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Oracle Engineer Who Helped Design CDC Coronavirus Tracking System Dies from COVID-19 After Getting the Vaccine
GP ^ | June 13, 2021 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/13/2021 7:56:02 AM PDT by White Lives Matter

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What if the jabs suck so bad, that the powers that be think it’s better for their plans, to say people who got the jab died of the coof, than to admit the jab killed them.


61 posted on 06/13/2021 11:53:13 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

What if the jabs suck so bad, that the powers that be think it’s better for their plans, to say people who got the jab died of the coof, than to admit the jab killed them.
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Yes. I believe it’s part of the biowarfare design.
I had come across a research paper saying that there was no way to tell vaccine induced sensitivity from native Covid.
I think it was ADE they were referring to. So ADE means you could become more severely ill than you would have if you had not been vaccinated because with all those extra spike proteins triggering all those anti-bodies, when exposed to the virus your body overreacts.

That paper said testing would not discern whether a person was seriously ill with Covid or as a result of over-reacting to Covid exposure due to the vaccine.

This makes sense as a weapons design. They would not want us to be able to tell who had breakthrough and who had ADE.


62 posted on 06/13/2021 11:58:36 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: grey_whiskers

What if the jabs suck so bad, that the powers that be think it’s better for their plans, to say people who got the jab died of the coof, than to admit the jab killed them.


Oh, these honest, respectable CCP/BigPharma owned entities wouldn’t do such nefarious things.....would they?

Wake up, sheeple.


63 posted on 06/13/2021 11:59:31 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: mass55th

It should of gone to the article, the link from the FR post.


64 posted on 06/13/2021 12:08:33 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: grey_whiskers

grey_whiskers wrote: “What if the jabs suck so bad, that the powers that be think it’s better for their plans, to say people who got the jab died of the coof, than to admit the jab killed them.”

No one is saying that.
Besides, what ‘plans’ are you referring too?
For what reason would this group of conspirators wish to take the phenomenal risk of introducing a vaccine that is poisonous to those who take it? BTW, if the vaccine is so poisonous, where are the bodies? Over 170 Million have been vaccinated. If this vaccine is a poison, then it is a very ‘benign’ poison.

The anti-vaxxers argue that it is a delayed action poison and we won’t see the effects for 10 or 20 years. That’s not very convincing support for the supposition that the vaccine was introduced to decimate the global population is it? Have you ever heard of a poison that doesn’t affect the population for 20 years? How would the conspirators test that poison? How would they know it would take 20 years to be effective? Did they start developing this poison 20 years ago? How did they keep this secret?

People claim there are too many questions surrounding the vaccine. Perhaps there are some but there are even more surrounding the ‘vaccine is a poison’ conspiracy theory.

Now don’t get me wrong, I truly believe the dems used the virus to discredit Trump and to get Biden elected. It’s a far reach from that to the theory that the virus was developed to do just that.


65 posted on 06/13/2021 12:21:59 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: House Atreides
If you think that the death of just one person amongst the hundreds of millions vaccinated is significant in respect of vaccination, then I’m sorry to say this but – you do not currently understand medicine, epidemiology, immunology, biology, or really science.

The author is probably correct from the point of view of statistics, but human beings aren't computers running statistical calculations. That's why people get more upset about the students who lost their lives in the shooting at Parkland High School than they do about the same number of people of the same age losing their lives due to violence and crime during the course of the same week. Statistically speaking, in terms of risk to a person, mass shootings are not at all significant.

But people aren't, thankfully, just statistics machines.

Kallman sounds like he was a good guy, it is sad that the Chinese Communist Party decided to let infected people leave Wuhan for other countries when they would not allow anyone to travel from Wuhan to other places in their own country.

66 posted on 06/13/2021 1:09:32 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
mRNA, or messenger RNA is a form of RNA which exists briefly when a new set of proteins is being fabricated by cells. The presence of the specific mRNA used in the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine causes cells exposed to it to temporarily make some extra proteins that have a shape similar to the shape of the spike protein that the COVID-19 virus has. The mRNA from the vaccine does not last longer than a couple of days. It does not kill the cell, but it does get used up, or in effect wear out.

The immune system sees the extra, unexpected proteins and makes antibodies to destroy them. Those antibodies clean up the spike proteins, and the immune system keeps a record of the shape of that protein so that any time in the future is sees the same shape it will destroy it.

That process is why both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines make people feel somewhat ill after they receive the vaccine.

For a normal person that immune response is over in a couple of days. After that period of time the mRNA from the vaccine is gone, the new proteins made by the mRNA are gone, and the only remaining change should be the shape to attack that is encoded in cells in the immune system just like the result of any other vaccine, or recovering from an illness.

67 posted on 06/13/2021 1:25:48 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: DugwayDuke
Now don’t get me wrong, I truly believe the dems used the virus to discredit Trump and to get Biden elected. It’s a far reach from that to the theory that the virus was developed to do just that.

You're putting words in my mouth.

It doesn't have to have been developed *specifically for that* in order to have been *used* for that.

68 posted on 06/13/2021 1:26:29 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: freeandfreezing

Thank you for that detailed reply.

Are the proteins created ejected from the cell? When antibodies destroy them, are they loose, in the system?

