Posted on 07/01/2020 9:08:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Since the world was first introduced to the China coronavirus the situation became political. However, some people could see right through it.
We first reported on March 17, 2020, on the controversial Ethiopian politician and Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, and his irresponsible and criminal fear mongering. Tedros claimed in a press conference in early March that the fatality rate for the coronavirus was 3.4% — many multiples that of the fatality rate of the common flu which is estimated to be around 0.1%.
This egregiously false premise led to the greatest global panic in world history. We proved that this premise was incorrect then. Last week the CDC reported that at least 20 million Americans have contacted the coronavirus making the estimated mortality of the coronavirus near that of the common flu.
Despite data to the contrary, Dr’s Fauci and Birx continued to push shutting down the economy, sending kids home from school, burdening the family with extra work related to the children’s schoolwork, and shutting down companies and industries across the great nation.
These doctors told us that masks didn’t work and then that they did. Finally, a doctor had the guts to tell us that masks pose serious risks to healthy people and give them headaches. The long term implications are not yet known. Time and again the medical profession led Americans astray:
The scientists are all fake. pic.twitter.com/rPNpbujAUX
— Cernovich (@Cernovich) June 9, 2020
Today the number of deaths linked to the coronavirus is down to an all-time low since March:
Not only are deaths down but the ratio of deaths to new cases is way down:
Contrary to what you're told by media, blue checkmarks and other assorted figures, more cases do NOT mean more deaths. New deaths (7d ave) as a pct. of new cases (7d ave) with deaths having a 21-day lag due to reporting and hospital dwell time. April 1 through May 31. Boom. pic.twitter.com/pVVG0B4MMV
— Kyle Lamb (@kylamb8) June 22, 2020
Fatalities as a percent of new cases in Texas is way down. This indicates we are testing more and finding less severe cases – individuals who don’t even know they have it. One observation is that because more Americans are going back to work, more individuals are being tested, leading to more individuals identified with the coronavirus but having much less severe outcomes:
As we see cases rise, keep in mind that the meaning of a case as indicator changes when testing rates & criteria change.
We are now testing more & with less regard to whether symptomatic. So we are not just finding more of the iceberg but also less severe segments.
Hence: pic.twitter.com/r9b4zFyX8W
— Newman Nahas (@NahasNewman) June 21, 2020
We know now and we knew in March that the coronavirus was ignoring younger individuals and yet politicians shut down schools.
These actions burdened parents and stressed children, parents and teachers. The shutdowns prevented herd immunity in the United States.
The social implications to children and families have yet to measured.
In fact the seasonal flu kills 7 times more children than the coronavirus.
Despite clear evidence seasonal flu is more dangerous (~7X risk of death in US) to children than covid19 & lack of data face mask use prevents respiratory infections, CT is mandating face masks for school children this fall 1/2 https://t.co/pXn4tROJmf; https://t.co/bhfszhtTL3 pic.twitter.com/CUw9ZLp40P
— Andrew Bostom (@andrewbostom) June 26, 2020
We also knew that the China coronavirus targeted older adults (predominantly over the age of 70) who were already sick with some other morbidity. But in spite of this, states like New York sent sick individuals into these homes. States like Florida, with a larger population than New York, had tens of thousands of less deaths due to the coronavirus because these states protected the elderly.
43% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homeshttps://t.co/qy0pyNTqAd
— Benny (@bennyjohnson) June 28, 2020
If not for the deaths in nursing homes, this China coronavirus would be even more similar to the flu:
Without the nursing home spread, the IFR of C19 would be close to the seasonal flu in most places https://t.co/xz3Vd7uL9X
— Daniil Gorbatenko (@Daniilgor) June 22, 2020
Yep. I’ve been saying literally for over two months that the number of cases is not the number to watch. The number of deaths tells the actual story. The definition of “case” is way too loose. And the deaths are dropping like a rock.
Overdoing it actually trivializes a serious situation.
The news media are using a map coloring in states in their entirety to make it look like the entire country is in meltdown. A county-by-county map of the country paints a different picture. Yes, it is serious in some places, and should be taken seriously, but giving the impression the entire country is spiraling out of control is nonsensical and dangerous. Moreover, that was the point of the shutdowns - to buy time to prepare for this, get the needed equipment and capacity in place, etc. - not to keep things shut down indefinitely.
One false narrative after another from the media in this country is really wearing thin.
You, sir, are correct. The death count is what matters, but you didn’t drill down into the important detail.
1) The national daily death count is stabilizing at what appears to be about 500 deaths per day, and that is a result we get with all the social distancing stuff. The absurd spike from NYC was the source of decline. 500 looks like the number we’ll see long term with the various measures in place.
