rather it prevents them from threatening and harassing people on their private property.

We already have laws against threats and harassment. So what's the real reason for this bill?

To chill protected speech. A Soros type D.A. can use this bill to prosecute anyone passing out "offensive" flyers. So what if the person is eventually found not guilty after a stressful and expensive trial? The prosecution is the punishment.

15 posted on 04/28/2023 10:17:59 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: AndyTheBear
So again, no restriction on speaking one's mind. Only a restriction of dumping litter on somebody's property to threaten and intimidate them.

If BLM, or a Democratic politician, were to leave a flyer on someone's private property, would they be prosecuted as a felony for "dumping litter"?

What if I say I felt "intimidated" by a BLM flyer left on my lawn? Would my subjective feeling be enough for felony charges? Or would the subjective feelings of some groups be accorded higher deference than that of others?

We already have laws against threats and harassment. As with all "hate crime" bills, this one sounds like an opportunity for much mischief.

16 posted on 04/28/2023 10:27:29 PM PDT by Angelino97
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The problem with Soros DAs is Soros DAs. Bragg didn’t even need a coherent legal theory. There is simply no way to keep them from abusing their power through trying to make laws immune from their abuse.


17 posted on 04/28/2023 10:33:21 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure this is just about as accurate as the reports calling legislation he signed “the Don’t Sa Gay bill.”


18 posted on 04/28/2023 10:49:12 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A home should be a safe place from mobs pretending to express free speech but really intending to frighten those they disagree with, including the families and neighbors. Public squares are for politics and protests.


19 posted on 04/28/2023 10:51:17 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: AndyTheBear
The problem is lawfare. Prosecuting people in criminal cases -- or suing them in civil court -- not to win, but simply to harass and financially break their opponents.

Of course Soros DAs are a problem. But "hate crime" laws like this (which is what it really is) only makes lawfare easier, while achieving nothing worthwhile. Because as I said, laws against threats and harassment already exist.

20 posted on 04/28/2023 11:06:30 PM PDT by Angelino97
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