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Californians Thrown Curve Ball On Eve Of New Ammo Control
guns.com ^ | June 21, 2019 | Chris Eger

Posted on 06/22/2019 9:47:16 AM PDT by PROCON

California residents, facing a mandatory background check on ammunition sales starting in July, will need to bring an updated ID, passport or birth certificate with them to buy ammo. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)

With just over a week to go before a looming ammunition control law takes effect, California officials are backing a new requirement that could leave many unable to buy ammo.

Prop. 63, approved by voters in 2016 after an effort by now-Gov. Gavin Newsom, requires a background check be conducted on all sales of ammunition in the state. Set to go live on July 1, the California Department of Justice just over a week ago filed emergency regulations to require a federally compliant California driver license or ID card to legally buy ammo. The problem is, many in the state don’t currently have one of these “REAL ID” cards yet.

“Many Californians do not yet have the REAL ID, and because it’s not required for air travel until Oct. 1, 2020, they have not rushed to get this new license,” says pro-gun California Waterfowl in an alert. “While some have gotten it easily, many have had to wait a month or two for a DMV appointment to get this ID, so it’s unlikely every gun owner could get this ID in time for the July 1 start date of ammo background checks.”

Alternatively, residents who want to buy ammunition under the new requirements can use a passport or birth certificate to vouch for their status, but advocates point out that most people don’t carry such documentation with them on a trip to the local gun store to buy bullets.

“There is no justification for enacting this requirement this close to the implementation date of ammunition background checks, not when it would effectively treat tens of thousands of law-abiding Californians like criminals by preventing them from purchasing guns and ammunition,” said California Waterfowl.

Worse, on the same day the Prop. 63 rules become active, California’s ban on traditional hunting ammunition expands to all game during all seasons. This means that sportsmen who have legacy lead ammo and are looking to be compliant for the upcoming seasons could be refused such a purchase if they don’t have their papers in order.

Meanwhile, according to conservation statistics, in 1970, there were 763,671 hunting licenses sold in California, a figure that nosedived nearly 70 percent to 269,055 last year while the state’s overall population doubled in the same period.

Attorneys representing the California Rifle and Pistol Association and the National Rifle Association on Thursday submitted a letter to DOJ officials protesting the nature of the emergency regulations, arguing they conflict with federal and state law. The proposed emergency reg has an open public comment period that runs through June 21.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Politics
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammocontrol; banglist; california; realid
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The Cali Communists have taken fascism to a new level.
1 posted on 06/22/2019 9:47:16 AM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 06/22/2019 9:47:57 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
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To: PROCON

Can illegals get Real ID?


3 posted on 06/22/2019 9:52:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: PROCON

This is going to be tough on Hollywood. Everyone there owns a gun to either waste a freak (a hold over from the Manson days) or to protect his stash.


4 posted on 06/22/2019 9:52:12 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: PROCON

Buy
Lots
Of
Ammo
Today!
.
Silly Wabbbit!


5 posted on 06/22/2019 9:53:28 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Get Real.


6 posted on 06/22/2019 9:54:27 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: PROCON

We trust that there’s a lawsuit ready to file at the very first denial of sale due to this patently unconstitutional “law”. When will the damned communists learn that Americans will NOT be enslaved?!


7 posted on 06/22/2019 9:54:31 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Big Red Badger

This is how the Tyrants takeover. No guns, no ammo, no defense.


8 posted on 06/22/2019 9:54:54 AM PDT by abbastanza
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To: Pearls Before Swine

They do. All the time in California at least. All the time


9 posted on 06/22/2019 9:55:01 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: PROCON

A bureaucratic ammunition ban.


10 posted on 06/22/2019 9:56:28 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: PROCON

I’m going to guess that most gun owners there have purchased a lifetime supply before the new regs take effect.


11 posted on 06/22/2019 9:56:53 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PROCON
is that a STAR?
12 posted on 06/22/2019 9:58:13 AM PDT by Chode ( We’re America, Bitch!)
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To: PROCON
“While some have gotten it easily, many have had to wait a month or two for a DMV appointment to get this ID

Meawhile, in backward unenlightened West Virginia, stupid hillbillies manage to produce a Real ID compliant driver license with a simple visit to the DMV.

13 posted on 06/22/2019 9:58:28 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Big Red Badger

The point of the article is that YOU CAN’T buy ammo today unless you have the new, real ID.


14 posted on 06/22/2019 9:59:14 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
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To: PROCON

Just got some myself,,,
Paid cash,
Walked out.
.
Say What?


15 posted on 06/22/2019 10:00:55 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: PROCON

“California officials are backing a new requirement that could leave many unable to buy ammo.”

That’s the objective.
Interestingly, an illegal can get a DL but a citizen has to prove his identify.


16 posted on 06/22/2019 10:01:17 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: PROCON

Doesn’t that discriminate against illegal aliens?


17 posted on 06/22/2019 10:01:37 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: abbastanza

Yup,
We had a Great Run.


18 posted on 06/22/2019 10:05:34 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: PROCON
"Sportsmen...could be refused such a purchase if they don’t have their papers in order."

That's a chilling question: "Are your papers in order?"

It's a short jump to "Papers, please."

19 posted on 06/22/2019 10:05:43 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: PROCON

HOWEVER! ANY California hunting “store” or “ammo” STORE does have to comply with the latest CA socialist-confiscation order, doesn’t it?

See, ANY “gun shop” that is failing to check the driver’s license completely (like a liquor licensed store who fails a ID-trap sting operation loses its liquor license to the state “false flag” enforcers) DOES get thrown out of business by the State.


20 posted on 06/22/2019 10:08:36 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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