Posted on 03/27/2022 8:28:43 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
If you oppose nations that launched not one but three invasions of neighboring countries does that make you a warmonger? If you opposed Germany in 1942 did that make you an FDR supporter? I’m trying to understand how this works.
The Russians weren’t even interested in western Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.
In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.
But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.
This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc
If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.
Figure it out this way: opposing Russia doesn’t mean doing what many here want by acting as if America needs to be world cop, continually holding Europe’s hand, getting in bed with Soros and the WEF as they are tied to Zelensky.
There are points in history when you support neither side and this is one of those points, especially so given that Putin is no match if he tried going in to NATO territory, and given the bioweapons labs in Ukraine that Bongino and others reported on, Hunter and the big guys involvement, and so on.
So Putin raping Ukraine NOT OK, abut US raping Ukraine IS OK!! GEEZE
Hopefully Putin can find a “facing saving” excuse for wrapping up this non-”WAR”. There certainly is nothing “honorable” in his systematic destruction of residential areas of cities, schools, hospitals, and women with children. I’m sure Erdogon is happy Putin has arranged for so much of his military hardware to be destroyed. He does not wish to share Syria’s fate vis a vis relations with Putin.
You are the fake conservative opposing Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. Your post is 100% nonsense.
So if I oppose 19th century style expansionism by a dictatorial state today, I’m a warmonger. And if I opposed Hitler in the 1940s, I was an FDR puffer.
Got it.
Oh, yeah because Erdogan is such a stand up guy.
Godwin’s Law. Don’t go that route as it’s ridiculous.
Secondly, supporting the U.S. doing what it continually does by incrementally getting drug more and more into foreign wars and entanglements is supporting warmongering and goes against what the Founding Fathers told us. Plus, you would be helping Biden because he wants a huge US involvement to take attention off of him being a colossal failure.
Supporting Zelensky means you would be supporting Soros and the WEF and supporting him doing nothing about bioweapons labs.
So support neither side and know that Putin won’t go into NATO territory.
“Because Erdogan is waiting to take over his role as the next “Baddie” as he tries to rebuild the Ottoman Empire, he needs a weakened Russia for that.”
Some people do not realize that southern Ukraine and all of Crimea used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, and for a longer time than “Russia” can claim them.
Okay Goodwin’s law now, got it. So I can expect no more talk about Ukrainian Nazis?
How about Korea? If you opposed the North Korean invasion of the South did that make you a Truman puffer?
Staying neutral is de facto supporting Putin and Russian aggression. And no, I’m not a warmonger. I’m not calling for combat intervention.
Oh wait, I guess I am a warmonger since I don’t post “Go Russia” like others here.
“Donald Trump completely supports Ukraine including more military aid to Ukraine than Biden has given.” Who knew that Donald Trump was a Soros globalist stooge? The Putinistas’ heads must be exploding as their narrative falls apart.
*** Well said. And shoulda BEEN said... to the Putin Puffers.
We INVADED Ukraine? When did that happen?
Nice try...lol
Nah, we didn’t invade, we crossed their border and set up shop.
It was perfect and you know it!
Wow! “High heels Zelensky”, and another Putin troll/lurker reveals themselves with gay bashing inuendo. What is it with these trolls and their gay bashing terminology? Subconscious uncertainies about their own tendencies? Putin with his bare chested bravado displays some of this same insecurity about his masculinity.
Fascinating information about oil/gas discoveries in Crimea in 2012 and also in Donbas/Lukansk with exploration contracts to major US oil companies. I have noticed that a number of these trolls/lurkers have joined FR in 2012 or more recently.
The Ukrainian Nazi thing is the continual go-to for others here though The Sun, Buzzfeed, Yahoo News and others say real Nazis in the number of about 20k are in Ukraine fighting against Russia. So if you are anti-Nazi you would be saying they should leave Ukraine as they aren’t helping its reputation.
Secondly, comparing the South Korea of the past to the filth wasteland that Ukraine has become and with them being infected by the likes of Soros, the WEF, pervert Zelensky, Hunter, etc, is a False Comparison on your part.
Third, Russia is not Communist as was North Korea.
Supporting neither side is necessary because of this, because Putin is unsavory, because Putin won’t go into a NATO country, we aren’t obligated to defend non-NATO members, so go parachute and fight, you gung-ho keyboard warrior, if you disagree.
Anyway, you’re too emotional to talk to so get back to me when you have more logic in your pocket. Take care!
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