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The Confederate flag is finally gone at NASCAR races, and I won't miss it for a second
ESPN Opinion Piece ^ | June 13, 2020 | Ryan McGee

Posted on 06/13/2020 6:00:17 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ll tell
You now.

No it ain’t !!!


81 posted on 06/13/2020 11:35:29 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump pence II!)
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To: VeniVidiVici
"I've never heard of anyone pledging allegiance to the rebel flag."

I am guessing you are not from GA or not old enough to remember that in 1956 the Democrats changed our flag to incorporate the rebel flag. You may have missed those 45 years.

82 posted on 06/14/2020 5:38:48 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: dfwgator
Fast forward 20 years (if even that) “The US Flag is gone, I won’t miss it for a single second.”

Yep. It's next.

It's already happening to a degree at nfl games with the kneeling nonsense.

The nfl solution will ultimately be skip the National Anthem.

Then, it will be the presence of the flag still "offends" some.

Your 20 yr time frame is a generous one....but the prediction is spot on.

83 posted on 06/14/2020 5:39:48 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Cecily
"I may be wrong, but flying the confederate flag nowadays seems to signal that a person is a Southerner and proud to be one."

The GA Democrats in 1956 changed the state flag to the confederate flag as a way to give the finger to the Federal Government (Republicans) as they were trying to pass the civil rights legislation during the '50s.

Our strong Southern accent displays our Southern heritage better than a redneck flag from the 1800s.

To paraphrase the fine poets from Jacksonville, FL famously known as Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd, a southern man don't that around anyhow.

I will not defend anything the racist democrats did to carry on their racist beliefs. That includes defending the flag they waved as they fought to keep others enslaved.

I hope that helps.

84 posted on 06/14/2020 5:56:31 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: cherry

“...bury the history and you bury the reasons why...”

Democrats have a LOT of HISTORY to be ashamed of, for sure!


85 posted on 06/14/2020 6:09:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

You speak deep truth about the “ESPN effect.” Every sport they choose to bless with heavy coverage is systematically deconstructed and reimagined as a neutered, sterile and woke clone of the original. Sad fate for what used to be called sports.


86 posted on 06/14/2020 6:45:38 AM PDT by Pennsyltucky Boy (bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA P)
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To: vg0va3

Lynyrd Skynyrd are a good case in point since they displayed the confederate flag. Did the members of that band yearn for the confederacy, or was the flag only a totem of their Southernness? Southerners need a more benign totem that all can display, but I can’t think of one. Southern college football mascots sort of work.


87 posted on 06/14/2020 6:46:55 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: vg0va3

and 1st generation of German parents immigrated in 1950.

I have never understood the devotion to the rebel flag
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That’s because you have no roots here.


88 posted on 06/14/2020 6:49:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
"That’s because you have no roots here."

Thanks, but I was born here. Which makes me ask where would my roots be found if not in GA? If your logic is that my roots are in Germany, then should I support the Nazi flag to pay homage to those in my family that died?

Did you have a relative that fought or died in the civil war? And if so, what were they fighting for? State rights?

The best thing that happened to this nation was the South losing the war. Imagine if they had won and slavery was still accepted.

89 posted on 06/14/2020 10:10:57 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: vg0va3

Slavery in America would have died out anyway.
Islam still practices it.


90 posted on 06/14/2020 10:21:17 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
"Slavery in America would have died out anyway."

I think you mean slavery in the Confederate States of America?

What would have been the incentive for the Confederate States of America to abolish slavery if they fought and won a war to keep the specific institution?

Not sure what Islam has to do with the Nascar and the Rebel flag. But, OK.

91 posted on 06/14/2020 10:29:07 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: vg0va3

Most southerners did not own slaves.


92 posted on 06/14/2020 10:32:47 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yes, I know. Most people were dirt poor.

My wife’s family were sharecroppers in the late 1800s-1950s. But, they don’t hold any reverence for the Rebel flag. Why should anyone today?


93 posted on 06/14/2020 11:15:12 AM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Lurkinanloomin

It would have been better if the North and the South went their separate ways without fighting. It could have happened, but Lincoln forced the battle. It was the biggest mistake in American history. There is no reason to join in a pact that cannot then be walked away from. The North under the banner of “saving slaves” killed 100’s of thousands. Just like the US to go into another country to save lives, yet kill many. Iran, Vietnam, Afghanistan, we had to destroy the country to save it.


94 posted on 06/14/2020 4:43:12 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: Glad2bnuts

I don’t believe the North went to war to “save slaves.” They went to war to preserve the union.


95 posted on 06/14/2020 5:28:56 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: vg0va3

I don’t think I’ve pledged allegiance to ANY state flag


96 posted on 06/14/2020 5:59:06 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: VeniVidiVici

Good for you. However, I didn’t suggest anyone has pledged allegiance to a state flag.

I did use the words support and reverence. Do you support or hold the Rebel flag in reverence? If so, cool for you. Just wondering.


97 posted on 06/14/2020 6:10:28 PM PDT by vg0va3
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To: Cecily

That is why men or women beat on their spouse, to preserve their union?

How is that working out today? Going on 160 years and still no peace or unity.


98 posted on 06/14/2020 7:23:56 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: TexasM1A


99 posted on 06/16/2020 2:19:16 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler ("All men and women created by - go - you know, you know, the thing" Joe Biden)
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To: TexasM1A
A ‘’sport’’ that had it origins in bootleggers souping up old cars to out run government liquor tax revenuers on backwoods country roads. I never understood what the appeal is to watching cars going around in a circle.
100 posted on 06/18/2020 10:18:39 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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