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Farmers On The Brink
Zubu Brothers ^ | 3-27-2022 | Doomberg via doomberg.substack.com

Posted on 03/27/2022 9:45:07 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 03/27/2022 9:45:07 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

O’Biden is getting what he wants.

Punishing U.S. farmers, and rewarding the Red Chinese.


2 posted on 03/27/2022 9:48:04 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: blam

Go ahead. Put all of your life savings and everything you can borrow into grain futures. It’s a sure thing. What could go wrong?


3 posted on 03/27/2022 9:48:31 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: blam

https://rumble.com/vmoksh-exposed-heres-how-they-are-trying-to-cut-off-the-food-supply-and-starve-you.html


4 posted on 03/27/2022 9:50:13 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: blam

The Liberals have stated that the earth can only support 30 million people.

They are trying to get us to that number.


5 posted on 03/27/2022 9:53:06 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: blam

Nothing is mentioned of the Invisible Hand - weather.


6 posted on 03/27/2022 9:56:04 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: blueunicorn6
"They are trying to get us to that number."

Well....those designated to go aren't going to go without a fight. Eh?

7 posted on 03/27/2022 9:56:21 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Heard there’s an idle potash mine in New Mexico from someone on here the other day. Ruy, was that you? Near Carlsbad IIRC.


8 posted on 03/27/2022 9:56:29 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: blam

I had an Oklahoma wheat farmer, on this forum, tell me his yield could be off as much as 50% if he had to plant with no fertilizer. If that’s the case globally, we are already screwed.


9 posted on 03/27/2022 9:59:07 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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And the naysayers here are not concerned.

There is a huge normalcy bias still happening here and in the population general.

Bumped into a Mother & Father shopping in Walmart this morning. She stood in front of the near empty pasta aisle and asked out loud where all the pasta was at. She looked dead at me confused by the evidence in front of her.

I told her what Biden said this week about food shortages are coming. Her response was with 6 kids she doesn’t have time to watch the news. I responded, “Well, ya’ better start.”

What we have right now is still the supply chain issues. By late July-early August the food shortages will be getting real.


10 posted on 03/27/2022 10:08:11 AM PDT by EBH (Hold My Beer. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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I was reading that thread earlier. I am a central texas farmer growing mostly forage and small grains and hay for animal production. Fourteen months ago I bought UAN 32 fertilizer for 232 a ton. 18 days ago I bought another load to top off my storage silos for 820 a ton. Friday a friend in South texas called in a panic because he had been quoted 2000 a ton for fertilizer. I gave my supplier a quick call and he had already been selling for 1200 a ton delivered and this next week was planning to go to 1600.

Part of this issue is the fertilizer price and part is the almost 5 dollar a gallon diesel fuel. Fertilizer in this area mostly all gets trucked in from Houston as it is needed.

What people need to realize is what these inputs actually mean as we are just into spring planting here and it goes to the north as it warms up. If fertilizer hits 2320 dollars which it appears it will easily, that will mean my input cost on one single item will be 1000 percent higher. Figure in diesel costs twice as much this year and parts are ridiculously expensive and hard to come by as well as oil and lubricants to service my equipment and you are basically going to come up with a commodity price that is 15 times what it was last year.

All that will rapidly filter down to the grocery stores as most all of it is traded on the futures and what that boils down to is if a grocery bill from last year cost 200 dollars I wouldn't be surprised to see it north of 2000 before very long for the same items.

I highly recommend planting a garden if a person is able to and stock up on flour, salt, yeast, dry goods and can goods while the market is still sane.

11 posted on 03/27/2022 10:18:51 AM PDT by JohnDeereGreen (It's time to rally once again!)
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I plant a 50’x50’ garden. I went to Southern States three weeks ago to buy seed. Plenty of seed. I asked about fertilizer and was told they had some. Another employee chimed in they still had some because the price was so high. I was then told the manager had already let the employees know that, as of three weeks ago, they had zero fertilizer in their distribution chain, nothing for spring planting coming. My immediate fear was producers like you being told the same thing. Have you heard of a projected end of the line of fertilizer supplies at any price yet?


12 posted on 03/27/2022 10:31:39 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: blam

Invented by Monsanto (which is now owned by Bayer) in the 1970s, glyphosate has been linked to certain blood cancers and is targeted for elimination by many environmental groups.

There is absolutely no credible scientific study that links glyphosate to anything other than plant genes. There is however, tons of anecdotal tales, stories, “evidence” that glyphosate is the worst killer of humans since DDT. However, last I heard of 7 suicidal people, having failed to achieve their goal, drank the 43% stuff (not he 3-4% store bought products) and several suffered stomach aches of varying degrees of distress, one did achieve his goal. You will definitely be in trouble if you are a plant or some sort of “human” with plant genes.

Bayer has either sold or is in the process of selling its glyphosate manufacturing division. Might be bought by any one of the dozens of other glyphosate manufactures.


13 posted on 03/27/2022 10:33:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I grew up two miles from a very sleepy potash mine in central Michigan. It was surrounded by fields, dirt roads, and zero infrastructure.

20 years later I haven’t been in that area in years but I have to wonder what that plant looks like now.


14 posted on 03/27/2022 10:41:05 AM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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I can't really speculate on the futures pricing on fertilizer at the moment as this I kinda unprecedented with the current situation we have. But I can tell you this is just the beginning of spring planting and those spot prices if you look at them do not look very good. The momentum is straight up at the moment and like I said the demand is nowhere near peak yet. I figure it hits 2800 or so before it slows down some but I could be all wet on that.

Biggest issue is you have to have it to produce the yields that are being demanded. Until the commodity prices react some I think some farmers may choose to leave some land out of rotation this year. But then again what do you do. If you don't plant it you don't get a crop and no crop no income.

I also do a bunch of custom work both planting and harvesting for other local farmers as it is more lucrative but as this has all unfolded many of my customers have already canceled plans for me to farm their fields even before I have told them that harvesting costs will be double this year. I would say about 80 percent have already bailed on me this year. Gonna be a hard year for everyone I reckon.

15 posted on 03/27/2022 10:41:58 AM PDT by JohnDeereGreen (It's time to rally once again!)
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You farmers are beginning to scare me badly. Maybe I better go back and let the politicians reassure me. I really appreciate what you guys do. Good luck with the crop.


16 posted on 03/27/2022 10:47:21 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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I've known many times what it is like to almost starve and I think this will be a bad time for all but we will persevere and I don't know how but come out of it in the end.

Like I said plan and prepare if you can and know that those of us who do this for a living buy groceries too. We ain't out here making a killing off of the work we do. Its all about the love of working the land and producing food for everyone.

In reference to earlier about the supply of fertilizers, production is already ramped up but there is a limit to how much can be produced as well as how difficult it is to increase capacity. We wont run out of fertilizer just wont be able to afford the cost due to demand. The distribution side of retailers will run out immediately because the are trying to avoid getting caught with a bad spot price as well as they know that the everyday consumer probably won't purchase a bag of fertilizer at ten times the price and it would be foolish to be sitting on that inventory.

17 posted on 03/27/2022 10:58:41 AM PDT by JohnDeereGreen (It's time to rally once again!)
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18 posted on 03/27/2022 11:25:11 AM PDT by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: Rural_Michigan

...potash mine in central Michigan.


Hersey?


19 posted on 03/27/2022 11:29:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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“... about a potential glyphosate shortage.”

Reopen the mines at Carlsbad NM.


20 posted on 03/27/2022 11:40:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (No dog in the Unraine war, but we still root for the underdog.)
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