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Never forgotten: Remains of over 200 Pearl Harbor sailors, Marines identified
Unto the Breach ^ | 3 November 2019 | Chris Carter

Posted on 11/03/2019 1:37:50 PM PST by fugazi

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To: fugazi

Not every man who was on the shot down bombers was killed and not all the bombers made it back with all crewmen alive.


21 posted on 11/03/2019 4:41:56 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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To: A Navy Vet

I definitely get your point. We could be a modern version of the British Empire, perhaps the subdued world would be more peaceful, but it might be much, much worse. For thousands of years might made right and borders ebbed and flowed based on how much power a state could project.

On the other hand, there is something to be terribly proud of considering we could quite easily control much of the globe, but after conquering, we just bury our fallen and rebuild. Yes, we had a pseudo-empire phase and the Indian Wars weren’t our best moment, but a nation that uses our military and naval forces for the benefit of others is pretty new to humans.


22 posted on 11/03/2019 4:53:17 PM PST by fugazi
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Quite right... I expanded on this exact point in an article a few months ago.


23 posted on 11/03/2019 4:55:16 PM PST by fugazi
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To: fugazi

I’m not suggesting an “Empire”, but Germany (western), Japan, and Italy could have been territories like Guam and Puerto Rico. Think of the increased projected power and the economic benefits to the US. Yes, I know the US is a protectorate of those nations, but if we owned them, think of the benefits. Recently, we do the same thing with Iraq and Aftganiscrap. Shed out youth’s blood and give their shit-holes back to them. I’m so over nation building.


24 posted on 11/03/2019 5:06:20 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: A Navy Vet

If there was a human simulator strategy game, wouldn’t it be absolutely fascinating to see how the American Empire would play out?


25 posted on 11/03/2019 5:33:08 PM PST by fugazi
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....Could not agree with you more.....! also love your tag line... as for me... U. S.Navy “boot camp” summer 1961...out in the fleet after that... I would say without any hesitation that virtually all if the guys I served with (yes...no female sailors at that time...) would have given their lives for their shipmates as we would have given ours for them...can’t say I can say that today... I guess the mark of our “progress” today is how many transgender sailors we have in our fleet... gee; how many transgenders do the Chinese navy have....?


26 posted on 11/03/2019 5:43:08 PM PST by TokarevM57
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To: fugazi

None of those sounds like a good way to go (not that there are any, but there are degrees of unpleasantness). I had heard some of the SS or Gestapo made a “sport” out of hunting downed airmen who survived the shoot-down.


27 posted on 11/03/2019 6:43:36 PM PST by chimera
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To: fugazi

Most dangerous combat assignment in WW2? Ball turret gunner on a B-17.


28 posted on 11/03/2019 9:36:56 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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I took a tour of the inside of a B-17 years ago. I never experienced anything so cramped and claustrophobic in my life. There wasn't anywhere you could stand up straight and if you weren't careful there were plenty of places to bang your head. How those men, kids really, wearing thick flight suits and parachutes did it is simply amazing.
29 posted on 11/03/2019 9:41:38 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: fugazi

My father was the highest ranking officer on the hospital ship, the Solace, that day. He was on deck throughout the entire attack. When it was over, he steered the ship round the harbor collecting the living and the dead.

They very soon ran out of room in the tiny morgue. According to my father. “We stacked the bodies in the always like cord wood.”

He never put in for any type of medal or aware because he “Was just doing his job.”


30 posted on 11/04/2019 4:12:10 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Opportunities multiply as they are seized.)
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Yes, I know the US is a protectorate of those nations, but if we owned them, think of the benefits. Recently, we do the same thing with Iraq and Aftganiscrap.

Look, we won France from the Germans fair and square, twice. Then we gave it back to the French. Next time Germany gets to KEEP them!

31 posted on 11/04/2019 11:36:19 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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