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July 18, 1863: Assault on Battery Wagner-Massachusetts 54th Regiment
YouTube ^ | July 20, 2020 | Me

Posted on 07/20/2020 5:14:08 AM PDT by C19fan

The 157th anniversary of the assault on Battery Wagner led by the Massachusetts 54th was two days ago. I must admit I was watching clips and the soundtrack from the movie to give me some hope during these troubled times.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: emancipation; war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfXzJwExWeA
1 posted on 07/20/2020 5:14:08 AM PDT by C19fan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfXzJwExWeA


2 posted on 07/20/2020 5:14:15 AM PDT by C19fan
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I liked it when the snarling Union soldier belted out, “Give ‘em Hell, 54!” as the regiment marched through the sands to sudden hurrahing, and death awaited at the other end of a beach.


3 posted on 07/20/2020 5:18:25 AM PDT by MarDav
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The movie had a lot of brief moments like that really packed a punch. One of my favorite was when the 54th is marching through the SC town and all the slave children run out to greet them.


4 posted on 07/20/2020 5:21:40 AM PDT by C19fan
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Their courage was great but the generals were fools and threw their lives away with frontal assaults against a fortified position. It seems that lesson was not learned until World War 1.


5 posted on 07/20/2020 5:34:07 AM PDT by captain_dave
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Their courage was great but the generals were fools and threw their lives away with frontal assaults against a fortified position. It seems that lesson was not learned until World War 1.

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If you had time for a siege, then you could capture with little to no casualties. But if a fort, city, or any position for that matter had to be taken on a timetable, then massed infantry assaults were the only way. There were no tanks, no bombers, and relatively primitive artillery.


6 posted on 07/20/2020 6:02:11 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: MarDav

The irony is that same soldier, earlier in the film, had been insulting the soldiers of the 54th Mass.


7 posted on 07/20/2020 6:15:36 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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I have this poster hanging in my basement. A friend was a movie theater manager when it came out and gave me the poster.


8 posted on 07/20/2020 6:20:43 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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Frontal assaults were futile against fortified positions. The American military payed a bitter price to learn that lesson. Sadly the European military learned nothing from the American Civil War which they derided as a “fight between two mobs”. The 9,000,000 dead between 1914-1945 was a testimony to that hubris and ignorance.


9 posted on 07/20/2020 6:24:07 AM PDT by allendale
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How many countless battles wasted lives on that same tactic?

I can think of at least 6 or 7 off the top of my head.

Suicidal to do such a thing and the Generals who could give a rip about the lives of the men they are entrusted to lead.


10 posted on 07/20/2020 6:38:06 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
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Yep. Lots of touching moments in that movie. I like the scene between Gould (Matthew Broderick) and Tripp (Denzel Washington) talking about the state of racial affairs:

“It stinks, I suppose.”
“Stinks bad...and we all covered up in it...I mean there ain’t nobody clean...be nice to get clean”
“How do we do that?”
“By ante up and kick in, sir.”

Earlier, Gould asked Tripp to carry the flag into battle. He demured. After Gould is shot in battle, an inspired Tripp “kicks in” and picks up the flag and briefly rallies the troops.


11 posted on 07/20/2020 6:47:45 AM PDT by MarDav
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Couple of things about this attack. The film shows the 54th attacking Fort Wagner north to south. In actuality, the attack was from south to north. Also, the site of Fort Wagner is not longer there. Much of Morris Island, the location of Fort Wagner, has been eroded away by the sea.
12 posted on 07/20/2020 6:49:41 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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I let that slide. Apparently they had to make that compromise to find a good beach location to shoot the scenes.


13 posted on 07/20/2020 7:50:13 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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MA 54th Monument






Vandalized. I am really getting tired of this!

14 posted on 07/20/2020 8:01:12 AM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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Their courage was great but the generals were fools and threw their lives away with frontal assaults against a fortified position. It seems that lesson was not learned until World War 1.

Don't fight the current war like the last war. Which is why we need to handle these riots differently, not police lines but small groups of non descript ninja LEO's work their way into the riots and whisk way the trouble makers before anyone even knows what hit them.

15 posted on 07/20/2020 8:05:06 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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Only way to get there now is by boat. Not too far away from Fort Sumter.

Here’s how modern Clymers honor them;

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/02/rioters-deface-glory-monument-to-black-civil-war-soldiers-boston-54th/


16 posted on 07/20/2020 8:09:06 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Free the TVs!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It was a waste of good men. Besides, the Union Army troops would end up laying siege and bombarded the fort for the next two months until September when the Confederates abandoned it.


17 posted on 07/20/2020 10:18:53 AM PDT by princeofdarkness
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