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Exclusive Eyewitness Recounts Shooting on Alec Baldwin Movie Set: One bullet ripped through both victims
Showbz 411 ^ | 10/22/2021 | Roger Friedman

Posted on 10/22/2021 7:38:59 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: China Clipper

Seriously, someone could have wanted the cinematographer dead, and framed Baldwin for the murder.

What a plot twist that would be.


61 posted on 10/22/2021 8:08:09 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thank you for that explanation, so many others are assuming Baldwin was doing something stupid or intentional. I may not like the guy but I find it difficult to believe he was intentionally discharging a firearm at real people.


62 posted on 10/22/2021 8:08:46 AM PDT by databoss
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To: left that other site

I always test the over penetration of my handloads, especially when I am loading and shooting blanks at other people.


63 posted on 10/22/2021 8:10:01 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: GingisK

This one was reported to have one live round.


64 posted on 10/22/2021 8:10:25 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: marcusmaximus

Here’s a question- Why isn’t it a rule to never allow anyone to be in front of a gun when filming a scene?

It violates the the 1st and 2nd rules of gun safety-always treat any gun as loaded and never point it at anything you don’t want to die.


65 posted on 10/22/2021 8:11:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: wbarmy

I saw an old “Murder, She Wrote” like this. Now that old lady has seen it all!


66 posted on 10/22/2021 8:11:34 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: Mr. K

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/22/1048295916/props-gun-death-injuries-rust-movie-set-rare

“When I’m doing a training session with a performer, my main guideline, the heartbeat of the conversation, is to make sure that they are treating any weapon — whether it’s a bladed weapon or a firearm — as if it could potentially kill somebody. And those are usually the words I use,” said UCLA’s Williams. “It’s a serious situation and everyone’s got to be on their game.”

Hollywood adheres to Safety Bulletins, written and distributed by the Industry-Wide Labor-Management Safety Committee, for standards on weapon and prop safety, as well as other rules.

In the first bulletin addressing firearms and the use of blank ammunition, the document notes prominently: “TREAT ALL FIREARMS AS THOUGH THEY ARE LOADED.” It goes on to say live ammunition is to never be used nor brought onto a set.

However, these are recommendations and not binding law.


67 posted on 10/22/2021 8:12:06 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: PGR88
would immediately charge me with at least 3rd degree murder, probably 2nd.

Involuntary manslaughter, perhaps? Clearly I'm not a lawyer either.

68 posted on 10/22/2021 8:13:04 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: Delta 21

That’s a good safety protocol, FRiend. :-)


69 posted on 10/22/2021 8:13:27 AM PDT by left that other site (A Man Without Self-Control is like a City Broken Into and Left Without Walls (Proverbs 25:28))
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To: Mr. K

If you’re filming a scene where on person shoots another it’s hard not to violate some of those rules. It’s been done many, many times throughout movie history.


70 posted on 10/22/2021 8:13:30 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Spok

I agree and understand about teaching the kids. I have five and was teaching to use a 410 as an anti-snake gun. We had targets and each one fired a shot, then around again. My youngest daughter ran in front of the barrel to look at what happened to the target “snake” just as the shot had been fired. No real issue, the shot had already happened, but I used this as an opportunity.

I chewed her up six ways from Sunday on never running in front of a barrel and made the other children stand there and listen. She was bawling, sobbing and crying by the time it was all over, but none of them ever forget.


71 posted on 10/22/2021 8:14:00 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: GingisK

Or maybe someone set him up.

https://uproxx.com/movies/alec-baldwin-live-bullet-round-prop-gun-halyna-hutchins/


72 posted on 10/22/2021 8:15:29 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Yo-Yo

I agree with your assessment but why was there a live round in the gun?


73 posted on 10/22/2021 8:15:56 AM PDT by Tuxedo (We have become China… the destroyer of worlds…)
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To: PGR88
If I were out hunting with friends, and this same thing happened,

A legal argument that you took a prop gun on a hunting trip before accidentally shooting your hunting buddy point blank in the face would likely be pretty weak in court. You'd be charged and very likely convicted of at least manslaughter.

So can we assume Alec Baldwin will be charged?

I'd assume he'd be fully investigated. But likely not criminally charged. Of course the facts are pretty sparse and only trickling out at this point.

My guess is that there's going to be quite a bit of civil court action happening on this one.
74 posted on 10/22/2021 8:17:50 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: marcusmaximus

The Hollywood spin is revving up.

Next, they will engage the fifth-column media afterburners to avoid mention of “negligent manslaughter” or “negligent homicide.”


75 posted on 10/22/2021 8:19:16 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: COBOL2Java

True, blanks don’t have a bullet at the end, but the blast from the exploding powder is certainly enough to kill a person at close range. There are a number of instances where a person with a handgun loaded with blanks put the muzzle to their head and pulled the trigger, fully expecting that nothing would happen - and they died on the spot from the expanding gases penetrating their skull and entering the brain.


76 posted on 10/22/2021 8:21:06 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: mmichaels1970
I agree that it is 'innocent until proven guilty'. I just think as well that there is a risk of it being dismissed as an accident by a guy with a bad history, as inconvenient to the local movie industry, and as a high-profile person that is given a break that wouldn't be given us.

He should be in jail until they figure it out, just like would happen to any of us.

77 posted on 10/22/2021 8:21:27 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: PGR88
So can we assume Alec Baldwin will be charged? HAHAHAHAHAHA... No, he won't be charged. They'll find a stagehand who's a closet conservative to blame it on, and maybe charge him/her.
78 posted on 10/22/2021 8:22:06 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

The person in possession of the gun is always responsible to clear and make safe


79 posted on 10/22/2021 8:22:27 AM PDT by Stonewall1
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To: 1Old Pro

Just wondering about that NPR article.

Is that How do you want your steak ~ “Rare”,
or like we like our abortions? ~ “Safe, legal and rare”?


80 posted on 10/22/2021 8:23:34 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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