2) It’s very hard to get that 500 number computed. Counties shut down on weekends and try to catch up later. So there is all sorts of variance.
3) 2 million people over age 65 die of all causes in the US and that’s pre virus.
4) Essentially all of the 500 virus deaths per day are 65+.
5) So this virus, somewhat long term, with masks and distancing, can be expected to add (500 X 365 = ) 180K virus deaths/year out of 2 million pre virus. Our society will have to endure 9% increase in oldster deaths per year because of a new disease — and that’s with the measures now in place.
6) Old people won’t be able to spend their lifetime savings. This is a permanent slam to the economy unless we get a cure.
Item 3) is per year.
We are in agreement. I was just being brief. ;)
However, you missed one too: How many are REALLY CV19 deaths? :)
Yes sir, too much attribution is a risk. The excess deaths page of the CDC is the answer to that. They measure deaths of all causes. Death counts are up. Even if you extract NYC you see them up on the year. You also see them decline when lockdowns started.
We must be numerically pure, but we must not go overboard and imagine the disease is adding no deaths to the old folks. It is adding a lot of deaths to old folks. And dead rich old people is money not spent (estate tax and stuff).
I’m not seeing a rise in death counts for the US. I’m seeing a rise in a couple of states, but not by much. Remember that scare the MSM was trying to create over Memorial Day events. Nothing came of it.
I think we are being bamboozled. And the death graph make it clear, even if one is willing to believe ALL deaths really ARE CV19 deaths, this thing is over. The justification for the masks, distancing and lockdown part I mean.
I will always believe that global elitists who want to control the world and its people are pulling all the strings with their near unlimited amounts of money and far reaching influence over the world media, crooked politicians and other “bought” world leaders. Do we really want to live in a world controlled by the likes of George Soros and others like him? Here in America we have everything to lose if we don’t reset our priorities, live by the values and principles on which this country was founded, and reset our course for a future that brings out the best in all of us. This may sound simple, but the effort required to bring this about is nearly insurmountable. It could conceivably take generations to accomplish.
No the Excess Deaths page make it clear it’s real. Certainly there are no excess deaths in Nebraska, but there are in Florida. This would be true for any disease. If there are fewer to kill outside the dense population areas, you’ll get fewer deaths.
The overall death numbers have declined sharply as NY locked down. They now conform to what looks like the tail of a negative exponential. Probably stabilizing at 400-500 per day. Far, far lower than the March/April numbers, but they simply are not going to 0, and it’s not NY holding them up. It’s Calif and Florida and Texas. Calif alone had 100 deaths yesterday.
This was not a non event. There is a new disease. It kills people. It just doesn’t kill April New York levels. It kills far less, about 500/day in the US and a lot more globally.
You are assuming all these deaths are new and ignore the fact that many of these people were probably about to meet a Grim Reaper in the near future. How many were taken by the Covid Reaper instead of the Cancer Reaper or Heart disease Reaper? Covid may have accelerated their demise, the deaths do not contribute to the total death count 1 for 1. See the numbers below—it would be easy to imagine the covid death numbers being stolen from the other causes.
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:(2017)
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173
What makes you think the virus won’t go away by itself?
I agree that it is not a non event in some places. Just like the Swine flu.
But I don’t live in China, Spain, New Jersey or New York.
Everywhere else in North America it has been pretty much a non event from day one. Well, “non” in the same way the flu is.
And yes, of course it will always be with us.
BTW, I’ve never had a flu shot. Neither has my wife, who DID get the flu two years ago and almost died, but she didn’t. She was cared for by your’s truly for four weeks. Oddly, I never showed symptoms.We have two bonafide miraculous healings in our lives and I consider this one to be miraculous as well, though not a “provable” miraculous one. I think we experience miracles all the time and don’t even know they happened.
Smallpox virus didn’t go away by itself. HIV still hasn’t.
As for old people about to die anyway, life expectancy for an 80 year old is 88. Chop them off at 80, they lose 8. Life expectancy is subtle that way. The longer you live, the more disease events you have dodged and so you get years added beyond day-of-birth expectancy (78).
The CDC’s Excess Deaths page tells the tale. Big spikes in most states until lockdown. Then it plummets. Excess deaths are those beyond the average of the same month of prior years.
google excess deaths, CDC and scroll to update desktop button. Select weekly deaths by age
Very well said. I agree with you, and I don’t think it will happen. My pessimism about reversing the current, seemingly inevitable trajectory grows on a daily basis.
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