Hysterical BLM Agitators and Dishonest Media Forgot To Mention Part About Loaded Gun Allegedly In Front Seat By Army Lt. Nazario’s Leg

100percentfedup ^ | 04/12/2021 | Patty McMurray

[precisionshootist]

"The most dangerous police encounters with the public are traffic stops and domestic calls. An officer has no idea what they are walking into in those situations. The officer killed with a rifle during a traffic stop, which if I remember correctly was a “motorist assist” situation, did not see the driver as a threat until it was too late. Maybe he took the driver's explanation for why he was on the side of the road/highway at face value and let his guard down. The driver wasn't a threat until he was, which doesn't console his family. And, your statement “The police were never in danger. They (at least the one asshole) were way out of line.” is not logical. Was it possible that the driver had just stolen the vehicle and had armed accomplices in the back of the vehicle? The answer is yes. Until the driver has exited the vehicle and the officers can inspect it for others, they don't know. You are working off of “after the fact” facts. The officers did not, and could not, know that at the time of the encounter. You are allowed to have your opinion and obvious anti-cop bias, but I asked that you put yourself in the officers shoes in evaluating the encounter. You appear to be unable to do that. Sorry you are so biased."

With all due respect it's you sir that have the biased eyes.

"Was it possible that the driver had just stolen the vehicle and had armed accomplices in the back of the vehicle?"

This could be said about any and all interactions the police have with the public. Anything is possible at any moment but this does not justify putting the public in danger and it does not justify violent aggressive action by the police.

When watching this video at what point was the driver acting in anything other than a calm and cooperative manner even when the police approached the vehicle with guns drawn and shouting conflicting commands in a aggressive and violent manner? Where in the video was it apparent the driver was not attempting to resolve this encounter in a respectful manner?

Now ask yourself where in the video did the officers attempt to talk with the driver in a calm and respectful manner? Where in the video did the officers attempt to de escalate this traffic stop? Did they inform the driver he was being stopped for not displaying tags? If they did don't you think the driver would have said he just bought the car and the temp tag is in the window? Did the officers ask the driver why he did not immediately pull over? In which case the driver could have said he did not want to pull over in a dark area. Did the officers attempt in any way to asses this situation in anything other than a very dangerous violent aggressive manner? Where in the video is the officers attempt to de escalate?

You cite the recent murder of a police officer by a felon as justification for this type of behavior. This was a horrible crime but what you and others fail to talk about is the fact that tens of thousands of motorists are stopped every day who are no threat whatsoever yet many are treated in a similar manner. This is unacceptable and dangerous behavior that must be stopped. It's very clear in this instance had this driver at any point taken his hands out of view in an attempt to comply with getting out of the car he may have been killed by the first officer who was clearly not in control of his emotions.

[13foxtrot]

While there is an element of danger in all police/public encounters, here once the stop was made the officers had good lighting, could clearly see the drivers hands, were communicating with him (driver was not shouting ACAB, etc.)

It looks like the driver failed the attitude test and pissed off a bully cop.

The US Const. does not require citizens to pass an attitude test when encountering peace officers.

I am not anti-cop. However, for the job they are expected to do they are poorly trained and often poorly supervised. (See, recent negligent discharge in MN)

Cops should receive a lot more training. I wish they would rotate 3 months on patrol/field duty and 3 mos training. Similar to how Army Ranger battalions rotate thru deployment/training cycles.

But training is expensive and it consumes a lot manpower. So I doubt we will see much improvement in my lifetime anyway.

[brianl703]

Straight from the Virginia DMV:

Prospective Purchaser’s Trip Permit
...
the permit must be displayed in the vehicle window

[Knocker]

Although prior to the stop the cops could not have known about the gun, it may however have played an important role in subsequent events. The driver certainly thought he had reason to keep it handy, rather than secured in the trunk. Additionally, the presence of a gun in close proximity to the driver may explain why it took a mile to pull over (which is what alarmed the cops) and why the driver refused to exit his vehicle (the gun would have been visible).
Seems to me the presence of the gun goes a long way toward explaining the driver’s noncompliance.