Again, thanks for your answers.


69 posted on 06/13/2021 1:34:20 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: House Atreides

You may want to read he article by Steve Kirsch “Should you get vaccinated?” He makes some very valid points. Not that I needed to read his article to convince me not to take this shot as there was enough evidence long before he wrote this article, pointed out by highly respect individuals within the medical community that these shots are not what they were made out to be and if anything could trigger a host of adverse reactions either now or some time in the future. Either way any other vaccine with only a fraction of adverse reactions caused by this so called vaccine would have been long pulled from the market.

As far as Wikipedia is concerned, I agree that they have a lot of useful information, however I quit supporting them when I realized that not only do they lean heavily to the left but also show quite a bit of bias to any ideas which do not conform to their point of view.


70 posted on 06/13/2021 2:14:34 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: Bulwyf
"It should of gone to the article, the link from the FR post."

The link to the Gateway Pundit article was already posted with the thread...twice: Once at the header, the second time at the bottom of the article extract. The link in the post went to the quoted text from the WordPress site. Both were linked. What's so hard to figure out about that?

71 posted on 06/13/2021 2:32:02 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: grey_whiskers

You used jabs and coof in the same sentence!
Look at you go.
Try to work in “Glowie” next time and you’ll get a Trifecta patch.


72 posted on 06/13/2021 2:49:49 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: grey_whiskers

The jab is working wonders for me and my spouse. We can now participate in all activities without fear of coming down with a serious attack of covid. 14 weeks after the jabs, not one single problem. No blood clots, no fevers, no pain. Booked a cruise in September which we can never do without the jabs.


73 posted on 06/13/2021 3:32:07 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
When the immune system recognizes a cell that it doesn't like it can use more than one technique to destroy it. I don't know which technique the immune system uses for the initial situation where some ordinary body cells have a suspicious (to the immune system) protein on their surface.

In general the immune system either attacks a cell from outside of it, or one of the immune system cells wraps itself around the unwanted cell or virus and attacks it chemically. Once that happens the proteins from the cell or virus are either destroyed, or contained in what is called a "residual body" that I imagine gets filtered out by the liver or some other bodily process. I don't know what happens specifically for the remnants of the cells from the vaccination phase, or any actual COVID-19 viruses that show up later. They get inactivated and destroyed, but I don't personally know exactly which process the immune system cells that destroy them use to clean up the wreckage.

Here is a not overly complex explanation of the process by which the immune system destroys things it doesn't like.

Antibodies are protein molecules which bind to the target and act as a target for the larger immune system cells to attack. Once an antibody is stuck to the protein it is meant to identify the antibody often disables the target at the molecular level, and then summons help. In some sense it is like someone tackling a criminal and simultaneously calling for an entire Marine platoon to show up and help.

You can read more about the whole process here.

The human body's immune system is a miraculous and remarkably complex system.

There are plenty of technical publications about the details of how the immune system reactions and the Moderna style vaccines work. Unfortunately many of them require quite a bit of knowledge of molecular biology to understand, more than I have been able to learn so far.

74 posted on 06/13/2021 3:36:12 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Thank you for a post with facts and substance instead of knee jerk opposition to the jabs without facts and conjecture of “future” potential problems. These people really think they are re-incarnation of Michel de Nostredame (Nostradamus). Which is flat out flat earther behavior by many here.


75 posted on 06/13/2021 3:37:39 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: entropy12

people who fear covid 19 got the shots...

people who don’t fear covid 19 refuse to get the shots...


76 posted on 06/13/2021 3:49:02 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: freeandfreezing

Thank you. That was very detailed, and sounds like the protein (or possibly more than one) remains with the cell and is pushed to the surface.

You did a great job explaining in a non-technical manner.

I have never understood fully, but I believe that a successful antibody protein that binds to the protein spike may be detected in the lymphatic system and is the cue that this is the correct antibody to generate large amounts of to fight the infection. When this is figured out, you have conferred immunity.


77 posted on 06/13/2021 3:55:29 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: entropy12

It’s all about YOU and your fweelings, isn’t it.


78 posted on 06/13/2021 4:10:57 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

There were no double blind clinic trials related to dosage.

A scary thing about these gene therapy based vaccines is that the RNA that causes healthy human cells to express the spike proteins can end up anywhere in the body. So when the vaccine RNA “infects” cells they could be anywhere.

The amount mRNA (or viral vector molecules) in the vaccines seems like it would make a difference as to how much the RNA spills over into non-muscular tissue. But there were not any trials to compare/evaluate dose levels.

Cells that express the spike protein should be destroyed by your immune system. They should not replicate, but there is plenty of evidence that the spike protein can get sheared off of cells that get the RNA from the vaccines. This enables the spike protein to move freely through the bloodstream causing harm.


79 posted on 06/13/2021 4:13:05 PM PDT by 13foxtrot
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To: Bulwyf

Close to two months ago, my covid paranoid sister received her second shot of Moderna.

Since receiving the jab, she has been bedridden. We have begged her to see a doctor, but she won’t listen. She’s terrified of going out in public in fear of contracting the virus.

I’m so incensed at Fauci, the fear-mongering media and the Branch Covidians for all the damage they have caused.


80 posted on 06/13/2021 4:16:38 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl
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