[hank ernade]

I wonder if Lt. Valjean refuses to pull over for ambulances and firetrucks as well or just the dirty Blue Lighters?

It was regulation that wearing field duty uniforms off base was prohibited - guess that went south - and any officer refusing to pull over for a civilian emergency vehicle was certain to meet a military court for conduct unbecoming.

Since Congress has become a den of utter corruption it follows that it’s creatures (officers and gentlemen ptui ptui) should become the same.

As a rule I don’t get pulled over, but when I do see blue lights in my rearview I pull over - and the cop passes me.

That’s what normal humans do - but not Cophaters apparently.

[MayflowerMadam]

“when I do see blue lights in my rearview I pull over ...
That’s what normal humans do - but not Cophaters apparently.”

I’m definitely NOT a cophater. Alone, on my 30-mile round-trip drive over a desolate TN back road twice a week, there’s no way in hell I’d pull over for blue lights behind me. Whomever has the blue light (they’re not always cops), can slowly follow me to my destination town where I’ll pull over at the police station.

There are too many incidences of what you call “normal humans” who HAVE pulled over, and have wound up as victims of horrendous crimes.

[hank ernade]

1845
NYPD - first US police department.
Founded on the 1829 police act policies of Sir Robert (Bobby) Peel (Peelers).

Prior to that law was enforced by the King’s men (soldiers) if at all.

So what is it you cophaters want?

Law enforcement by the Army? (Lt. Valjean would like that I bet)
or
Bobbies and Peelers with clubs against an armed public?

- actually these cophaters want anarchy with no cops at all.

Like their soul brothers in Antifa and BLM.

Like hell fella

[hank ernade]

stop posting to me

[AppyPappy]

I was told that failure to report a firearm within reach could be considered concealment.

The point is not whether he had a firearm handy

The real point is that this optic was concealed from the public because it hurt the narrative

[hank ernade]

For those of you planning a sojourn to Florida, and feel that the law doesn’t apply to you-

If you see a flashing blue light behind you, simply ignore it and drive to a convenient police station and stop.

After they are through searching your vehicle, body cavities, and you have completed your 72 hour medical observation without being committed, you will be charged with violation of FS Chap. 316.126 (1)(a).

[precisionshootist]

I keep finding more of the video and I just saw the start of the video where the officer says to the driver "you're fixing to ride the lightning, son"

That's a flat out death threat and is a crime. This ex cop needs to be charged with multiple felonies. The actions of these cops are absolutely disgusting and indefensible.

It's getting awful quiet around here.

[oldvirginian]

Must be a new rule. One of my boys got a ticket four/five years ago for a temp tag in the window.

[brianl703]

No, it’s not a new rule.

The cop that gave your boy a ticket for a temp tag in the window was (probably still is) a moron.

[brianl703]

Also, other states use temp tags/permits displayed in the window and have for decades.

These are as valid in Virginia as they are in the state that they came from.

[Richard Axtell]

Is the stockade racist? Perhaps Nazario will find out, if he continues with his apparent attitude problem. No officer is going to put up with this kind of insubordination. If they do, they are not living up to their obligation and responsibility of rank. This is possibly the new reality in the Military, unfortunately.

[Night Hides Not]

I don't know about the Army, but in the Air Force you have to really screw up to not get promoted to first lieutenant after about a year. I foresee four years of second lieutenant in Nazario's future.

Nope, he'll get promoted on time. The Army would not dare holding his promotion back.

He's a Medical Service Corps officer. REMF

[Night Hides Not]

The Town of Windsor has a population of less than 3000. Their police department must consist of Deputy Dawgs...the state of Virginia has turned into a hellhole.

[gitmo]

Can they carry off the post?

[gitmo]

Hm...how do we solve this problem? One way: if you get stopped by law enforcement, COMPLY. Do not be a smart mouth. Do not resist. Do not swear at the officers. Simply COMPLY. It really is that easy.

Regardless of your skin color.

And if you have a weapon on you or with you, inform the policeman immediately.

[brianl703]

Virginia has been a hellhole for a while now.

Once upon a time, low taxes made it tolerable.